Biggest korean artists of all time

I dont know about the order, but otherwise your list is pretty accurate imo

BTS

BLACKPINK

IU

SNSD

BIG BANG

TWICE

EXO

Pretty accurate. Not sure for the order too. I would had H.O.T and/or G.O.D. They were biiiig late 90s.

Korea did a top 20 in no order in 2013:

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1. BTS

2. Seo Taiji and The Boys

3. Cho Yongpil

4. Yoo Jaeha

5. Psy

6. BoA

7. Big Bang

8. IU

9. TVXQ / SNSD / H.O.T

10. Blackpink

Disagree about IU being below Psy. Her physical sales are rising and her international presence is only growing, not to mention her hit songs. Psy had a good run from 2012-14 internationally, but didn’t grow physically or on streaming platforms outside of his two biggest hits. I’m aware that domestically, he had several solo hits before and after Gangnam Style. But his sales peaked in 2002, a year after he debuted. IU just had her best seller nearly 13 years into her career.

EXO should be tied with BB. BB has YT, Exo has Spotify. EXO destroys physically, BB destroys digitally. Both have good strengths and members with successful solo careers as well.

I was nowhere when 1st and 2nd gen were around, so to put IU, SNSD, BIGBANG, PSY, and TVXQ above Blackpink means they were insanely big in my opinion.

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I was nowhere when 1st and 2nd gen were around, so to put IU, SNSD, BIGBANG, PSY, and TVXQ above Blackpink means they were insanely big in my opinion.

They are extremely successful in their respective generation, part of Blackpink success was because of them,

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They are extremely successful in their respective generation, part of Blackpink success was because of them,

Yeah, without SNSD, TXVQ, HOT, Super Junior, SES, Fin.Kl, 2NE1, Baby Vox and more, no 3rd and 4th gen groups would exist. And without ASTRO, StayC, TWICE, Blackpink, BTS, NCT, Loona, IU and more, there will be no 5th and 6th gen groups.

Psy doesn’t deserve the 2nd place imo

BP should be higher, definitely top 3

How is PSY above IU and BB.. thats a no

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Yeah, without SNSD, TXVQ, HOT, Super Junior, SES, Fin.Kl, 2NE1, Baby Vox and more, no 3rd and 4th gen groups would exist. And without ASTRO, StayC, TWICE, Blackpink, BTS, NCT, Loona, IU and more, there will be no 5th and 6th gen groups.

I think this type of thinking is eh

And without ASTRO, StayC, TWICE, Blackpink, BTS, NCT, Loona, IU and more, there will be no 5th and 6th gen groups.

Clearly there would.

BTS

BLACKPINK

Bigbang

TWICE

SNSD/EXO

IU

TVXQ

Others

BP deserves a much higher placement than what y'all give them. And as usual underestimating TWICE.

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They are extremely successful in their respective generation, part of Blackpink success was because of them,

Korean success maybe international success wasnt due to them.

Those groups didnt make it so BP is automatically successful all they did was promote IDOL culture.

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no, i definitely agree with psy being above iu
the rankings to me would be
bts
psy
bp
iu
simply because of reach. while iu may dominate the korean market, she's not nearly big enough outside to outrank bp/bts/psy. and psy has had the biggest hit of all of kpop. they're only below bts because bts has had consistant hits that were just slightly smaller than gangnam style. im pretty sure gangnam style + gentleman's views added up will be more than all of iu's videos because those two add to 5.6B views-

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PSY reach was for literally only two songs he doesnt deserve to be above others lmfao.

youtube views is not the be all and end all.

Its clearly talking about Korea where PSY wouldnt even be top 10.

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Korean success maybe international success was due to them.

Those groups didnt make it so BP is automatically successful all they did was promote IDOL culture.

but still without them to make kpop well-known outside of Korea, BP would not be as popular as today. U seem to underestimate other senior groups so much

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where does it say in korea?

if in korea then psy will be lower, but since the op doesnt say that psy is definitely number 2

in a global scale psy is much much much much bigger than iu

IU is literally the biggest hit maker that Korea witnessed, its been 13 years and she still get pak left and right, she has a successful drama, she sells well.

A plain list is never possible, didn't Melon get a bunch of experts do that for songs recently.

