[enter-talk] Journalist says: "aespa is certified b-list... current state of K-POP is New-I-Le generation"

Lsf doesn't have a bigger hit than Aespa so I am not sure why lsf is considered tier A but aespa doesn't.

Also, they forget (G)I-DLE if you compare last year

the biggest competitor of aespa is SM management

Sure Jan...

I don’t mind saying aespa is not one of the top groups but lol the “evidence” is some guys on tv saying what they’re listening to LATELY and not including aespa. aespa didn’t release music in a long time and the same guys in the pictures were seen listening to aespa two years ago lol.

Knetizen don't seem to like lsfm

I'm crying that they tried to create a narrative and no one bought

aespa is a 4th gen legacy act

Lesserfirm ain't higher than aespa. Aespa had a higher peak ,

It's obvious Aespa is the gg of Pann

aespa will prove them wrong

HybexSM war going strong lmfao

I agree that they tried to throw LSFM in there. Media play.

But, we all know it's New Jeans and IVE.

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Knetizen don't seem to like lsfm

they do, u can see it for their inital charting

LSRFM had the 3rd highest ULs in Korea this year in terms of initial interest behind only Ive and New Jeans and ahead of all other acts. They are #3 on Melon behind only Ive's two songs. However, it is clear they are not as popular as Ive and New Jeans, and Aespa does have the greatest song of 4th generation, Next Level.

Tier 1A

Ive

New Jeans

Idle

Tier 1B (the ranking within this tier changes)

Blackpink

Aespa

Lesserafim

Stayc

Red Velvet

people need to understand this is an opinion about 4th gen but yeah ive, new jeans and lsfr are the trendy groups now

this kind of articles seem like mediaplay to me though I would wait for baemon and new sm's girl group to debut though

I'm not even a fan of aespa but they literally had a national hit bigger than any song that any 4th gen released

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LSRFM had the 3rd highest ULs in Korea this year in terms of initial interest behind only Ive and New Jeans and ahead of all other acts. They are #3 on Melon behind only Ive's two songs. However, it is clear they are not as popular as Ive and New Jeans, and Aespa does have the greatest song of 4th generation, Next Level.

Tier 1A

Ive

New Jeans

Idle

Tier 1B (the ranking within this tier changes)

Blackpink

Aespa

Lesserafim

Stayc

Red Velvet

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you have to be kidding? sometimes I think you are troll imagine putting G idle, new jeans and G idle before blackpink the president called blackpink Korea's representative they are in the top 3 for gallup or Forbe's Korea you really underestimate blackpink

also they are obviously talking about 4th generation there

I would say that this is going to be the first generation where at the end, similar to western music, there will be no clear “top” artist. There will be moments where somebody is doing a little better than everybody else, but nobody who clearly overshadows everybody else.

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you have to be kidding? sometimes I think you are troll imagine putting G idle, new jeans and G idle before blackpink the president called blackpink Korea's representative they are in the top 3 for gallup or Forbe's Korea you really underestimate blackpink

also they are obviously talking about 4th generation there

Well i put BP in Tier 1B because they havent had a #1 hit in almost three years, no RAKs, PAKs, or national hits since HYLT/LSG.

Ive, Idle and NJ have all had HUGE UL peaks as well (550k-650k) since 2022, which is amazing since ULs have been way down compared to 2020. Tomboy, Hybe Boy, Attention, Ditto, Love Dive, Afterlike, and I AM are all national hits or soon to be, and Nude earned PAKs. Pink Venom, Shut Down, and Flower peaked at #2 or #3 and 400-500k ULs. I'm just keeping it real

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Well i put BP in Tier 1B because they havent had a #1 hit in almost three years, no RAKs, PAKs, or national hits since HYLT/LSG.

Ive, Idle and NJ have all had HUGE UL peaks as well (550k-650k) since 2022, which is amazing since ULs have been way down compared to 2020. Tomboy, Hybe Boy, Attention, Ditto, Love Dive, Afterlike, and I AM are all national hits or soon to be, and Nude earned PAKs. Pink Venom, Shut Down, and Flower peaked at #2 or #3 and 400-500k ULs. I'm just keeping it real

in years? what do you think of pink venom literally peaked #2 and shut down in the top 3 if you say this to a Knetizen they would laugh lol and trends come and go even aespa's NL had more impact that the groups you mentioned there.

imagine thinking melon is the only metric to measure a group success funny because black-pink is strong there too.

and a real way to measure how successful a groups is if they dominate in every area and that's when blackpink comes on top not to mention the impact they have in Korea and internationally no other girl group come close.

aespa is definitely A list. In this generation, IVE is currently leading the way. It's not clear who will settle in the 2nd and 3rd positions exactly. But with big physical sales i think aespa comfortable top 3. Unless we don't count the 3rd generation groups like Blackpink.

