What is wrong with being a company stan?

It’s weird and removes individual identity from groups.

It’s weird to blindly Stan groups just because they come from a company. Like,

People will stan groups that haven’t debuted yet since they are from a company, and it’s weird to Stan a group if you haven’t heard their music.

But sometimes you happen to gravitate to groups that come from a company. I don’t think that’s a problem if groups you Stan happen to come from a company. Thats not the same as staning a group because of the company they came from.

in my case I guess it happens when I stan mostly groups from a company but for me its not because of the company, it must be some kinda of coincidence or taste matter? like YG has more club bangers for example and as much as I like them they rarely tend to be a fav

idk if that makes sense but yeah

all in all theres nothing BAD in fact for supporting a company being an apologist or a crazy stan is different for me, at least some people love yg songs but dont think all yg does is right or everything from yg is flawless this is just a random example

It reduces groups to products and take their humanity and artistry away from them

Specially when people start stanning a group before they even know anything about them bc they will debut under a certain company

Its like waiting for the next iphone

Everything.

Cause Kpop is about music, it's not a sport.

The company stan defend the company and love the bands of the company before they even know their name, we saw that with NMIXX and their pre debut album sales when we still hadn't heard a single song, they act like supporters of a sports club.

These people aren't there for the music, they're only there for the charts and enjoy living through the success of a company's groups and soloist. Like a supporter of a club who wants to see his team win.

I don’t really get it, to put it lightly. Certain companies might have signature sounds or preferences, but if you *blindly* follow groups or artists from a company just because of that ( which, I think is different from just personally vibing with a certain kind of sound, or aesthetic, or lore), then it has the potential to reduce artists to just more of a consumable product and limits their creative freedom.

This is also a separate idea, btw, to consumers preferring the way that one company might manage affairs over another. I might *prefer* the idea of a company that encourages creative freedom or self-production, because those are values I enjoy personally, but if it came to me feeling the need to go hardcore stan on all the groups they manage, I would find that challenging.

I don't think liking the discography of multiple groups in the same Company is being a Company Stan. People overuse this term

the question isn't that they are a company stan per se but rather what do they do about it...

ie. do they constantly attack others for stanning a different group?

praise that company like the second coming of Jesus...

it's that behaviour that causes the problems not the mere fact that they are a company stan...

if you stan a company (or rather the groups ) within that company - great - just don't be a jerk about it...

and that's the thing with most of kpop (and life in general) don't be an asshole...

I think it is more directed at people that support and praise companies no matter what they do. Like just treating groups like products.

But I get what u mean of liking signature sounds that are produced from groups, that doesn’t mean people are blindly supporting all of the groups or company. idk if there is a different definition for that lol

What I don’t get is why some users get mad and acted like it’s an insult when we call them a company stan. It makes me want to call them that more.

There is actually nothing particular wrong with it. You can stan whatever whoever you want . But it’s been often used as an insult or at least it appears to be dropped in situations where it feels like shade. So I can see why some might feel some sort of resentment if they are labeled like that. It doesn’t seem to have positive connotation, so it makes it feel wrong.

There's nothing wrong with being a company stan. There's Apple stans, Marvel stans, Blizzard stans (well, not anymore ), all sorta stans.

If hordes of people can get excited and wait in line for hours for the new iPhone, purely based on the goodwill Apple has built up and those people like former Apple phones, then why couldn't it be the same for a K-pop company's groups?

So if someone's a company stan, sure, go for it.

There is something wrong with being called a company stan by antis and stans of other groups and companies, for the sole reason that they disagreed with or disliked your opinion (or you), or solely because you happen to have a badge or stan a group of a company that those antis and those stans of competing groups dislike.

It's one thing if you see and call yourself a company stan, it's a whole other thing if others are calling someone a company stan purely to shade and shut her/him up and even more so if it isn't even true: 1-2 badges of 1 company's groups or stanning 1-2 groups of 1 company doesn't make you a company stan.

Only haters, trolls and people aiming to discredit someone's opinion and 'win' a discussion think like that.

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some company stans dont even make any effort to hide how they view groups

#free_bts

? You think there are BH/HYBE stans that favor the company HYBE/Big Hit more so than BTS, to such extent that BTS need to be freed?