Popularity is not always impact.

For example, Seo Taiji is effectively the most impactful, but the reach was limited.

Gangnam Style is probably still the most listened to Kpop song in the world of all time, but a large section of listeners won't known Psy as a Kpop act or even aware that it was a Kpop song

Pre globalisation, pre digital boom, social media is an entire different world.

And then what is popular in Korea vs. what is popular in the world, need not always overlap.

So most of these rankings effectively fail.

At best people can agree upon the top 20 or so, across all these factors.

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EXO should be tied with BB. BB has YT, Exo has Spotify. EXO destroys physically, BB destroys digitally. Both have good strengths and members with successful solo careers as well.

is spotify good metric? it has became only very popular since 2015, and bigbang's japanese discography and some songs weren't on spotify until like 2018, 2019, and they have clearly less songs since half of their career was on hiatus, and what about touring?

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but still without them to make kpop well-known outside of Korea, BP would not be as popular as today. U seem to underestimate other senior groups so much

Only big bang and SNSD really started promoting Korea international but they are not the reason BP is big.

Nah I dont underestimate you over estimate old groups.

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Disagree about IU being below Psy. Her physical sales are rising and her international presence is only growing, not to mention her hit songs. Psy had a good run from 2012-14 internationally, but didn’t grow physically or on streaming platforms outside of his two biggest hits. I’m aware that domestically, he had several solo hits before and after Gangnam Style. But his sales peaked in 2002, a year after he debuted. IU just had her best seller nearly 13 years into her career.

EXO should be tied with BB. BB has YT, Exo has Spotify. EXO destroys physically, BB destroys digitally. Both have good strengths and members with successful solo careers as well.

Exo wouldnt be tied with BB that is a fucking insult towards BB.

Exo physical sales is nothing special now days and the gap overall I dont think is that big compared to the gap digitally. You ignored touring I guess? Bring that it and it smashes anything Exo acomplished physically.

All Exo has is album sales

I'm just here to make sure that nobody is disputing the top 2 spots.

1. Seo taji and boys (the creators of kpop)

2. Bangtan boys (the most influential kpop group)

I mean let's be real, there are many metrics to consider so we would never get a consensus for an objective top 10, but I would say the ones in op deserve to be named, maybe adding a few more here and there or swaping places but yeah...

BTS

BLACKPINK

BIG BANG

PSY

SNSD

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Only big bang and SNSD really started promoting Korea international but they are not the reason BP is big.

Nah I dont underestimate you over estimate old groups.

Well, been a kpop fan since 2008 when Kpop started with nothing and then Wonder girls start to hit it big in the US with Nobody debuting at No. 79 on BB100. Boa took over S.Korea and Japan and also became the FIRST kpop artist to chart BB 200. and since then 2011 is when KPOP started to hit internationally (major artists are able to chart BB200), oh did i forgot to mention how massive Gangnam style and Gentlemen are, well i dont need to talk about that. I am too lazy to write a whole ass paragraph since there is so much to talk about old groups influences on the international scene. So yeah they DID that when BP didnt even exist yet. and U think they DIDNT make it.. In case u cant read, i didnt say these groups are the reason BP is big. However, it is them who created the attention and make people interested in KPOP, Oh wait you are the ForgttenSoul, how could i forget.

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Well, been a kpop fan since 2008 when Kpop started with nothing and then Wonder girls start to hit it big in the US with Nobody debuting at No. 79 on BB100. Boa took over S.Korea and Japan and also became the FIRST kpop artist to chart BB 200. and since then 2011 is when KPOP started to hit internationally (major artists are able to chart BB200), oh did i forgot to mention how massive Gangnam style and Gentlemen are, well i dont need to talk about that. I am too lazy to write a whole ass paragraph since there is so much to talk about old groups influences on the international scene. So yeah they DID that when BP didnt even exist yet. and U think they DIDNT make it.. In case u cant read, i didnt say these groups are the reason BP is big. However, it is them who created the attention and make people interested in KPOP, Oh wait you are the ForgttenSoul, how could i forget.

Hiting big in the US? Means charting with one song?

Nothing they did really made KPOP relevant at all. Its was a very small % of people who knew them . SNSD/SJ/BB/2NE1 really blew KPOP open internationally everyone else was asia focused.

