Posts by vzal

The way I am always winning

One thing this entire thread has made clear is that y'all can't separate right from wrong. I never said KIOF didn't deserve the hate but that it was out of control which it is. If you can't understand something as simple as that, that's not really my problem and I am not going to waste any more time here.

Maybe I will come back to this thread at the end of the year. Let's see how the situation is then

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No it’s not the same thing. Hope this helps. Again you’re not giving a single example. Stop wasting everyone’s time.

I don't need to give any examples. If you actually cared about racist idols facing consequences, you would know of it.

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Well honey i mean… i can look in the mirror and say im rooting for classy ladies. Who are you

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I’m so glad this person so completely lost the argument and has absolutely nothing relevant to say.

So much so they’re literally asking if some actions are worse than others. Like duh they are. How is that even a question.

Of course some actions are worse than others lol.. But it's the same thing at the end of the day, racism. Are KIOF the first group or idols to be racist? No they aren't. Several idols have been racist before but they didn't receive even half of the hate KIOF got

Some are even repeat offenders but no. Y'all only care about morals when it comes to canceling a small group

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And who are these people who are not held accountable? I cant think of anything bigger than what KIOF did in the recent past. So stop making false equivalence.

So basically you will only hold ppl accountable if they did smth just as worse as KIOF, anything less than that is forgiveable and warrants a consequence-free career. Got it.

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The difference here being you hate new jeans while others hate racists. Alright.

No I don't. In fact, I don't care about them at all.

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They will start caring once they stop receiving that $$$ and thats why this was the correct consequence.

But they are not. Cuz y'all can't hold them accountable

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I’m just going to transparently say i HOPE their career is ruined.

Yall know better and fans who are like “i love KIOF regardless” like tell me your racist another way

And in classic Kpop stan fashion, I will also say that I HOPE NewJeans career is ruined forever and they NEVER get to make a comeback

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It’s not up to you to decide what’s enough. Hope this helps.

This was the correct thing to happen. Finally an actual real consequence. Now hopefully idols will think twice.

Sure it ain't. That's why I used I.

And sorry to break it to you but idols still won't care. Cuz the only group that is actually held accountable is a 1 y/o old with no backing while the big company idols stay unaffected, never bothering to even say sorry.

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The organization pulling out is completely valid and the consequence for their action. If they cannot be sensitive towards the people of the country they don’t need to perform in that country. It’s simple.

You don't get it, do you? Idgaf about them not performing at Kcon anymore. What angers me is the out of control hate that forced the organizers to make this decision.

I think they have done enough by apologizing twice. They have done more than the entire Kpop industry but if Black ppl don't want to forgive them that's totally fine with me but let's not act like that the outrage was coming from them and not from a loud minority on X aka ppl who never really cared about them and just want to see a rising group fail.

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kind reminder to people who are throwing f's here and all that

mods are watching.

Bart, the last time I got a warning was in 2020. Let them watch. I will consider it an achievement if I get another.

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If they’re so in demand in Korea then they don’t need USA so this decision and people commenting on it should be of no concern to you.

Why should it be of no concern to me when ppl have spent this month and the last bullying them? And it's because of this unreasonable hate that they pulled out from this event cuz ppl were sending them death threats. I hope you realize that this isn't okay. They don't need USA but that doesn't mean they shouldn't perform there at all even if the opportunity arises.

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I don't think you should tell users to F off just for saying they could possibly in trouble with non-asian markets. It's a valid concern when they had a lot of fans in those regions. Also, you don't know if users in this thread are/were fans of the group

I assume they will have SEA market and should be able to maintain Korean market. I am unsure if they were big in Japan and China, so maybe nothing to lose there. I think for a group you still want to have access to North America, Europe, and Latin America market and they might have lost that. That's a major concern for a group that was in position in being a top 5 5th gen group.

Their next comeback is the real test but I think they should be fine in SEA and Korea.

Lastly, the group had the advantage with 2 American members that are fluent in English, so losing that market is big imo.

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Do you think after being in Kpop for so many years I would still be naive enough to believe that these ppl have genuine concerns? Don't make me laugh. They were all just waiting for a moment to hate on KIOF and this is not just about that aespa stan who I know just wanted to say something just for the sake of saying something but about the entire Kpop community.

And yes their next comeback is the real test and people should wait for that if they want to make stupid statements like they ruined their careers.

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I won’t engage in arguments and I understand they’re your favs!

I wish them the best but they have ruined their own careers at least internationally unless their company put them up to it which I doubt they did. I hope they’ve learned from this

It was a mistake and they got the well deserved backlash. BUT, I need y'all non-fans to stop acting like they have ruined their careers cuz they are still in demand in SK and that's not going to change.

Also internationally ≠ USA. KIOF still have their Thai fans and their Asian fans in general dgaf about this controversy. They will be fine.

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Oh, the racist to the rescue

Fk off.

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They’ve ruined their own careers!

Shut the fk up

K-pop stans calling this the first successful cancellation when they fail to hold their more successful and influential faves accountable is so crazy. I wish the worst on everyone who has harassed KIOF, to the point the organizers decided to remove them from the line-up.

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