IS NEWJEANS MORE TALENTED THAN BLACKPINK? (Trigger Warning: Opinions)

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I'll disagree

Newjeans members are bad in nothing (besides rap) but they are good in nothing either, they do the job

That's their problem like i would mention none of them if i have a talk with my friends about good dancers or good singers (maybe dani but that's it)

In the other hand blackpink lineup have members who excel in one area and do the job in other area where they don't excel

Like Lisa excel in rap and dancing but she do the job in singing, she's not an atrocious singer

Ppl just have this weird logic that if a rapper doesn't sing they are just bad while lisa isn't a main vocal or lead vocal lead she actually have a nice voice when singing and doesn't sound bad, she just have less singing lines because the other members fulfill the roles of vocalist of the group

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Agree!

Overall New Jeans members are more balanced individually, but they‘re not really sticking out when it comes to vocals/dance/rap. All in all I still prefer New Jeans over BlackPink due to consistency and their cohisiveness as a group. BlackPink‘s more about individuality.

If I had to pinpoint one specific trait about New Jeans that makes them stick out to other groups it would be their vocal colors and tones. They‘re one of the very few groups where all the members have really pleasing vocals. No one sounds overly squeaky, nasal or forcefully high pitched.

Talking about Lisa - she may not have super impressive vocals, hitting high notes or outstanding technique. However in my opinion she‘s actually more stable than Jennie most of the time. I‘ve never seen her singing off key or with shaky vocals. So she gets the job done pretty neatly.

NewJeans have far better voices, they also sing and dance better too overall. Except Lisa. But Hanni Haerin Danielle are just that good.

Raping wise BP are better but NJ doesn’t really rap so. Can’t really compare. Overall NJ is more talented. No doubt.

Even Roses voice can't be compared to Hanni. Hannis voice is just that good.

In BP the only exceptional thing is Lisas dancing and stage presence. Jennies rapping can be decent too when she tries. But apart of that there is nothing remarquable about that group talent wise. Also there is a lack of cohesion and consistancy within the group.

Ps: i read you thread and i agree with most of what you said. seems like a fair take 👌.

Not going to vote on this because I have listen very little on NewJeans so know too little about them.

But overall it's a bit pointless to compare a group that just debuted about a year ago with a group that debuted seven years ago. Okay, we could compared Blackpink of 2017 with todays NewJeans, but it's very hard to resest your brain and do that and you will end up and thinking about Blackpink of today.

Also, hard to compare groups with different music style and concept, the purpose is to be good on different thing. And the fact they have different number of members also is a factor.

But without voting... maybe NewJeans have more "talent", just because I'm not super impressed by Blackpink, even if they are one of my favorites. But being "talented" don't help if their songs sucks like NewJeans.

blackpink but people will obviously vote NJ even though they fucking average as hell. They have no highs and are just average.

BP have better peaks in Stage,Rap,Dancing and singing is about even.

Compare BP dances in there first year to NJ.. NJ dances are fking bland.

Your "opinions" are just straight up hate tbh.

Fair assessment. No lies detected.

Of the top girl groups of the third generation, you could argue BlackPink is the least talented (compared to MMM, RV, Twice and GFriend).

They aren't a super high bar to clear when it comes to the categories of singing or dancing, if you look at the group as a whole.

They've really come into their own since debut, but they'll always kind of be 2NE1 Lite to me

I'm just gonna say people underestimate New Jeans' dancing ability just because they don't sing hard hitting music. But they actually have very hard choreographies.

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Fair assessment. No lies detected.

Of the top girl groups of the third generation, you could argue BlackPink is the least talented (compared to MMM, RV, Twice and GFriend).

They aren't a super high bar to clear when it comes to the categories of singing or dancing, if you look at the group as a whole.

They've really come into their own since debut, but they'll always kind of be 2NE1 Lite to me

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Very similar to my view.

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Fair assessment. No lies detected.

Of the top girl groups of the third generation, you could argue BlackPink is the least talented (compared to MMM, RV, Twice and GFriend).

They aren't a super high bar to clear when it comes to the categories of singing or dancing, if you look at the group as a whole.

They've really come into their own since debut, but they'll always kind of be 2NE1 Lite to me

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Funny you mention 2NE1 but as a BlackJack they were called untalented and had members good at different things which is pretty much like BP.