I totally understand the concept of being a company stan since most of them have their own distinctive styles that can make you gravitate towards them.

What I don't get is passionately defending everything their groups AND the higher-ups do + the people that are obsessed with the companies profit and are essentially company success stans,that's just weird.

There are two types of 'company stans' imo:

1. The one that just coincidentally likes majority of idols under one company. I have a friend who likes Yg artists but don't like yg themselves.

2. The one who will stan an idol/idols just because they're under a particular company, liking the company as well

Most people refer to two to actually be a company stan, but I've been called a Woollim stan just because I coincidentally like every Woollim group.

There is a problem with the second definition for me, mainly because it's a company. How can people like a company I don't get it.

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free them from company stans not the company lol

Ah lol, like that

I've always gravitated towards YG artists because they often release music I like and great stage presence but there are groups under YG I'm not into and I don't stan any of them just because they're under YG. I'll anticipate a new YG group more than, let's say, a new SM group but I'm not gonna stan them unless I like their debut+comeback.

What's wrong with stanning JYP's amazing visuals? Got a problem with that?

Yes, I like beautiful humans

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The war between the groups in the same company

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I know.

I love how people just throw that expression around even when somebody not a company stan just happens to like music from groups who is under the same company. Lol I have been called that before but why is it a crime to have a diverse taste in music? What’s wrong with me listening Txt as well as Enhypen?

Also how am I a company stan when I also love NCT and Exo’s music? Last time I checked they wasn’t Hybe groups.

I really have mixed feelings here because on one hand, I find it really annoying when it's used to stop a conversation, shut down an opinion or otherwise be used for malevolent shittery. But then I do look at my kpop choices and think "holy fuck, I am a SM stan." I prefer big vocals and R&B styles in any music, and that is very much the SM wheelhouse, so I'm not entirely surprised my songs are heavily SM. And I like a number of SM artists. Do I check out a new SM artist? Yes, because I assume there's going to be a vocal serve..

I also think that sometimes kpop fans get really butt hurt when you start talking about the business of kpop. It's a business and I it can be interesting to discuss the business aspects and trends but people get really spicy when you start talking about marketing or share of wallet or the portfolio mix and that their fave didn't just magically become successful when there is a lot of P&L there - lots of costs and expenses baked into everything, benefits or exposure that has been carefully crafted or maximized for them. Each of these companies does some dumb shit, but also does some brilliant shit. So sometimes when people are talking about the business of kpop and praising something smart a company did or a strategy or tactic, they also get accused of being a company stan (particularly if they happen to like a group from it.)

Hmmp. It started by stanning a specific grp then u get to like or anticipate other artists under the same label coz the interaction & collaboration are possible. It makes it easier for u to see the other grps good points. In my case, I used to hate Kpop until I started liking Enhypen. Then, I started liking BTS , SVT coz i find them charming. I started liking some of TxT songs as well like Anti Romantic. Somehow, it made me like Hybe & anticipate any new grps debuting under them. It doesnt mean I will stan all of them. It makes me curious so ill definitely check them out. But I dont buy any albums or merchs of any of them except Enhypen.

I think buying an album if u have the means or listening to their music most of the times signifies that u really stan the grp otherwise ur just a casual fan.

I dont see anything wrong w/ it . I guess , i am a loyal consumer. 😂I like iphone & will only use iphone , i also like marvel films & watched almost all of it. So yeah, i guess for kpop Idols since I like Enhypen a lot , i ended up liking most of the grps under Hybe. Kpop industry is also a product. It’s SK biggest export. Let’s not kid ourselves and think it’s all abt music taste. It’s the whole package that we like, each labels market their grps differently. I just happen to like Hybe products than the rest.

It's okay to like artists from the same company. But company stans are something different. First of all, sometimes they become fans of that group without even seeing the group or even listening to their songs because they came out of a certain company. Secondly, they do not hesitate to throw this group, which they say they are fans of, under the bus to defend the company. They prioritize the company, not their group, which is very strange to me.

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I think it's ok as long as the person doesn't defend all the dumb stuff that the company does

It's odd..