NewJeans have support from other artists/rappers in music industry, Ive don’t. Why?

Hybe payola, they paid everyone

I think it’s their young age and young concept. Many people feel like they are cute little sisters. IVE has sexier concept (esp their come hither facial expressions) so maybe some just don’t prefer it, especially outside kpop? I don’t know, just a guess.

Because NJ is now the trend, the top new GG. Everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon.

It is just like when Ive displaced StayC. Now NJ has displaced Ive.

cos ive has a style that is more traditional, i would say kind like SNSD (not the i got a boy style of course) . Wich is very girly and classy and elegant. Wich is the Korean traditional taste

While the young hip school girl is NJ style. And this is a style nobody was doing well. I read somewhere, that NJ fans are mainly girls. So they have a power of a boy group. We all know that bg fans spend more, and are more loyal....And people in the industry like to attach their name to success.

People saying Ive already been displaced when they broke record for most uls and sold 1m with a single in their latest release lmao... If theyre doing well like that imagine if they had the clout and payola nj have

It’s always YOU.

dont speak up bad about Jang wonyoung

We know nj get huge promotion with hybe ...they have more ads and mediaplay

IVE had everyone singing Love Dive yes even celebrities, Cho gue sung literally said him and all his teammates on the Korean team listen to IVE a lot. Dives just don't have a weird obsession with letting everyone know every single person who speaks their name like Hybe stans love to do.

Quote from icyruios

IVE don't need the clout

pffftt WRONG

kakao's privilege doesn't extend overseas!!! lol

Quote from Magus

IVE had everyone singing Love Dive yes even celebrities, Cho gue sung literally said him and all his teammates on the Korean team listen to IVE a lot. Dives just don't have a weird obsession with letting everyone know every single person who speaks their name like Hybe stans love to do.

Youre right bc i literally forgot about that

It was the hot guy that got everyone drooling from the world cup lol

The actors from that ceremony award show too were all seen enjoying and singing ive and usually they have rbf for idols

Quote from nevermindmejin

I think it’s their young age and young concept. Many people feel like they are cute little sisters. IVE has sexier concept (esp their come hither facial expressions) so maybe some just don’t prefer it, especially outside kpop? I don’t know, just a guess.

You re weird...you know leeseo is soon 16 yo yet only minor of ive now...

Dont used sexier....ive have self confiance concept abd classy

ive stans are so salty in this thread lmao

Quote from kookiekookie

ive stans are so salty in this thread lmao

salty how... It is incredibly disingenous to say ive was displaced when their last cb was extremely successful for all standards - physical, digital and international. They did all that without getting all the clout nj got from being bts hoobaes or sse moving strings to get them a 130m playlist reach on spotify, and thats a fact

Quote from kookiekookie

ive stans are so salty in this thread lmao

We re not salty but honest..we know hybe mediaplay is everywhere esp when they become ambassador with huge brands without big influence in fashion...or interest ..

Quote from Magus

IVE had everyone singing Love Dive yes even celebrities, Cho gue sung literally said him and all his teammates on the Korean team listen to IVE a lot. Dives just don't have a weird obsession with letting everyone know every single person who speaks their name like Hybe stans love to do.

It is indeed weird obsession, they remember things most normal people don't even pay attention to. Like who cares if rappers and celebrities are mentioning your already extremely successful group? Why are you even comparing who was mentioned more? Weird

Quote from nevermindmejin

I think it’s their young age and young concept. Many people feel like they are cute little sisters. IVE has sexier concept (esp their come hither facial expressions) so maybe some just don’t prefer it, especially outside kpop? I don’t know, just a guess.

IVE concept is not on sexy side at all, but rather on classy side.

Quote from catzi

People saying Ive already been displaced when they broke record for most uls and sold 1m with a single in their latest release lmao... If theyre doing well like that imagine if they had the clout and payola nj have

not that i stan nj but aint kakao who owns ive. they have the media & more powerful than hybe. they also own melon. in other words? if hybe is really doing some payola for nj , its possible same with ive , aespa etc since they need that to entice loyal fans & create strong fd.

see kakao again, bless u ive

Quote from vivaliberta

dont speak up bad about Jang wonyoung

We know nj get huge promotion with hybe ...they have more ads and mediaplay

no one speaking bad about wonyoung here tf are you talking about.

