Give 4th Gen a overall score so far

5. These female groups are cute but I feel like nothing has wowed anyone yet. I don't pay attention to 4th generation boy groups but unfortunately lol, it seems like they are making more impact.

7... I like most newer groups lol

People was saying same of gen3 at their debut too...

People are really not patient right?

So many troll and gen3 elitism trying to downgrade gen4 achievements only because they can't reach BTS, EXO or BP level.

Just for your information, even BTS needed more 2 years to finally get their 1st win and only started to be "approved" by kpop community 3-4 years after their debut.

While, gen4 debuted not so long time ago (people are saying 2018 but tbh, I feel it's more end 2019-2020 since 2017-early 2019 feel like a gen 3.5)

7

I'm kinda amazed at how already so polished these groups are ? It's a lot less messy than any groups that debuted 10 years ago. They still need to develop their potential to their fullest, but I have no doubt they will be up to the challenge of all these changes in the kpop industry.

time will tell if they will leave their mark or not. some are barely 2 years into careers

We got Avatars or w.e. is the name of it!!

I actually agree with you. Since second half of 3rd generation nth memorable and interesting is going on in kpop imo.

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5. These female groups are cute but I feel like nothing has wowed anyone yet. I don't pay attention to 4th generation boy groups but unfortunately lol, it seems like they are making more impact.

your not impressed by aespa lol?

2.

i dont stan much groups from 4th gen if im being honest besides treasure.

4... i like girl groups but not that much and i really hate boy groups so

really thankful for gidle though

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your not impressed by aespa lol?

I love Aespa and the members but at first, their debut didn't make me go wow. I just thought Black Mamba was a bop and that the music video was pretty.

I feel like the 3rd generation had a different aura where you could just tell who was going to be popular and who was going to be the leaders.

5 so far. I like them, but it's still not distinct from 3rd gen yet. It's too early thou, so an average score should be OK.

7. There are some really great young and talented groups but there are some subpar groups.

5/10

there's hope for 4th gen ggs to do really well. But i don't see how any of 4th gen bgs will get a hit especially in korea. Most of them can't even enter melon top 100.

I give it a 7.5 for now.

ITZY, TXT and X1 debuts made it really exciting and with great debuts from Cherry Bullet as well. There was plenty of drama and I noticed that ITZY and TXT in particular changed the standard with 5 small members and their concepts. Lots of boy groups did the school uniform after TXT and ITZY inspired a generation of teen crush. Once PSY x JYP collab boy group, SM boy group and Mnet girl group debuts I can see it being more interesting.

I am going to go against the grain and not give a numerical value. Only a general "performing"/ "not performing" in reference to the music.

Girl Groups: Performing

Guy Groups: Not Performing

Gidle and EN- are repping hard. Fourth gen is in good hands with them leading. It’s a 10+ for me.

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For me, it's a 6. 3rd gen groups are definitely more of my style in concept and music, but there are a few groups I enjoy, mainly TXT and ATEEZ.

They're all super talented in dance, but there's not many good vocalists yet unfortunately, or if there are, the vocal processing is way too much.

i like txt , ateez and stray kids

in terms of ggs itzy and aespa are pretty okay

overall i would give them a 7

TXT have won my heart and even though I'm not a fan of ITZY but they're a standout as well so it's not going bad.

For me it's a 9. I like a lot of 4th gen groups and I like their music too. Itzy, Straykids, Aespa, Treasure, Gidle are my current faves. But loona, everglow, rocket punch, purple kiss and secret number are also on my radar. I feel like 4th gen has a lot of talent.

If you are looking for great vocalists in 4th gen, look forward to purple kiss & aespa.

8, Even some of the groups are rookie but it feels they've been here for more than 5 years. They handle everything so professionally. Itzy and (G)I-DLE literally changed the game during their debut eras. I am more into 4th gen ggs, don't have idea about bgs though.

Enhypen is here, the future so automatically a 10/10.

