True but youtube still has a larger audience of Korean people listening to the music so it can still show general interest especially among younger people which is the biggest audience for music. I do agree if you want to see what older people are listening to melon is most accurate. Also to my knowledge YT music does not add videos using the audio towards the stream at least not for their charts.
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Melon still has its value because its ranking is UL-based (similar to filtered streams for Spotify) and it still publish hourly and 24H cumulative ULs
Those are some reliable metrics that hard to inflate as compared to streams.
I agree never said melon has no value. It is still the second biggest streaming platform at least for now
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Melon has ULs system that Yt and Spotify doesn’t have. It is easy to mass stream and top YT and Spotify charts, but not Melon.
I will give you an example.
Supernova was doing 1.5m streams daily on Melon on its peak for weeks. And it was doing around 100k streams on Spotify. Similar streams on YT music(1.5m).
While for example Skz Babymonster have really good streams on YT, but they can’t top melon charts.
If you mass stream that amount on melon you won’t get to N1, but you can get to N1 on yt by mass streaming.
Melon is a better indicator of the popularity of a song among general public.
Youtube music users skew younger, from teens to 30s, while melon skews older. Yes, youtube music is more susceptible to streamers but they do also combat it which is evident in the lower youtube views/plays these days. However, relying on melon when most young people don't use that service as much anymore cant really represent the general public. Music streams is still largely driven by young people and that shows the importance of youtube music still.
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I agree we should prioritise YouTube since Day6 is also the best there
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anyways melon is still usable as an indicator
the reason why songs don't enter melon chart is because of the sheer amount of fandoms clogging up the top 100 list
if your song is truly a hit in korea it will end up high on melon top 100 no matter what
the reason why youtube music korea is easier to enter is because songs that are a year old are removed
fandoms also don't target mass streaming on yt korea
Im not sure how accurate the year this is as Illits magnetic is still charting on youtube and it is over a year old. Also wouldn't that mean that youtube would be more natural as it isn't as impacted by fandom streaming. I mean youtube does go hard on bot streaming these days as can be seen with the general downturn on youtube views in general on youtube.
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i believe this is only app users, however I would guess that koreans would gravitate towards youtube more than melon if they are going to stream with a browser. Otherwise this is tracking app users.
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This is just your opinion. All chart companies do their best on bot streaming. Youtube also does this. All charts can be looked at but every year that passes the amount of importance on melon gets less. Also circle is great but it doesn't count youtube I believe which is a miss since it is the top chart in korea
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yeah I've been saying for a while that melon is more fan driven that youtube music chart is more popular now but still every chart should be taken into consideration to gauge a group popularity
I agree. I still think a lot of fans however have this oversized picture of melon significance in Korea when honestly year after year it is losing ground to more international services. But yes all should be looked at in general
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I think it's just by habit that ppl still care about melon
I guess, I mean Blackpin is number one on youtube music which is the biggest chart in Korea. Thats more impressive than a number 8 on melon.
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when the largest platform in korea is Youtube Music, most of my Korean friends use youtube music or spotify these days. Melon is bleeding users to these platforms. It predicted by next year or sooner it will be the third most used service behind youtube music and spotify. For an accurate representation of the domestic music scene in Korea, try YouTube or Spotify instead of relying solely on Melon. It is going the way of genie. Lets drop the Melon glorification. Its heyday is over.
Here is the current top 5 of Youtube trending Chart
4) Famous by AllDay Project
5)This is Four by Twice
here is the numbers by the way.
source article: https://www.chosun.com/english…JLEE763BBBFCYT5FLWTFJDEY/
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I mean if you really must use English then at least make it ultra catchy. It can be done I guess but this song is not really a catchy variety. It’s a good song but it’s not one you would play constantly. I guess they have given up on trying to chart which honestly this far into their careers isn’t necessarily a terrible thing
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If we are in a club then I would prefer Blackpink songs. However, I don’t live in a club and so I prefer Twices song. That said, I think Twice song is too short and that’s a shame. Also there are some elements I do not think match overall but it’s a good song.
Jump is different from what BP has done before. That’s doesn’t mean it’s great but it’s decent. I think it’s meant for a club or something and I think it does that well.
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She’s been in JYP longer than most 5th gen idols have been alive.
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Gallup does ask a representative sample but 601 is not a representative sample of the populations of 94 countries.
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Chosen by 601 people in 94 countries. This isn’t even worth mentioning beyond interest in 601 people’s opinion about Kpop. This isnt representative of anything
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Still think it’s terrible they basically have no new group music besides a single, but they seemed to do well in Performance and that new single isn’t half bad.
They are doing well overall. Also the obstructed seat thing, it shows in the planning that it would be blocked. It may suck but lay better attention to your seat map
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Thai fans are exceedingly more mature than I think Korean fans or others might have been.
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Yeah, they beat SNSD on charts or on Music Shows, but no 2nd gen girl group won more Awards than SNSD.
SNSD: 125 (9 Daesang) - Overall sales SK+JP: 5.7M
2NE1: 80 (6 Daesang) - Overall sales SK+JP: 630K
Wonder Girls: 49 (2 Daesang) - Overall sales SK+JP: 350K
Twice also has more awards and Daesangs and sales than any group including I think double there number SNSD have