"We know nj get huge promotion with hybe...they have more ads and mediaplay "...

As they should. It's their artist so they have the right to promote them. But more ads? mediaplay? in what way? what's your basis?

I wish hybe got newjeans the yt ads as much as starship got for ive. But no, newjeans never advertise their videos on yt. Also, ive has two popular members from izone. They got the advantage already as soon as they debuted unlike newjeans. You're talking about mediaplay when your fave is a kakao group that likes to manipulate the media. Imagine the false media they will create more if they weren't caught up 😬

Quote from sveznalica

It is indeed weird obsession, they remember things most normal people don't even pay attention to. Like who cares if rappers and celebrities are mentioning your already extremely successful group? Why are you even comparing who was mentioned more? Weird

1. op is a troll

2. no newjeans stan comparing who's mentioned more

Quote from catzi

salty how... It is incredibly disingenous to say ive was displaced when their last cb was extremely successful for all standards - physical, digital and international. They did all that without getting all the clout nj got from being bts hoobaes or sse moving strings to get them a 130m playlist reach on spotify, and thats a fact

they way you keep on dragging nj screams saltiness to me. FYI not all bts fans like nj. The fact that nj always get drag by some armys whenever they achieve something, ofcourse you wouldn't know because you don't follow them.

Big 3/4 privilege
the connection from those company > Starship

still that show
how awesome IVE
even comes from mid size company Starship
w less privilege than Big 3/4

Quote from Jackah

not that i stan nj but aint kakao who owns ive. they have the media & more powerful than hybe. they also own melon. in other words? if hybe is really doing some payola for nj , its possible same with ive , aespa etc since they need that to entice loyal fans & create strong fd.

Wake up kakao privilege only became a thing because of ive so antis can use it against them. When have u ever seen kakao privilege being associated to iu, monsta x, wjsn, stayc, weeekly, victon, tbz, sistar or boyfriend like be for real. Years in the industry and kakao only using it now, yeah sure jan

Quote from kookiekookie

they way you keep on dragging nj screams saltiness to me. FYI not all bts fans like nj. The fact that nj always get drag by some armys whenever they achieve something, ofcourse you wouldn't know because you don't follow them.

If i see nj stans trying to drag ive i will drag nj back, it is that simple. Fuck around find out

Music vs trendy it girls

Suddenly fanwar, good thread

Quote from sveznalica

It is indeed weird obsession, they remember things most normal people don't even pay attention to. Like who cares if rappers and celebrities are mentioning your already extremely successful group? Why are you even comparing who was mentioned more? Weird

It's pick me behavior

Bc why one cares that some other nasty rapper in Korea likes u

Like no standard

So this is what a threatened fandom looks like. ive fans are no different

Quote from sveznalica

IVE concept is not on sexy side at all, but rather on classy side.

It’s the facial expression when performing, not the overall concept. Not like sistar lol. The iconic nail baiting moves in eleven, etc. They are well praised for their facial expression when they debuted. That was my take anyway, others may have other opinions.

Others celebrities mentioned positively IVE too. Newjeans are more popular and their reach is bigger than IVE so more celebrities are mentioning them.

IVE make pretty stereotypical on-brand idol music, so they're reach isn't as big as NewJeans who have a sound that resonates more to indie artists and rappers.

Its ok

Ive got Key sunbaenim

Quote from icyruios

I like how Starship became a subsidiary of Kakao in 2013, but only and ONLY 10 YEARS LATER we heard of this so called "Kakao privilege"

Make it make sense you dumbasses yes this is the word to describe some of y'all

Fans of Starshit groups like Sistar WJSN Monsta X have been calling out Starshit for their uselessness for years and now y'all are like "Kakao privilege"

LAWLLLLLLLLL

Display More

poor WJSN

where was their privilege