I will never understand the use of props over outdoors in MVs

  • No matter how big the budget for a prop, I have yet to see one that looks better than the actual place they are trying to recreate.


    Outdoors not only looks a lot more beautiful, but it is also a lot easier to shoot and costs less. I just don't understand why they don't stick with it instead of creating ugly props. It is starting to annoy me because it has become more and more trendy. I fear there won't be outdoor/real places MVs anymore.

    I have noticed it especially with groups that have a budget. It's funny because smaller budget groups' MVs started to look better because of that.

  • Harder to control the weather, lighting, etc. Which makes editing video a lot harder i think.


    Also, you have access to everything you need to produce a high budget video in a controlled facility, you may not have that in a shoot outdoors. And if the weather is bad, it could be a pain to reschedule.

  • Harder to control the weather, lighting, etc. Which makes editing video a lot harder i think.


    Also, you have access to everything you need to produce a high budget video in a controlled facility, you may not have that in a shoot outdoors. And if the weather is bad, it could be a pain to reschedule.

    Did the weather change a lot in the last 3 years? because it has been a normal thing to do in the past for most groups. Plus now when a "nugu" group or an old artist with less budget shoots an MV, they go the outdoor route and it looks a lot better IMO.

  • In addition to weather and lighting concerns, if you're filming in a popular and populated place it's hard to control the amount of people around. It would be very easy for something about the song or MV to be leaked by a random onlooker.

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  • Exactly, the only MV of 2021 that was impressive- FIRST by EVERGLOW. I know in the beginning shot they might have used a green screen. But the rest shoot was probably done on real sets.

    I agree. I would add Twice MV too. It looked refreshing for a summer song. IDK what they used exactly but if it's good enough to fool me then it's great. Sometimes I like greenscreen but I loathe props. It somehow reminds me of school's science projects lol. I really really hope SM doesn't pull the umbah umbah set for RV's new summer song :pepe-sad: . But I am dreaming...I know they will. They seem too fond of it even for Aespa (ngl it worked great for BM tho).

  • A lot of it has to do with bad vfx. Dynamite music video was filmed indoors (due to weather) and you can’t teally even tell.

    Not really. Dynamite was so obvious. The supposedly "indoor" scenes were fine but the scenes where it was supposed to look outdoor looked bad. Another example why cigi and props can never look better than real outdoors. Their old MVs when they were small looked better visually like Run and I need U (I am sure there are other mvs too but this is the first that came to my mind) because they were real outdoor scenes.

  • I agree. I would add Twice MV too. It looked refreshing for a summer song. IDK what they used exactly but if it's good enough to fool me then it's great. Sometimes I like greenscreen but I loathe props. It somehow reminds me of school's science projects lol. I really really hope SM doesn't pull the umbah umbah set for RV's new summer song :pepe-sad: . But I am dreaming...I know they will. They seem too fond of it even for Aespa (ngl it worked great for BM tho).

    Twice's MV was really innovative. It really matched the choreo and lyrics. Companies should definitely learn from Twice's creative team.

  • No matter how big the budget for a prop, I have yet to see one that looks better than the actual place they are trying to recreate.


    Outdoors not only looks a lot more beautiful, but it is also a lot easier to shoot and costs less. I just don't understand why they don't stick with it instead of creating ugly props. It is starting to annoy me because it has become more and more trendy. I fear there won't be outdoor/real places MVs anymore.

    I have noticed it especially with groups that have a budget. It's funny because smaller budget groups' MVs started to look better because of that.

    For a professional production, it not necessarily less expensive or complicated to shoot outdoors. You have to obtain permits for the shooting location, (potentially) pay location fees to the location, ensure that you are only shooting during specific amounts of time, close off the location (so additional security costs) as well as managing timing and lighting concerns. Additionally, you will need to bring all the other bells and whistles to the location, like craft services (food and drinks), hair, makeup and costumes. This also requires additional space and support. And that's before you start talking about issues with sasesangs. (There may be less of a permit need in Korea, I don't know, tbf, but the other elements are still issues on any production.)


    If you are shooting within the confines of a studio, many of these concerns about where things go or where the additional support elements are become easier to manage because there is either room within the facility or within the grounds of the facility for these types of elements. Additionally, because you are not dependent on natural light, you are not working on a finite amount of time when your light (or night) is just right for shooting or sensitivities to say making a noise on a nighttime shoot. Setting up scenes with cameras, lights and sound is not a fast or easy process - the bulk of your time on a shoot is not the actual shooting, it's the time to get everything in place to shoot.


    It can also save you time in post-production because you're not trying to match the lighting and location in the same way as an actual set outside, particularly if you need to reshoot anything.


    For the speed with which kpop groups are trying to churn out videos and comebacks, I completely understand why they prefer a controlled environment. Plus as the tech becomes more widespread, it is easier and cheaper to do the kind of CGI and digital work that was much more expensive 5 or so years ago.

  • You make a point but it's sad. It's not like they are doing movie quality work when they control the lighting and the overall environment. I don't mind if they prioritize the controlled space if they are going to have good results (like again the Twice MV). However, the result so far always look half-assed and "cheaper" than lower budget MVs that are shot outdoors because they are doing this.

  • If you wanna promote, I don't mind. Better be good ones.

    MV's from 2018-2021


    In some it's a bit harder to see that it's shot outdoors at some scenes

  • MV's from 2018-2021


    In some it's a bit harder to see that it's shot outdoors at some scenes

    :pepeshock:

  • Bestie you didn't like the next level and psycho MVs? Or TWICE ICSM? Or fancy?

    I didn't like the MV for Next Level. I was so sad because I wanted something on a bigger scale tbh. The fact many liked it and thought it was expensive even non-fans worries me because that would encourage SM to do more MVs like that. Psycho had indoor scenes mostly so it worked. Props are not bad for indoor scenes. It was elegant.

    For Fancy, it's similar that most scenes aren't trying to recreate an outside space with props (there were some moments tho) so it didn't ruin it for me. ICSM had its good and bad moments so idk.

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