they’re not shielding racist people, the rules say that you have to post your thread in the right section
Give up, this user accused me of ignoring racism because I asked two questions lmao
A teen is sensible enough
Stop excusing casual racism
And 2nd its an issue and kpop artist face through racism. So it fits
wow wow calm down. I just asked two questions okay. Also this is something that fits into other sections, just saying jesus
Okay i need context: how old was she and how is kpop related?
How about if they want to but can’t due to the supply problems?
I love that bgm. That’s tlc fav bgm of every reality tv show
The way you linked those sites looks like you want us to get some viruses
Jesus christ a double post
What people do for money is astonishing
I love it, i also really like the bside Gameboy
I wasn’t talking about just production. But overall album quality, concepts, performances, and skill.
Also I feel like so many western artist know exactly what they want and what sound they’re going for, so of course it would be more easier to produce for kpop who for the most part try to stand out but for me in the end it all ends up being similar.
I feel like western pop acts are more diverse and well rounded.
I wouldn’t say that still. It depends on what you are looking for while listening or following an
artist. You see a lot of concepts in K-Pop that you would not see in the Western industry and vice-versa. It’s like comparing apples and pears. It always ends with your preferences. As someone who mainly listens to non-kpop and non-american pop or chart music (I still know everything that is going on) I wouldn’t call neither of them more or less creative in terms of performance, skills, quality or concepts. Each side has each characteristics.
there is a very specific approach into the composition/production requirements for the american mainstream pop though nowadays. SImple chord progressions, specific simple melodic patterns (just listen how many songs repeat the same note a million times in the melody), lack of key changes, very specific drum machine and bass sounds. The moment you move to more indie pop, ethereal pop and so on this does not apply though. And then there is bruno mars and jacob collier...
On the other hand, kpop because its main influence traditionally is the 90s/00s pop sound and jpop they don't have problems with more complex compositions. They actually need it, since they have to cram anything from 5 to 12 people in one song, and keep the listener interested. This is easier when you have 3, 4 or even 5 different sections/mini songs then a typical song structure. It is Good Vibrations or Bohemian Rhapsody taken to their pop extreme. But, there are still limitations, especially in the presentation and the lyrical content (kpop is after all made under korean laws), but even in the sonority (a song like the eurovision 2021 winning song would never fly in kpop as it is too heavy, regardless of presentation or lyrical content of course).
I still think american production (mixing, mastering) is better than kpop. I always feel there is a frequency gap in the kpop mixes, as if they used to much EQ in the lower-mid to lower regions, too much eq in the high mid, too much clashes between sonic elements (especially if there are synths and autotuned vocals with similar timbre at the same time) while i feel the western mixes are fuller in frequencies breath a bit more (less sonic clashes).
Good answer! I actually agree with a lot. Although I prefer the mixing of K-pop songs more but I get where you are coming from. The mixing quality is very different and it is depending on the entertainment company. For example: while I think that Bighit/Hybe really tries to use the Western way (SM sometimes something in between) JYP has a really weird way of mixing imo that makes the songs sound flat.
The creative in the west(America) just exceeds that of kpop.
I wouldn’t say that. A lot of producer say that it is easier to producer for kpop since you are more free to use anything while most pop artists in the west do not want to go overboard with the producing style. Acts like Red Velvet or Itzy are a good example.
Kpop has better dance while most background dancer dance so much compared to the artist while performing that it is sometimes uncomfortable to look at
What I do not get is how one member said that they weren’t close and now she says this. Also Hyunjoo said that she was sick a lot of times but now they say she was lazy. Hyunjoo never seemed to not know the dance so that means she practiced a lot as well.
Chaewon said that she has proof so let’s see. I hope it isn’t a proof like the one from Naeun’s sister
April Chaewon’s post on fancafe
“Hello, this is April’s Chaewon. After a long debate, I decided to write this post in order to unveil with exact detail that the claims made by Hyunjoo’s side are not true. It may be a long post, but please read until the end.
