IVE is the most 'perfect' girl group to have debuted in years

in the last 0.25 years maybe

Don’t know about perfect but I can tell that all the members can sing they don’t have a powerhouse vocalist but no one is struggling same case for Stayc

let's not lie now...

Changed your tone a bit haven't you?

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Should I stan IVE?

I thought Eleven was decent, and I appreciate the idol quality of the members but for me to stan I need at least one standard visual in a group.

godkingteshub

Dec 9th 2021

We went from "I need at least one standard visual" to "most perfect girl group"

I agree starship def played safe with this one to prevent another wsjn scenario from happening that group has the visual and talent they could’ve easily become rv and twice rivals in their early days but the company decided to give them a lousy weakass debut song lol

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lol I was about to post that. We share the same brain

It's Wonyoung and Yujin's show. You could replace the other members with literally any four girls off the street and Eve would have exactly the same level of success.

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This. Their 'lineup' reminds me of StayC. Not the members individually, but rather it's not like they have a huge standout top tier vocalist/dancer/rapper, but they are all talented and well trained enough to hold their own, and work really well cohesively as a group to shine as one

Like of course sure Wonyoung and Yujin give the group a huge initial hype but other members are slowly getting popular as well.

Leeseo is gaining attention in Korea

And rei internationally she has the most liked posts on twitter after wonyoung plus with her solo cover but she is proving that she is a good rapper and singer

I feel like Starship will push them gradually once they get established

Yes i think they are flawless if ppl disagree its just bc they feel threatened

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I hope Gaeul gets more recognition she's so beautiful and she's also one of the better dancers in the group. Hopefully they give her more lines in their next comeback

If kpop has taught us anything it's that someone has to be the least popular member in a group.

It looks like it's going to be Gaeul for the foreseeable future.

It shouldn't bother her though. She should know shes a Queen.

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Leeseo is gaining attention in Korea

And rei internationally she has the most liked posts on twitter after wonyoung plus with her solo cover but she is proving that she is a good rapper and singer

I feel like Starship will push them gradually once they get established

So Rei is the rapper?

I was wondering. When I heard Eleven, I didn't think I heard a rap verse as is typical in KPOP songs. Was wondering if this was the first KPOP group in awhile without one.

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If kpop has taught us anything it's that someone has to be the least popular member in a group.

It looks like it's going to be Gaeul for the foreseeable future.

It shouldn't bother her though. She should know shes a Queen.

yep being the least popular member in a popular group isn't as bad as some people make it seem

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I think the only thing they are missing is a true follow up breakout hit that exceeds Tag Me.

Their debut remains their most electric song.

They just need a follow up.

But in terms of the group itself they have no weakness and I see them as a powerhouse "perfect" group in construction.

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Wasn't After School their most successful song?

StayC says hello

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They lack international advantage, which Rei gives to IVE

Nah, they are perfect

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Like is there anything you can criticize them? From talent, visual, stage presence, member personalities, attitude, charisma. They may not have a 'top vocalist of their generation' but all the members are competent and nobody is lagging in any significant way. I literally didn't see a single negative comment about them.

The inability to defeat the Senior Singer.

Thread promotion. Op won't mind.

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Leeseo adorable in purple and space buns

Its called space buns right?

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atropos

Dec 14th 2021

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Is this shade or not? Like I am honestly confusion

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If kpop has taught us anything it's that someone has to be the least popular member in a group.

It looks like it's going to be Gaeul for the foreseeable future.

It shouldn't bother her though. She should know shes a Queen.

I think all she needs is to shine more in their next song, Starship should give her a solo dance or more lines to at least make her more even in terms of popularity compared to the others. She has a lot of potential, she's talented, pretty and funny af. Sadly she got the least impactful moments in Eleven, while the others got the intro, the chorus and the slow mo parts.

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My vote goes to WEEEKLY for that.

They have everything plus vocals.

IMO, every member of WEEEKLY could be a potential IT Girl.

Plus, they have a powerhouse Main Vocal in Monday who might actually be the best singer of the 4th gen GG.

Monday and Soeun might be the best vocal duo of the 4th generation girl groups :

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It's Wonyoung and Yujin's show. You could replace the other members with literally any four girls off the street and Eve would have exactly the same level of success.

we know lol

and that’s fine the other members will grow in popularity as time goes on

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They lack international advantage, which Rei gives to IVE

foreign idols don’t rlly help much in a group’s popularity lmao japanese idols r so common that japan kpop fans don’t care anymore

also often the most popular member in japan is never the japanese member

like in twice , aespa , izone minus sakura

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foreign idols don’t rlly help much in a group’s popularity lmao japanese idols r so common that japan kpop fans don’t care anymore

also often the most popular member in japan is never the japanese member

like in twice , aespa , izone minus sakura

Who is Japanese in Aespa?

And MiSaMo are the most popular members in Japan, with Tzuyu added.

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Who is Japanese is Aespa?

And MiSaMo are the most popular members in Japan, with Tzuyu added.

when Twice blew up in Japan with TT it was Tzuyu by far and to this day she’s equal to J-line

watch any Twice JP concert vid and everyone screeches for Tzuyu the most, she was a hot topic on JP forums for ages because of her looks

Giselle is half JP !

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when Twice blew up in Japan with TT it was Tzuyu by far and to this day she’s equal to J-line

watch any Twice JP concert vid and everyone screeches for Tzuyu the most, she was a hot topic on JP forums for ages because of her looks

Giselle is half JP !

Giselle?! Ah okay.

Tzuyu is popular in Japan. She is top along with MiSaMo and definitely does not lose to them in popularity, but I don't know if I would say she is the most popular member there.

From what I remember, Momo was the most popular with Twice fans when they first debuted. I don't know about the searches. I'm talking in terms of the selling power of her merch. So, yeah, I don't know about who the most searched was at that time.

A stretch.

Weeekly, StayC, and Purple Kiss all have the whole package imo.