I need this whole lore.
We call KPOP stans toxic, but honestly, we don't have anything on the hardcore football fans. There have been MURDERS there
I have proposed that Kpop is actually a sport, than art, precisely because of this behaviour.
Thankfully there are very few opportunities of K-pop acts going one-to-one against each other, otherwise murder, that would be nothing.
sejeong and jihyo?
Cha Eunwoo, as well it seems.
As a certain someone would say, shes already asserting her influence on the newest generation
There was a recent survey of celebrities whom the kids (elementary & middle school) wanted to be friends with, and IU topped that survey.
Certain someone 😆..
He refuses to call IU by her stage name and now we are refusing to name him too..
"He who must not be named, who does not name IU"
Izone hit the sweet spot for project groups - between the early ones like IOI, which had too short stints to build a fandom despite great popularity and later ones tainted by vote manipulation and general fatigue of such groups.
That's about it.
Rest are just fan exaggerations of their imaginations.
The personality-talents of the idol, is not that important a factor for the success of group, as imagined by the fans.
Too many good candidates this year.
IDLE, IVE, LYW, NJ
- IDLE got the worst of it.
I would have have cut BTS, not because they are undeserving, but because they are at stage, where they need not do anything exceptional, yet will beat the rest on the numbers.
Same with IU.
These should not be considered for any Daesang, unless they do a proper promoted release, which PROOF wasn't.
Anyway, awards never satisfy everyone.
MMA is relatively better, MAMA is the master when it comes to blatant manipulations.
I haven't watched the clip, I want to listen to her rapping his parts
Pretty much every time she performed Eight, .. There are many clips, including the Golden Hour concert.
Whenever there is a feature song, artists have 2 options, sing the part themselves, or use the other artist's part as a part of the backing music/vocals.
IU takes the first option.
I like this acoustic version
Did she cut his parts or he simply didn't appear? That's two different things.
She sang his rap parts, but that is usual..IU herself has done so with G-Dragon, High 4 etc.
Whyknock just concocts conspiracy over nothing.. imaginary conflicts.
Among the Koreans Lee Jieun was the biggest star from around 2010 and it is only the companies' power which kept KPop from consumed by her
BTS did overtake IU for 2018-2021, but Mr. Bang's strange strategy of being neither here nor there gave her a chance to reclaim Korea, something which proved to be decisive. Once Korea fell back to IU, the people who were unhappy of BTS began to rise up
2018,19 and 20, yes BTS overtook IU in Korea. But 2021 was hers by any measure.
But it is only 2020 that counts, because IU had a late 2019 release and 2020 was the peak year of BTS.
Unfortunate for your conspiracy theories, instead of a clear war. We got 2 cooperations, Eight and I-Land.
Again Bang's fault, I suppose?
Isn't it true that a good majority of his listeners or fans are ahjummas or ahjussi? I would say that BTS or the rest of Kpop groups' listeners in SK are more spread out, although younger groups' audience is leaning in more towards the younger crowd.
It's just facts, y'know it's like saying that most people who listen to Morgan Wallen are old dudes with beard from South in America.
If you want to discuss seriously, then you would have to check the statistics of the age-gender spread of the each artist over time.
LYW is what 2-3 years into his career, his fandom has a majority of one age-gender group, then what was the same for BTS in a similar stage of the career?
But more important, is the context relevant to even mention the majority of the fandom, why should it matter to this discussion?
And so what if a fandom is dominated by one or other age-gender?
That's the reason for my sarcasm.
Your Korean aunties must've been listening to his album non-stop all day long, because his album is leading in gaon digital points. Actually, he has accumulated most points in gaon this year #2 IU then #3 BTS. He might even sweep in award shows this year because his Korean ahjummas are more dedicated in voting & streaming than any fandoms in SK.
LYW's Aunties beat BTS' teenage girls.. in the battle of Stereotyped fans..
J-U-N-G-K-O-O-K is already making allies for the great #revenge
He might be more interested in allying with evil I-U herself..
Might have already happened but for emotionally insecure ARMY.
lol, they got a strange relationship. She had a relationship with her son’s friend when they were either separated or in an open relationship. She denied it at first but eventually they had some kind of a discussion about it in front of the camera for her show. The red table I think it’s callled. It was entertaining because of how weird it was.
That's not even the most strange.. but that she is still besotted with the long dead Tupac and worse the daughter also thinks more of Tupac, than Will.
Weird is an understatement.
Kind of like Will Smith, global superstar, but wife at home prefers someone else...
Yet another KoreaPhobic rant, but missed 2 other surveys.
IU again is only second to YJS in the celebrity survey of SK. 2020 was the only year, BTS overtook her.
IU is also the most favoured by elementary and middle schoolers in SK, to be friendly with
BTS is the 3rd.
IU is so vanilla.
Actually Vanilla is the most consumed ice cream flavour in the world, so it is BTS that is vanilla.
IU would be Melona, Melon flavour very popular in SK, but not much elsewhere.
In 2021, IU was consumed more in Korea due to her album release while BTS only released 2 songs and 1 collab
Yet in 2022,BTS releasing more new songs and an anthology, IU has more digital points on Circle, than BTS.
It is a key to superstardom, that even with no recent releases, they continue to be a huge presence, IMO, both are so, but IU has been so for much longer.
The ascendancy of BTS did not dent her supremacy in SK has been well proven. The only time they went head to head was in 2017, and she did better in peaks, though DNA has better longevity.
Why are people fucking surprised again?
Time to reject this decision was 8 years ago not now
Most issues are like that, public only notices at the high point of exposure, not before or after.
For example, suspects are arrested after a horrible crime, everyone will notice. But very few actually follow along through the long legal process.
We move on to the next outrage.
So you say you’re ‘woke’, but the companies you work for, Apple, Amazon, Disney... If ISIS had a streaming service you would be calling your agents.”
- Ricky Gervais to Hollywood.
Kpop is no different.
Kpop fans also have proven that they are "success Stans" when it comes to causes too.
BLM is a cool issue to Stan.
But an Arab tyranny getting few thousand brown people killed, that's not a cool issue to Stan.