Anyways you guys can enjoy your hate session.

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Funny you mention 2NE1 but as a BlackJack they were called untalented and had members good at different things which is pretty much like BP.

Yeah. And I think they were better at those things than BlackPink.

I'm not going to turn this into a 2NE1 vs. BP discussion, but my opinion is that everything BP does 2NE1 did the same or better, and I'll always favor the one who came first. It's like comparing Michael Jordan to Kobe Bryant.

I don't think 2NE1 was the most talented of their era, and I don't think BP is more talented than 2NE1. Both statements can be true.

Hmmmm I think bp have more stand out dancer and rapper. But I’d say the overall all dancing skills of new jeans is better. For a singing group new jeans doesn’t really have any remarkable singers.

Rap : BP

Dance : NJ

Singing : both about the same but new jeans is a predominantly singing group without stand out singers and this brings the over all talent level of the group down.

Verdict : Blackpink

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Funny you mention 2NE1 but as a BlackJack they were called untalented and had members good at different things which is pretty much like BP.

Anyways you guys can enjoy your hate session.

I have pretty much the same view of 2NE1 as with BP, about the same level. But 2NE1 was so much more fun on stage compared to BP.

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I swear put any group before … vs Blackpink and we get the next hit thread…

My weeb mind can only see the current girl group hierarchy in One Piece logic.

BP and Twice are like the Yonko currently reigning over the seas, and NJ are the best of the worst generation coming up and taking over their territories to start a new era

NEW JEANS will not have one thing that BLACKPINK HAS and thats BP songs and Teddy... More proof that BP are a hit because of their music....

Also members have so much individuality in everything, none of them are styled the same, they dont sound similar, their personalities are different... whereas most kpop groups cater to their group image... a simple example is new Jean's outfits in Lalapaloza ... you will never catch BP represent themselves with same outfits. This also shows how their fashions sets them apart.

There are so many idols and groups who are talented, do you see all of them becoming as big as BP?

AKP hates Teddy but his songs and the girls themselves and YGE's budget for their MV are going to set them apart for a while.

Also another small example is how companies are now hiring more idols who know English while they forget kpop stans die over some members in BTS and BP who barely know English but will get thousands of views just for their one liners...

You can get perfect idols and make a perfect group in every sense but success is still not guaranteed...

The only highs in BP are Lisa's dance is pretty good in limited styles she showcases and the rap is alright...

However I can't credit the rap as talent on their part as the writing, flow, bars, rhyming scheme, etc are created by the lyricist and producers of their songs...any idol or yob off the street could make those sound good when someone far more talented, Teddy, does all the skill work. It's not like singing where there is a high level of technical ability and skill needed in the delivery. I mean rappers with ghost writers are not respected as real rappers at all in Hip Hop for a reason.

So we're putting Lisa's dancing against NewJeans? Obviously NJ win this.

EDIT: the grammar was so bad...again with the their/there mistakes.

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Now that I think…It’s unfair to bring rap as a main point in your argument since NewJeans aren’t a rap group (and thank god for that!!) also blackpink cosplay rap because they don’t write their lyrics. Rappers are never taken seriously in the west unless they write their bars. Kpops version of manufactured rap is so weird. Thank god for BTS and Soyeon as true rappers.

blackpink’s Rosé is not a better singer than Hanni or even Danielle and the others don’t come close lol. And let’s not forget OVERALL consistency.

NewJeans as a whole are far better at singing and dancing in my opinion and I disagree.

Lisa may be overall the the dancer though so that counts eyeguess..

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I find it weird you call out manufactured rap when literally all of KPOP is manufactured , them being manufactured rapping is no different then a singer being manufactured. Its pretty easy to be consisent when all your songs have literally 1 note.

not interested in this unbelievably boring and predictable debate, anyway yall should bless your ears with some literal honey vocals 😌

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The only highs in BP are Lisa's dance is pretty good in limited styles she showcases and the rap is alright...

However I can't credit the rap as talent on their part as the writing, flow, bars, rhyming scheme, etc are created b the lyricist and producers of their songs...an idol or yob off the street could make those sound good when someone fare more talented, Teddy, does all the skill work. It's not like singing where their is a high level of technical ability and skill needed in the delivery. I mean rappers with ghost writers are not respected as real rappers at all in Hip Hop for a reason.