I'm giving them a strong 7! I feel like everyones compression is not fair at all. firstly, you're comparing them to 3rd gen groups now not 3rd gen groups at the same duration of time if you were to compare the same mark 3rd/ 4th gen then 4th are winning overall! there's much more talent, lets be real guys! a lot of insane vocals and no longer just Wendy/ RV/ mamamoo but at least two people in every group has strong vocals and dance?! its basically a dance competition! 4th have upped the competition massively, its just unlucky with the whole covid thing and (I think) kpop no longer treasure creativity but try to replicate what's already gone viral etc. I still like 4th gen and I think the future is exciting cause you really don't know what groups going to be on top! also lets not forget them visualllsssssssss

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8, Even some of the groups are rookie but it feels they've been here for more than 5 years. They handle everything so professionally. Itzy and (G)I-DLE literally changed the game during their debut eras. I am more into 4th gen ggs, don't have idea about bgs though.

Sameeeeee I don't know why but Bg are sooooooo boring! im getting into NCT but they're 3rd gen, and im getting into enhypen but they're 50/50 right now, 50 they go down the generic bad boy image which is so washed out and 50 they do something fresh

I mostly only follow girl groups so I can't say anything about boy groups.

But new gen girl groups are very polished in their training and their performance on stage are often times very good. The vocals are also not bad at all.

I give them a solid 8 out of 10.

People are having too high expectations for groups who are 1/2 years into their careers, some of the most promising ones being a few months old lol. Comparison to 3rd gen is unfair as the previous gen had enough time to establish themselves and create huge names. First years of 3rd gen weren't something bigger than the first years of 4th gen.

I think 4th gen groups have so much potential. They're already breaking and setting new records,competing with senior groups and doing well, gaining international fandom faster than ever. There are very interesting releases. Many trends have been set by 4th gen - the small amount of members per group, the sudden change in concept and etc, I love it.

7/10 for now, I'm still waiting for the most anticipated 4th gen groups to debut

For gg only. N/a. Idk enough. Also nothing has really impressed me so far yet

7/10 Lion exist in 4th gen.... perfect execution of concept, lyrics/music, MV, stages, and performance.1CC80277-222E-4A76-B500-50B2FEF8822C.jpg

6/10 there's both a lot of talent and mediocrity

Boy groups …Let's just say there is a reason Stray Kids are the only 4th gen boy group I stan.

3 out of 10.

As for BGs, no one really catch my attention other than TXT. They have nice concepts and easy-to-listen song. I hope GP will notice them and stan them or at least be their casual listeners.

GGs, for now it's either (G)I-dle and ITZY. (G)I-dle is higher on my standard. Queendom was really their turning point and all they need to do is releasing the right song. I mean Hwaa is very unique concept-wise, song-wise its unique, easy-to-listen, authentic, and has a great production. I didn't expect them to enter TOP10 MelOn, since its even harder for everyone to enter TOP100 with the new system.

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ITZY is slightly lower. Wannabe and Not Shy was a let down for me. Wannabe use the same exact structure like Dalla Dalla but success-wise its very different, Not Shy is somehow experimental for ITZY's standard. I guess it's too early to judge

4th Gen in general, they are too dance-centered. I wish they have more vocal-focused group like Mamamoo, BtoB, EXO, Red Velvet, and Gfriend. Most of 4th gen BGs are disappointing for me. I feel that 3rd gen is very strong, i dont think 4th is going to steal the spotlight. BTS is literally owning Korea, BP is loved by GP and have quite large fandom, Twice Mamamoo and Red Velvet are still going strong.

Kinda agree with U I only casually listen to 4 groups

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For me, it's a 6. 3rd gen groups are definitely more of my style in concept and music, but there are a few groups I enjoy, mainly TXT and ATEEZ.

They're all super talented in dance, but there's not many good vocalists yet unfortunately, or if there are, the vocal processing is way too much.

Yes there are tho, TREASURE is made up of the best vocalist in 4th gen so far. you should try them out.

4/10

10/10 just cuz of SKZ and I know niziu aren’t kpop but they going strong in JP

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Yes there are tho, TREASURE is made up of the best vocalist in 4th gen so far. you should try them out.

I know Treasure has good vocalists (I love Jeongwoo's and Yedam's voices), but I only like I LOVE YOU and My Treasure, MMM is still a maybe.

7/10 I really enjoy Everglow and Gidle, but the rest of groups are kind of hit and misses most of time to me.

5/10 - I like some of (G)-idle songs and TXT and that's about it