Biggest mistakes in Kpop?
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They're completely fine as they are right now
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Who cares. It has been many years already, and they did well for themselves.
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Whachu want her to do-- stay in Korea and guest star on I LIVE ALONE all that time?
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Joy nope because she was not that good at dancing , so it leaves the option only Irene and Seulgi. Maybe Seulgi but I remembered pann girls criticizes seulgi visual when she was a center in ICC. So I'd say SM did the right thing put Irene as center.
Imo SM mistakes is debuting Yeri a year later, can't help also Yeri not that talented (average in singing & dancing) inviting more criticisms even small thing get scrutinized by jealous pann girls.
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Wolf By Exo
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Uninspired Jealousy as title track after MX just had finally gained attention and earned their 1st win after doing something different with Dramarama
Boring and generic Alligator as title track after MX regained great attention and won plenty music shows with Shoot Out
It's almost as if Starship was afraid of their success so they tried to sabotage their own group
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The existance of TS ent and MBK ent.
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It was not someone's decision. Irene wanted to be a center, so she put a lot of efforts to reach this goal.
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I agree with this
She needs to upgrade her facial expressions
Like she’s okay but she’s kinda boring to watch, you feel me
She needs a bag of stage presence, like when I watch rv’s stages I barely notice her until her part comes on or like when I see monster I always be looking at Seulgi instead of Irene yk
so I feel like she could work on those a lil bit, but I’m only 16, Irene is gonna be 30 in a few days so she can do whatever she likes she’s grown but I’m just saying that she could use a lil work
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I agree with this
She needs to upgrade her facial expressions
Like she’s okay but she’s kinda boring to watch, you feel me
She needs a bag of stage presence, like when I watch rv’s stages I barely notice her until her part comes on or like when I see monster I always be looking at Seulgi instead of Irene yk
so I feel like she could work on those a lil bit, but I’m only 16, Irene is gonna be 30 in a few days so she can do whatever she likes she’s grown but I’m just saying that she could use a lil work
I second this, I thought about the same thing while watching one of their Psycho stage, she had barely any facial expressions and when it came to dancing she didn't stand out (at least for me) I caught myself focusing to other members while she was on the screen.
Compared to other group's centers I think she lacks charisma and stage presence
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I'll nominate: JYPE sending Wonder Girls off to the United States when they were at their peak in Korea.
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Not letting BangPink collab happen...
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that all white dude group.
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Every group debuting but my faves :)
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Didn't you call yourself a "pure music stan"?
1. That was an obvious sarcasm.
2. Yes, I mainly stan for music as almost everyone in the forum would have known by now.
3. I would be delighted if more people heard about EXO and their music is among the best and could have easily won over West if SM cared for them. But alas.
4. Your reply doesn't make any sense since me wishing better things for EXO does not make a success Stan (Opposite of Music stan, if that's what you were trying to imply also since I made the "Pure Music Stan" joke on Success Stan related thread)
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1. That was an obvious sarcasm.
2. Yes, I mainly stan for music as almost everyone in the forum would have known by now.
3. I would be delighted if more people heard about EXO and their music is among the best and could have easily won over West if SM cared for them. But alas.
4. Your reply doesn't make any sense since me wishing better things for EXO does not make a success Stan (Opposite of Music stan, if that's what you were trying to imply also since I made the "Pure Music Stan" joke on Success Stan related thread)
I didn't call you a success stan
but you made a thread about being proud of exo-ls for not caring about numbers or anything like that, unlike what they did a few years ago, but they would have had to make a push themselves in order for you to get your wish for exo to do beyond what has been done in the west.
So it's fine if you are above all that and just want to enjoy yourselves instead of spreading but it doesn't match what you want.
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I didn't call you a success stan
but you made a thread about being proud of exo-ls for not caring about numbers or anything like that, like they did a few years ago, but they would have had to make a push themselves in order for you to get your wish for exo to do beyond what has been done in the west.
So it's fine if you are above all that but it doesn't match what you want.
That was for now, wasn't it?
If SM promoted EXO in the west, Streaming number, I would argue, would still be relatively "Organic" (albeit the views and all will increase definitely but not to a crazy extent) in the sense that, they are not just there for numbers, It will show how much people "Listened" to the song rather than "Streamed".
This is a "What If" scenario so I guess we'll never know what would have happened, I am saying based on how I know my fandom.
Anyway, Have a good day.
But that's just me.
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That was for now, wasn't it?
If SM promoted EXO in the west, Streaming number, I would argue, would still be relatively "Organic" (albeit the views and all will increase definitely but not to a crazy extent) in the sense that, they are not just there for numbers, It will show how much people "Listened" to the song rather than "Streamed".
This is a "What If" scenario so I guess we'll never know what would have happened, I am saying based on how I know my fandom.
Anyway, Have a good day.
But that's just me.
I am a little confused about what you are trying to say but I think the numbers are not organic even now.
Maybe the views are not high but the Korean charts showed that the numbers were to a large degree because of streaming. Nothing wrong with that , it's the kpop way afterall,
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That was for now, wasn't it?
If SM promoted EXO in the west, Streaming number, I would argue, would still be relatively "Organic" (albeit the views and all will increase definitely but not to a crazy extent) in the sense that, they are not just there for numbers, It will show how much people "Listened" to the song rather than "Streamed".
This is a "What If" scenario so I guess we'll never know what would have happened, I am saying based on how I know my fandom.
Anyway, Have a good day.
But that's just me.
Organic, unlike others hmm?
It makes much more sense for the fandom to act like they did a few years ago when the group was active as a full group, if they had gotten a push like the company's newer groups, than to act the same way the fandom is now when circumstances have changed.
"Wonders beyond anything there ever would be" was open to interpretation.
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