Groups promoted them selfs. The groups that really pushed KPOP are BTS and BP compared to everyone else its eclipses everything.

I'm not sure about the order. All I know is bts is #1

have to say shindong

No competition

Dude is massive

Bong Joon-ho

Park Chan-wook

Song Kang-ho

Choi Min-sik

Lee Byung-hun

Lee Young-ae

...

Something like that.

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Exo wouldnt be tied with BB that is a fucking insult towards BB.

Exo physical sales is nothing special now days and the gap overall I dont think is that big compared to the gap digitally. You ignored touring I guess? Bring that it and it smashes anything Exo acomplished physically.

All Exo has is album sales

No it's actually the opposite

There is a bigger gap in physicals

1. BTS — 31,435,304 copies sold
2. EXO — 13,199,097 copies sold
3. SEVENTEEN — 8,091,887 copies sold
4. TWICE — 6,485,872 copies sold
5. NCT DREAM — 5,292,893 copies sold
6. GOT7 — 4,022,133 copies sold
7. SUPER JUNIOR — 3,878,121 copies sold
8. Wanna One — 3,624,584 copies sold
9. Stray Kids — 3,590,563 copies sold
10. NCT — 3,531,065 copies sold
11. NCT 127 — 3,211,291 copies sold
12. TXT 3,106,120 copies sold
13. BLACKPINK — 2,667,413 copies sold
14. Baekhyun — 2,658,097 copies sold
15. MONSTA X — 2,587,441 copies sold
16. SHINee — 2,548,086 copies sold
17. Girls' Generation — 2,363,982 copies sold
18. IZ*ONE — 2,123,434 copies sold
19. Red Velvet — 1,905,549 copies sold
20. THE BOYZ — 1,871,572 copies sold
21. ATEEZ — 1,807,702 copies sold
22. TVXQ! — 1,709,583 copies sold
23. BIGBANG — 1,668,550 copies sold

Exo's digitals are actually among the best as well. But the thing is overall the album does very well not just singles

There wasnt a big gap like you claim

And you are underestimating Exo's touring powerpasted-from-clipboard.png

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2018/09/which-k-pop-groups-earned-the-most-money-from-their-worldwide-concert-tours-since-2010

I am not even following charts so I couldnt find older bb data these are what found from a quick twitter seearch. Of course you are free to dislike Exo but well these are the truths

Not me ending up writing article eye-

But some people really be thinking exo only had good physicals

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but still without them to make kpop well-known outside of Korea, BP would not be as popular as today. U seem to underestimate other senior groups so much

Tbh, third gen was the one make Kpop popular internationally and bigger like today. Nobody underestimate senior groups, they spread the wave in China and Japan and everyone know that.

But you clearly belittle with the achievement of Bts and Bp who expanding kpop to become more mainstream for almost every part of the world. Tbh, these groups can be as popular as they're now even without the senior groups. Bts already prove that. You also forget, most of them only make a way for their juniors which is why big 3 used to dominate everything compare to now.

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Not me ending up writing article eye-

But some people really be thinking exo only had good physicals

I mean It's ok to dislike a group but to use wrong information and false claims just to downplay them is just sad, but what did you expect from akp

I'm not even surprised anymore, I bet that person will still claim that the reply you used is not true, you know how it is every time rain. Don't use your time for people who won't appreciate it and rather say what they want to believe

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A plain list is never possible, didn't Melon get a bunch of experts do that for songs recently.

Popularity is not always impact.

For example, Seo Taiji is effectively the most impactful, but the reach was limited.

Gangnam Style is probably still the most listened to Kpop song in the world of all time, but a large section of listeners won't known Psy as a Kpop act or even aware that it was a Kpop song

Pre globalisation, pre digital boom, social media is an entire different world.

And then what is popular in Korea vs. what is popular in the world, need not always overlap.

So most of these rankings effectively fail.

At best people can agree upon the top 20 or so, across all these factors.

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Agreed

You can't really rank them imo, being pioneers vs international achievements vs Japanese achievements vs SEA vs trends and so many things that can be argued by people

You can maybe put them in tiers that's better

BTS

Blackpink

SNSD

Twice