Without daesangs your legacy will be forgotten even if you had great digitals/Physicals/etc …true or false?

There are groups/singers who got daesangs whose legacy is very weak in memory, so daesangs aren't a guarantee of that either.

Imo, chart records, young singers continuing to cover your songs, and managing to still stay in the industry in old age are more important.

True

False, IMO. You can have impact in other ways.

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In my experience people tend to remember and cover the winners no?

I mean 2AM and Jewelry won daesangs and many kpop fans now will have no idea who they are. a daesang alone doesn't really guarantee anything.

Before BP most would say yes but after BP nope & anyways BP will definitely end up getting daesangs before they disband 🤔

no, having a hit song is more important. You know that song that when people are older, they will remember their days listening to the song when they were younger or how they heard the song on TV, cafes, karaoke often. The average person can't tell whether a group has a daesang or not

False, look at 2nd gen and how little groups people remember. 3rd gen i won't even comment about when the 2nd most talked and popular group is BP

since most non kma daesangs are rigged af anyways, idk. Also blackpink is the biggest girl group with no daesang so what does it say about not having a legacy

Even most kpop fans dont know who has won a daesang or some of the grps who had won a daesang so definitely not.

U can probably ask half of this forum who has won a daesang and the people wont even be able to be name half of them, and thats saying something

If korean award shows were more fair and more widely recognised this might have been different

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KMA is an arbitrary award and very biased for me any way why would you ever include that as not being rigged lol.

Hmm you do have a point there but I have personally seen so many other awards who have a clear criteria but then few awards are given to undeserving artists over the ones who check all the tickmarks.

Having daesang or grand prize it great but people will remember songs.. having said that, many hit songs are remembered by the general public but not the singers/idols..

Replay value of music is a greater legacy than both daesangs and sales.

True for the most part but there are always exceptions. If you can't win a daesang, you were most likely never that popular in the first place and most likely got overshadowed by other singers/groups.

If you don't have hit songs then your legacy will be forgotten

BP already debunked this idea

I used to think maybe they were important then blackpink happened. When they are able to dominate like this without having a single daesang it's quite telling

Among kpop fans maybe????? but outside of the niche no one even know what tf are daesangs

If you’re an international fan, they wouldn’t really care about dawsamgs. See, idk even how to spell it

False, if a group is big and influential people forget all about awards.

Not everything is misused only by a trophy or 2.

Not really. But a lot of people belittle the importance of a daesang. You can still be very successful without winning a daesang like Blackpink but that doesn't mean they are irrelevant like most kpop fans paint them to be. Just look at BTS, Twice and other idols reaction receiving daesang and you'll know they hold importance, at least to some idols if not all.

I guess if it was a group who had one big hit then sank into obscurity. Then having a daesang will ensure that people who love to go through lists will find them. Otherwise no. And outside of Korea obviously it's 100% meaningless.

Yes but Blackpink is an exception

disagree, the artists that win Daesangs usually win because they're super popular not the other way around. Does anyone doubt that people will remember Blackpink 20 years from now? Or Red Velvet? GOT7? Seventeen? NCT? None of them have ever won Daesangs from the big 3 award shows (MAMA/MMA/GDA) but clearly they've already made their mark more than some other groups that won in the past.

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disagree, the artists that win Daesangs usually win because they're super popular not the other way around. Does anyone doubt that people will remember Blackpink 20 years from now? Or Red Velvet? GOT7? Seventeen? NCT? None of them have ever won Daesangs from the big 3 award shows (MAMA/MMA/GDA) but clearly they've already made their mark more than some other groups that won in the past.

I definitely see a possibility that Red Velvet, Got7, Seventeen, and NCT being forgotten or somewhat forgotten 20 years from now.

Why am I not offended

Maybe because I knew what Kpop is before I knew what a daesang is . sorry korea !!

daesang doesn' have the same effect or impact on me as grammy or billboard hot 100 (personal feeling)

Depending on many factors, even those who take Daesang can be forgotten, when the generation changes, everything is usually forgotten. I think maybe if they produced a classic song, the group will be remembered if they have cult songs. Generally, kpop is forgotten because it is more fabricated. So I think those who have an artistic identity will be remembered in kpop.