they have the physical sales, the digital streams in korea and global, it girl and after each comeback they just keep growing
remember when everyone said they wont be able to pass eleven success and then love dive happened? well peoplel said the same about Love Dive and After Like already passed the peaks of LD in everything it just left longevity now
what else IVE need to be considered a top group now aside of being from the big 3? because honestly they have all the receipts to back them up 
remember when everyone said they wont be able to pass eleven success and then love dive happened? well peoplel said the same about Love Dive and After Like already passed the pick of LD in everything it just left longevity now
Oh is it time to revive some threads
Oh is it time to revive some threads
thats why I made the thread too lazy for doing it 
I am not sure but they are the real 4th gen leaders for sure.
Frontrunner for leaders of 4th gen for sure
I think NJ will win the battle overall though specially global one but they are rookies that just debuted so I can't put them here now. IVE is already in their 3rd era and people were calling aespa 4th gen #1 GG with next level and Savage so I don't see why not the comparions
maybe IVE will have their GIRLS era comeback but at the moment they are clearly ahead of everyone else
A set up 💀 
Nope.
Oh is it time to revive some threads
thats why I made the thread too lazy for doing it
3 eras?
Queen Beth of England dies at 99, after being a fairly good queen for 70 years, and she may or may not get an 'era', but a K-pop group barely an year old and not even 10 songs, has 3 eras..
Kpop and it is exaggeration-on-steroids lingo...pfft..
But anyway, yes IVE is definitely a top group now.. it will take a bad scandal, horrible mess up etc. to topple them off the top tier.
Even if the competition does extremely well, they have achieved enough clout that they will stay so for sometime.
As to comparisons with 3rd gen - BTS/BP etc., we will have to see.. longevity takes time- literally.
At this point they are look more like how Twice was in 2016.
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Queen Beth of England dies at 99, after being a fairly good queen for 70 years, and she may or may not get an 'era', but a K-pop group barely an year old and not even 10 songs, has 3 eras..
Kpop and it is exaggeration-on-steroids lingo...pfft..
But anyway, yes IVE is definitely a top group now.. it will take a bad scandal, horrible mess up etc. to topple them of the top tier.
Even if the competition does extremely well, they have achieved enough clout that they will stay so for sometime.
As to comparisons with 3rd gen - BTS/BP etc., we will have to see.. longevity takes time- literally.
At this point they are look more like how Twice was in 2016.
Nothing to do with kpop but just wanted to say lizzie DEF getting her own era 2nd elizabethan era cant see james bond swearing fealty to that knob CHUCKSTER DA THIRD
OMG THE +10 jump 
but was the comparison needed?
well, looks like there are a slightly different concept of "era" for op and the others.
the era used by op is a short period of time that are usually used for each comeback/releases.
Like in those content/post saying "X is owning this 'songTitle' era", "Gaeul is slaying in Love Dive era"
yea something like that.
and well, the other seems like having a longer period of time for their "era" definition
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