Let's talk about Paving the way & Gatekeeping

anyway I told y’all people have a vendetta against me and they just prove it over and over again. But the last I’ll say on this is if you want to call other bullies, be ready for others calling out the BS you participate in as well.

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And I shared my opinion that fortuna has every right to have and share her opinion. Ridiculing someone for saying something you don't want them to say is trying to bully someone into silence.

You can support fortuna without calling someone a bully.

Just like you said

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If feeling like you're being bullied is enough to label the other person a bully, you're going have a very long outside your door.

Let's not throw that word around so easily and let's actually pay attention to people who are real bullies and who bullied few users out of this forum. Amin and bye.

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I just woke up and I saw bullying stuff this is even more entertaining than KPOP bullying allegations Garam who?

You know, I didn’t read the last few pages and didn’t know there’s fights between ARMY and SM stans. Lol.

Anyway, time to put on my boots and join my comrade. Nice knowing ya icy.

SM stans, I’m ready

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Wow this thread went to some places i didn't expected

But it is everything you hoped for

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She wanted mods to "take the higher ground and not encourage toxicity" - fortuna called out that this was a cycle and this thread was just perpetuating it in her opinion. Certainly felt like she was telling her and other mods not to share their opinions?

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now hold on a minute there soldier.

I'm merely stating an opinion, MY OWN.

I felt strongly enough about this topic to post, and I was one of the first few users, because I was literally there defending bts from the same discrediting these newer groups are going through, years ago. It is a FACT that this behaviour is a cycle and will continue to be one. It is also the TRUTH that people ignore the hate BTS had gotten as they were getting popular in the states...

and while I do understand where Tic tac is coming from, it is only to raise the question of whether MODs should post in controversial threads or not. I still stand by MY opinion because I experienced it myself as a fan.

Finally, I'd like to appreciate @Ves' encouragement because she knows that I do take jabs like these seriously.

I do tend to try to make everyone happy.

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Opinions such as "x did it first and therefore y is excused in doing so and so" are I guess "normal" to have when you look at things from your fandom's perspective and lenses, but when you're a mod and you share such opinions, it doesn't inspire trust in mods impartiality. The next time an army troll makes a thread to drag my faves because of a fan edit or because they're touching grass in a forest (both real stories that did actually happen in this forum) and the general consensus is "have a taste of your own medicine - which I didn't even administer since my faves had quite literally not existed yet at the time-" and I feel like reporting the thread, I'm going to have 2nd thoughts because I'll remember that a mod picked a side in this fanwar and decided that this retaliation behaviour is understandable. That's why I said this opinion is worth criticising when it comes from a mod. I'm sorry, I know it must suck but mods are / should be indeed held to different standards when it comes to fanwars related opinions and stances.

I'm just here to say fortuna is that B

So smart and insightful always

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now hold on a minute there soldier.

I'm merely stating an opinion, MY OWN.

I felt strongly enough about this topic to post, and I was one of the first few users, because I was literally there defending bts from the same discrediting these newer groups are going through, years ago. It is a FACT that this behaviour is a cycle and will continue to be one. It is also the TRUTH that people ignore the hate BTS had gotten as they were getting popular in the states...

and while I do understand where Tic tac is coming from, it is only to raise the question of whether MODs should post in controversial threads or not. I still stand by MY opinion because I experienced it myself as a fan.

Finally, I'd like to appreciate @Ves' encouragement because she knows that I do take jabs like these seriously.

I do tend to try to make everyone happy.

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Saying she was trying to bully fortuna into silence is 100% accurate in my opinion. Anyone who tries to ridicule someone else for speaking is trying to bully someone into silence and make them ashamed of what they have said.

She herself said we are bullying her and trying to get her to leave AKP then accused me of having a personal vendetta. You want to talk about throwing around accusations flippantly?

I mean you did accuse her for something serious just because she shared her opinion, out of nowhere. I think like this and that's it. This is how I see what happened. 🤷‍♀️

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Tbh ?

No i expected to see people say things like " it's a weird mentality from kpop fans to gatekeep i agree"

OR "no i think some fandoms have the right to gatekeep because what they went through"

I wasn't expecting to see a user fight with a mod and seeing the word bully throw here

I know i'm smart but not enough to predict people actions

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Kpop fans will never change, there is no character development arc

This still going on?? So the question here is are mods, specifically ARMY mods, aren't allowed to have their own opinions regarding anything that is not rainbows and sunshines?

Why do an ARMY mod have to take the high road when they were not even targetting a specific individual but fandoms in general. Just to fill in the blanks and put things in perspective that OP left out?

They are apparently instigating and thriving in toxicity if they participate in discussions and try to answer how something is not only one fandoms' fault but a chain reaction?

Interesting! Should kpop fans stop stanning the groups they stan and stop talking about their fandoms after they become mods at akp.com?

can I petition for a tomato reaction or the clown one to return?

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We can agree to disagree then. I think she ridiculed fortuna and other mods out of nowhere. My response was directed at that, not out of nowhere in my opinion.

I think she gave her opinion and that she is allowed to have one (even if you don't like it) without people jumping on her.