IVE joined several university festivals in After Like promotion, and one thing sure their song save those stages. its don't fill like a festival performance they don't interact audience when they performed music. another thing is their dress also not favorable or allow festival performance. starship you need to know where your artist goes for performances and make a dress for that event.
IS IVE and Starship Need to Learn Stage present?
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They've interacted with fans during songs, mostly with Gaeuls part in After Like. Their stage presence in general is just really underrated though
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No offense but I actually don't know what you are saying
I just say that does not give the concert feeling, they can dance performed 2 songs and 2 songs just sing with fans.
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can you elaborate or give examples of such event
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I dont think they are worse than most other 4th Gen groups especially the other new ones.
only if you compair them to veterans like Psy they seem bland to me.
I don't compare I just stayed they need to learn that Music shows, Award Show and concerts, and festival stages are different. you need a different approach and performance strategy for those.
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I don't really keep up with them so idk
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I just say that does not give the concert feeling, they can dance performed 2 songs and 2 songs just sing with fans.
Why do you need to have 2 songs to just sing with fans, when the fans sing the entire song for the dance songs?
Like why do they need to purposely have a song where they "GUYS LET ME HEAR YOU SING I CANT HEAR YOU LOUDER" and jump jump on the stage and point the mic to the audience, just to "prove stage present"?
Seems like you have a very 1 sided view of what stage presence is and that is not dancing and WOOHOOO YAYYY-ing on stage
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Why do you need to have 2 songs to just sing with fans, when the fans sing the entire song for the dance songs?
Like why do they need to purposely have a song where they "GUYS LET ME HEAR YOU SING I CANT HEAR YOU LOUDER" and jump jump on the stage and point the mic to the audience, just to "prove stage present"?
what I want that's not important and I say that 2 songs are just as an example and don't remember the last university festival name but they didn't use the full or font stage only one-time Gaeul go there.
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what more interaction do they need when the audience is already singing the whole song with them?
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OP feels IVE had little to no effort on the stage, and solely depend on the audience and their viral song.
OP subtly mocking IVE and starship -
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if you see this video when they sing love dive at 5 minute they don't dance just sing it happen by accident because they plan to perform this at last
Wonyoung's sex appeal and charm is crazy it goes over the camera
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well, I mean when IVE can't be dragged down by 'live singing' again, seem like people using other things that they can find.
even though Idk if OP knows what stage presence is?I'm confused like there isn't stage presence because they didn't use the walkway part of the stage
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Well, I can understand what OP meant if you'll see NewJean performing like this at festivals
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I'm confused like there isn't stage presence because they didn't use the walkway part of the stage
Yeah but it's a dumb point. Why would you need to hype up the crowd and increase engagement when the crowd is already hyped and engaged?
well, maybe OP will acknowledge their "stage present" if OP see Wonyoung do a 720 degree backflip? or Yujin jumping to the crowd?
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I not sure what more you want from them tbh, you gave us examples sure and I still don't see it.
I know you made the thread about IVE but do you have another group to conspire what you see as having good engagement and stage presence?
Because the event you linked looks fine for me (and from the sounds of it everyone else in this thread) so I just want to understand what aspect are you not feeling.
Stage Presence?
Filling the stage? not using all of the stage?
The crowd not "popping" enough? not giving crowd interactions or enough of them?
Breaking from the choreo to make the event more personal?
I just wanna understand that's all.
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Ive was definitely the weakest of the 4th gen trio that went, but I mean if your question is "do they have to" then no, they don't. Plenty of kpop groups are extremely successful with mediocre skills or stage presence. As ever, what you need is catchy music and visuals. Everything else is just a bonus.
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, and one thing sure their song save those stages. its don't fill like a festival performance they don't interact audience when they performed music.
what you're saying doesn't make sense.
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I think OP should learn how to spell first before criticising anyone.
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Dunno what you mean Liz alone ATE everyone and their moms here in terms of stage presence. Made the crowd scream 0:50
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Well, I can understand what OP meant if you'll see NewJean performing like this at festivals
External Content youtu.beContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.ok but when the chanting at the beginning of attention ended and the music started it gave me chills when hanni was in the centre and executed that dance move so sharp urgh she’s so good
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I feel people are being a bit harsh on OP. None of their replies in this thread have been rude and it seems their genuinely trying to make themselves understood.
I don’t think Ive’s performance is worse than other rookie kpop groups. They focus on the choreography and don’t interact much with the audience. It’s not fatal to their popularity in any way but if they want to become top performers and give amazing festival and concert stages it’s a skill they’ll have to learn.
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I didn't watch any of the festival performances, but I agree with the person who said the songs and their appearance matters a lot more anyway.
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well, I mean when IVE can't be dragged down by 'live singing' again, seem like people using other things that they can find.
even though Idk if OP knows what stage presence is?IVE has a crazy amount of GP popularity and chart staying power that normally isn't seen in groups this early in their career.
I guess fans of some other groups are just jealous.
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i think OP need to learn English/grammar
It is 'stage presence'
I was confused so much by the title
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They don't need they're so popular right now. And people don't care about talent for women, they only care about visual. So until they look good they'll have no problem, that's the most important right now.
To me this sounds really mean towards women. But most fans are even women themself. So why do they seem to encourage this behavior even more than the men?
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Love Dive and After Like are not the type of songs that have fast bpm to be hyped about or needs you to jump around while singing or belt several high notes like most kpop songs in general. . They are fantastic songs with lower ceiling on how the performance could improve the songs if you get what I mean....
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To me this sounds really mean towards women. But most fans are even women themself. So why do they seem to encourage this behavior even more than the men?
It's hard i know but it's true.
If you take the most popular GG, Blackpink, Twice and the most popular right now Newjeans, IVE it is certainly not the talent that is the factor of their popularity. Any of them have good singers but all of them have beautiful girls. Visual matter more for female idols than anything else.
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You don’t hype a crowd with love dive and after like tbh. The choreo are hit or miss though love dive was good, eleven great but after like is bad.
Also keep in mind they’re performing for the 6178 times in a month, they have been working hard, they can’t have the same energy for an entire month.
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Love Dive and After Like are not the type of songs that have fast bpm to be hyped about or needs you to jump around while singing or belt several high notes like most kpop songs in general. . They are fantastic songs with lower ceiling on how the performance could improve the songs if you get what I mean....
Lies
They should go like
NARCISSISTIC MY GOD I LOVE IT SEOROREUL BICHUN BAM
BAM
BAM
BAM
BAM
JUMP
JUMP
JUMP
JUMP
PUT YOUR FKING HANDS IN THE AIR AND LET ME HEAR YOU GO
SUM CHAMKKO LOVE DIVE
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LALALALALALALALALALA YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH
JUMP
JUMP
JUMP
JUMP
Rookie stageless present girls better learn
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Lies
They should go like
NARCISSISTIC MY GOD I LOVE IT SEOROREUL BICHUN BAM
BAM
BAM
BAM
BAM
JUMP
JUMP
JUMP
JUMP
PUT YOUR FKING HANDS IN THE AIR AND LET ME HEAR YOU GO
SUM CHAMKKO LOVE DIVE
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LALALALALALALALALALA YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH
JUMP
JUMP
JUMP
JUMP
Rookie stageless present girls better learn
Proceed to throw random aegyo, narcistic my god I love it lmao
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