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Lmaooo the number of downvote on the article are the double of the vote x))

and the amount of vote that the comment defending aespa have

clearly prove that koreans disagree with this statement :)

it’s aespan fans that disagree. Or else Aespa new song would be #1 if knetz still like them . If Aespa has to promote to have their songs rise then they are on level of Stacy, Nmixx.

Both I’ve and Newjeans released their prelease with barely any teaser unlike Aespa that spammed it everywhere. They still landed #1 within two days even before promotion two weeks laters

He must be a huge lsf fan, got paid well from hybe or works for hybe. They are ofc one of the top groups currently but clearly not on ive and njns level, nor even aespa's level.

he is on hybe payroll lol.

New-I-Le is not catchy, do better journalist

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I agree that they tried to throw LSFM in there. Media play.

But, we all know it's New Jeans and IVE.

I would have agreed a week ago, but they just broke the record for highest sales for a GG.

Didn't expect that either, but there we go

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I would have agreed a week ago, but they just broke the record for highest sales for a GG.

Didn't expect that either, but there we go

if that's the counter point, then aespa is going to easily break whatever record they set. the sales are a joke right now.

This is why you shouldn't release a trash song as a pre-release.

However the article is 1 week too early. We will know by next week if Aespa are 1 hit wonders or they just had a trash song as a pre-release.

It's ridiculous how the narrative changes when it's a big4 group when I remember clearly how people said Ive still wasn't a top group after Love Dive and Eleven. Once you're big4 you don't even have to prove yourself, just chart decently and sell and you're automatically top tier.

South Korea trying to forget aespa like that is bullshit. They have massive achievements, some bigger than any gg listed, one cb that charted poorly doesnt erase their brand power.

Even if aespa wasn't mentioned, g idle would be a much better fit. Lsf is a top group, but still not on the same level as the others, this sound like mediaplay.

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I would have agreed a week ago, but they just broke the record for highest sales for a GG.

Didn't expect that either, but there we go

I think physicals matter less without GP recognition imo.

Boy groups sell a lot, and people still say they have no idea who they are.

I think the top GG requires physical sales, digital sales, and public recognition to be fully recognized, but that's just my opinion.

They’re all peers, aespa just hit first

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you have to be kidding? sometimes I think you are troll imagine putting G idle, new jeans and G idle before blackpink the president called blackpink Korea's representative they are in the top 3 for gallup or Forbe's Korea you really underestimate blackpink

also they are obviously talking about 4th generation there

jisoo alone getting as much ul as a trendy gg and reaching top2 with no promo in her first week

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Well i put BP in Tier 1B because they havent had a #1 hit in almost three years, no RAKs, PAKs, or national hits since HYLT/LSG.

Ive, Idle and NJ have all had HUGE UL peaks as well (550k-650k) since 2022, which is amazing since ULs have been way down compared to 2020. Tomboy, Hybe Boy, Attention, Ditto, Love Dive, Afterlike, and I AM are all national hits or soon to be, and Nude earned PAKs. Pink Venom, Shut Down, and Flower peaked at #2 or #3 and 400-500k ULs. I'm just keeping it real

nobody

I MEAN THAT

nobody in korea think gidle is above bp, not here, , in other dimention cube can create or anywhere else

this is why n1 alone dont make a n1 gg bc gidle had 2 and it change almost nothing for them

ive had all of 2022 to pass bp on gallup and it didnt work, all 3 had all these years to be over them in FORBES and it's still not happening

there is reason bp is the only 3r gen gg in top3 in melon search when their cmb was nearly 7-8 months ago, I dont even need to use ive, nj or other 4th gen gg, I can just use twice as example, a gg korea gave 9 FUCKING HITS and what they did after that, drop them

FANS ARGUING OVER WHO IS BETTER OR WHO IS MORE POPULAR, WHEN THEY ALL SUCK! GET OFF THE STAGE ALL OF YOU! OFF!!!!

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you have to be kidding? sometimes I think you are troll imagine putting G idle, new jeans and G idle before blackpink the president called blackpink Korea's representative they are in the top 3 for gallup or Forbe's Korea you really underestimate blackpink

also they are obviously talking about 4th generation there

Blackpink is 4th gen gg

what??? why are they b list? what is their current ranking in domestic digitals and global digitals?