So we're putting Lisa's dancing against NewJeans? Obviously NJ win this.

Where is that for NJ considering they are basically a one note singing group? They also barely took part in their songs yet people here are acting like they did everything.. please. I guess congrats to NJ for having a less sexist company that actually gives them credits and allows them to write.

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I find it weird you call out manufactured rap when literally all of KPOP is manufactured , them being manufactured rapping is no different then a singer being manufactured. Its pretty easy to be consisent when all your songs have literally 1 note.

Let's not act like we don't know what they're talking about here.

In the world of Hip Hop and rapping, writing your own bars is literally a requirement to be respected as an artist.

Being given notes and lyrics to sing is not comparable in any way to someone writing your bars for you in rap

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not interested in this unbelievably boring and predictable debate, anyway yall should bless your ears with some literal honey vocals 😌

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I think rose and her are quite similar?

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Let's not act like we don't know what they're talking about here.

In the world of Hip Hop and rapping, writing your own bars is literally a requirement to be respected as an artist.

Being given notes and lyrics to sing is not comparable in any way to someone writing your bars for you in rap

I mean it should be though I find it pretty cringe at the hypocrisy people here should know by now that the females in YG either never get credit if they take part or are not allowed to add their lyrics.

CL had the same shit thrown against her and when she was actually allowed to take part for their last album proved what a good writer she was..

I find it cringe people are trying to use this as a negative while stanning groups that are just as manufactured.

The problem with NJ is that their music dont allow them to showcase their talents. Danielle has an incredible voice but the music doesnt feature this because they literally sing one note and it's all the same generic garage band tone, no emotion behind any of it. At least BP songs allow them to belt once in awhile. Hanna's is overrated though, she's fine enough but hardly distinguishable from everyone else's tone in Kpop. Also dont forget that BP all have super unique tones, you can recognize their colors anywhere, while NJ blends together like almost every Kpop group.

BP also have some of the best rappers in the world in Jenlisa. NJ wins in dancing overall though because BP just doesnt care anymore about syncro group choreo at this stage of their careers lol,

I love both groups and I find them both really talented so this is hard.

But overall I think it’s NewJeans for me, I personally find them super underrated for their talents. It may have something to do with their more chill music.

A lot of people don’t associate more lowkey music with talent for some reason.

Superm is a great example of how you can create the perfect group and you still cannot make it a top group.

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Where is that for NJ considering they are basically a one note singing group? They also barely took part in their songs yet people here are acting like they did everything.. please. I guess congrats to NJ for having a less sexist company that actually gives them credits and allows them to write.

Anytime blackpinks mid talent get's called into question people cry 'sexism'...

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blackpink but people will obviously vote NJ even though they fucking average as hell. They have no highs and are just average.

BP have better peaks in Stage,Rap,Dancing and singing is about even.

Compare BP dances in there first year to NJ.. NJ dances are fking bland.

Your "opinions" are just straight up hate tbh.

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It's funny you talk about hate when even if you disagree with this persons opinion it is their opinion and they didn't really insult BP. They didn't say they are shit or make unnecessary harsh comments. They said their opinions. You on the other hand called a group average as hell. I mean going by your standards yours is equally or even more hateful than OPs.

To answer the main question, I think Blackpink is more talented and interesting to watch both as entertainers and performers. But that is to be expected of a veteran group versus a rookie group. NJs is amazing though and as they grow more they will continue to improve.

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The problem with NJ is that their music dont allow them to showcase their talents. Danielle has an incredible voice but the music doesnt feature this because they literally sing one note and it's all the same generic garage band tone, no emotion behind any of it. At least BP songs allow them to belt once in awhile. Hanna's is overrated though, she's fine enough but hardly distinguishable from everyone else's tone in Kpop. Also dont forget that BP all have super unique tones, you can recognize their colors anywhere, while NJ blends together like almost every Kpop group.

BP also have some of the best rappers in the world in Jenlisa. NJ wins in dancing overall though because BP just doesnt care anymore about syncro group choreo at this stage of their careers lol,

Did you say Jenny and Lisa are some of the best rappers in the world? like they are fine but in the world? really?

Both are more talented than Aespa.