While preparing for our debut, Hyunjoo often said that she did not feel well or that her body hurt here and there, and refused to practice. Even when there were mandatory lessons, she made attempts not to attend, and our managers went to great lengths to care for Hyunjoo; however, she continued to skip practices.
Despite so, as the older member, I did my best to care for Hyunjoo, and I also relied on Hyunjoo even more than she may have relied on my care, so I thought that she was a very good friend of mine. But as soon as we debuted, events that we all worried would happen, happened.
Soon after our debut on August 25, 2015, we were headed for the hair and makeup shop before our scheduled ‘Music Bank’ performance when we learned that Hyunjoo had disappeared. We had no idea why Hyunjoo was nowhere to be found, and we were concerned that this would negatively affect us in some way on such an important schedule. We had to run through our dry rehearsal and camera rehearsal without Hyunjoo, and we anxiously waited for Hyunjoo to return. Right before the live stage, Hyunjoo entered our waiting room saying, ‘I still need to go on stage~’. Because of this, we were instantly labeled as a mannerless girl group who skipped dry rehearsals not even one week into our debut. Hyunjoo’s actions were very unexpected and selfish, and we were hurt by her actions which put herself before our team; however, I thought that if I went on caring for Hyunjoo with more attention, things would get better.
However, Hyunjoo continued to skip our practices. It’s true that we were tired of Hyunjoo skipping practices as members who strongly felt that everyone needed to be there, putting in effort during practice in order to put on a good stage; however, we never excluded Hyunjoo in any way, as claimed.
None of the April members were allowed to have personal mobile phones until 2017. But Hyunjoo was the only exception, and she also had special permission to attend schedules while living at her family home. Many of you may say that these were the reasons why we ‘bullied’ Hyunjoo, but that is not true. I tried my best to care for Hyunjoo and to protect April. I always hung out with Hyunjoo, so any claims that Hyunjoo was excluded or bullied just do not make sense to me.
I did my very best to understand Hyunjoo and to match her personality, and she always told me that she felt thankful toward me. So now, I want to ask her why she suddenly turned me into someone who ‘always egged her on’ and ‘gave her a hard time’, and ‘betrayed her’. I want to ask her why she went around telling people such unbelievable lies.
Because I felt so wrongly accused when this issue first came to light, I just kept thinking that I wanted to die.
But now, I would like to make things right again. I’ve endured as much as I could, and I just want her to know that the kind of attention and popularity that you earned from such an unjust method will never last you. The truth will be revealed.
After seeing the post made by Hyunjoo’s side, I have gone through the few electronic devices that I had during my debut days, in order to recover records of my therapy sessions, the messages that I exchanged with my parents, and any other form of evidence I could gather. I plan to reveal each of these forms of evidence accordingly and explain clearly that the accusations raised against me are entirely false.
Because I want to prove that I am innocent, I will no longer remain silent. Up until now, I believed that if I waited, the truth would be revealed, but I cannot wait longer.” cr
original post: theqoo
1. I support Hyunjoo
2. Stop lying
3. Hyunjoo isn’t the daughter of the company president, how could she act like that when she was just a rookie at the time? And I don’t understand why the company let her do that? I bet Chaewon is lying
4. There’s a lot of evidence that Hyunjoo was bullied, stop lying
5. I watched Hyunjoo’s stage videos. She worked really hard and didn’t do any dance wrong..
6. Chaewon-ah, why are you lying?
7. I feel so sorry for Hyunjoo ㅜㅜㅜㅜ They seem to have no conscience
8. Then please provide proof!
9. Hyunjoo fighting
10. Do you think netizens are stupid?
But would the laziness of someone like Rihanna be tolerated from a KPop label?
What a weird question? I don’t get how that means that a whole industry is doing the bare minimum. Rihanna isn’t the industry.
I wouldn’t generalize a lot of artists. There are also some kpop artists who can only do the bare minimum according to the examples that you wrote. Also the marketing and target audience are different and thus their expectations. Where pop fans need certain things kpop fans deem other things more important. Some K-pop fans always need to drag other Western artists instead of minding their business