Why the term "oppalogist" is annoying af

Okay so I guess we can all agree that some people deserve to be called that and I'm not saying it can't be used alltogether but I've already seen many people using it whenever some shitstorm scandal breaks out involving male idols or actors. Yup some fangirls really are super unreasonable and defend their idols ignoring the reality but this term is also being used towards fans who aren't so keen on canceling their favs just because of some rumours or anon posts.

Take the situation with Kim Seon Ho (or many others)...there were some people saying the things the ex-gf said about him don't add up but they were immediately called out as "oppalogists", victim shamers " or mocked with the good old "oppa didn't mean to" etc...you get what I mean

Tbh it's super annoying because it makes the fans who actually know better than cancel somebody without any proof look like idiots and it fuels the cancel culture

As I was talking about Kim Seon Ho ...you should read the full Dispatch reveal on k-boo (this forum won't let me spell the word properly or insert a link to the website wth) because akp news really suck lol

I'm not even his fan but it kinda bothered me how people were immediately siding with the woman not knowing the whole truth, poor guy...and don't get me start about the woman...not only she ruined him but also harmed the real victims whom nobody might believe because of shitty people like her

EDIT: People voting for "nah"explain yourself too

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It's annoying AF because it implies that the people given that label are supporting someone blindly cause they are infatuated with them and summarily tries to dismiss whatever argument that person is making, valid or not. There is no way for that NOT to be frustrating.

Oh you worded it much better than me ... very well said

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There will always be cases where it's not fairly used, as with all things, but it would be less prevalent if 99% of Kpop fans didn't behave like actual oppalogists.

It's like with stereotypes. We know stereotypes are just that, stereotypes. But the fact is stereotypes still exist for reason.

I get what you mean but I really wouldn't say it's 99%

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I dunno who Kim Seon Ho is, so I'll use Seungri as example for the term 'Oppalogist'. These fans excuse/support everything their oppa did despite the overwhelming evidence. (There are some here on akp. )

Yup there're defo people like thattoo but I was talking about Kim Seon Ho because his situation is the exact opposite of Seungri's situation...KSH is an actor whose ex wrote a lengty post about him being a jerk , forcing her to undergo abortion and then leaving her because of it...everybody was super keen to cancel him and all advertisment companies droped him like a hot potato...he apologised to the gf and everybody involved but then Dispatch revealed the truth about the ex distorting how it really happened, she also lied to KSH a lot and was meeting other men behind his back and that was the reason he broke up with her not the abortion they agreed on by the way...he also didn't want this situation to harm her so he didn't even try to defend himself so her friends and his friends sent some convos to Dispatch so the truth can be revealed....anyway my point is I saw people using the term oppalogist and such when his fans where trying to defend him and saying some things she was saying didn't add up....it was a situation when nothing was confirmed yet but anybody who tried to defend him was labeled as oppalogist or victim shamer etc

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oppalogists exist and i wont stop calling them that

I'm not saying they don't but I find the term to be super overused or unfairly used a lot which is quite derogatory towards women who are targeted with it

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and being derogatory is the whole point-

would you want to ban words like stupid or idiot because they're used unfairly SOMETIMES and have a negative connotation-

I never said I want to ban the word, I just said it's being overused a lot and it's also problematic because it specifically targets women as if men can't be delusional about their favs

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for every "opplogist" like term, there's one meant for men too, like uncle fan for instance, or just straight up being called horny or a perv. i dont think there's anything problematic with that. plus oppalogist isnt really gendered? it's just used against women more since women tend to stan men more-

oppa is a term in Korean only women use towards older men than them so yes it is very gendered...the other terms you mentioned aren't used in the same context as "oppalogist" tho...nobody will call men perv etc just for defending their fav female idols if a scandal breaks out

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so they'll call them simps instead? i've seen plenty of times, people saying things like "uncle fans are at it again" and what not else.

not every gendered term is inherently bad. i dont think there's anything wrong with calling someone an oppalogist when 90% of kpop fans will ignore any mistake their faves make and defend them blindly.

i think your problem is less with the word and more with the fact that its gendered there isnt an exact equivalent for girlgroup stans

I have problem with the word itself because it's an easy cop-out from arguement like superyeah said above and also because it is gendered ...as I said before men can be as delusional about their favs as women

Simp can be used for anybody tho and "uncle fans" is used in very defferent context

We can agree on disagree tho it doesn't bother me that much, it's just annoying

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I feel like only oppalogists are mad at the term oppalogists, and the comment above proves again why I said 99%. The amount of blind defensive and obsession toward idols is on a cult level, and quite honestly oppolgists isn't even half as bad as some stans deserve.

And as for the term being gendered, regardless of it's use in Korean, I've always used in reference to boy group stans be them male or female. When it comes to girl group fans the word "apologist" doesn't quite mesh well, so rather, the phrase I've always seen is "Unnie didn't mean its".

In any case, my general assessment is that Kpop fans need to go outside more.

I have no problem admitting some of my faves are trash and call out their terrible behaviour (hell I like BB but the group is a mess, especially the asshole Seungri) but still don't like the term for reasons I've mentioned above ...you're saying 99% deserve it but that's just your take on the situation, my take is it's being overused and it fuels cancel culture which I still find to be a bigger evil than so called oppalogists

I've literally never seen anybody use "unnie didn't mean it" and I've been into k-pop for 7 years but even if it's used it'd still be deragotary only towards female fans as it is again females who use the term unnie in Korean, it's noona for males

In any case I agree with your general assessment