Recently a lot of fandoms have been calling their respective groups self-producing although that's not usually the case. While this isn't a drag to any group because I myself am a big fan of non self-producing groups such as VIXX and EXO (I know no one calls exo and vixx self-producing I'm just setting an example) I don't think it's really fair to call a group self-producing when they're not really involved in the process of composition or arrangement in the group's discography, I honestly think that a self-producing group is one where the members almost always write the entirety of the song's lyrics while also participating in the arrangement and actual production of the song, examples for this are: bigbang, seventeen, winner, ikon before hanbin departed, skz and shout out to ab6ix. I also think it's a really broad statement to say that x group "writes their own songs" when most of the time it's just rap lyrics or a minor contribution in a long list of writers and producers along the member, I think it's great that a lot of kpop idols are more involved in their songs than before but I think that generalizing the same statement among all idols undermines the hardwork of idols who are in charge of almost all of their music.
(this post is clearly not mine but since everyone is complaining about how dry the forum lately so why not bring some post from reddit 
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