Do you think it's right for big companies to sue minors? (Poll)

i have conflicting feelings about this. on one hand, suing a minor feels icky to me because if whatever they're talking about is true and they're basically being sued so they're forced to shut up, that's not okay. but on another hand, if the minor is spouting some crazy made up shit to ruin someone else's life, they should still be held accountable for their actions and deal with the consequences

being a minor doesn't mean you never have to face any consequences because you're underage. but a big company using their power and influence to intimidate or manipulate a child is pretty bad. so idk. i think it depends on the situation

Depends on what they did, but what actually happens to the minor if you sue them?

They should face some consequences but none that would ruin the rest of their lives.

I'm really not all about the extent to which korean companies sue people period.

it's hard to judge with no details

any examples please ?

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it's hard to judge with no details

any examples please ?

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2022/04/source-music-reportedly-sues-a-minor-who-raised-school-bullying-allegation-against-le-sserafims-kim-garam

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it's hard to judge with no details

any examples please ?

I think this is about Source/Hybe suing that minor who made allegations against Garam

Honestly I've seen minors say the most vile stuff online because they feel protected behind being anonymous, and when they get called out they use their age to act as if they shouldn't have consequences for their actions. Lots of people think they wouldn't know better but majority of time they do and people should stop acting like 14 year olds have no responsibility for their actions. The only ones I feel sorry for are the parents because they have to be the ones to pay for their kid's stupidity. Obviously it's different if the child is innocent, but otherwise they should see that actions have consequences from early on.

Usually not, but I guess it depends.

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sue their parents, boom solved the mystery

I think the parents are already the ones being sued on behalf of the child. I'm not 100% sure though, it would just make more sense to me.

You don’t sue minors. You ask the adults owning these websites to moderate better and the adults who pounce on idols for random rumors on the internet to do better.

yes. i was a minor once but i was never vile. just because you enjoy anonymity doesn't mean you should bully people and spread lies that can ruin their life. sue them, maybe they learn something from it and start respecting others.

i think it's common sense to treat others how you want to be treated.

Even in Korea, i just cant believe minors can be sued directly...Source is going after their parents, right?

most of the time it's parents fault that they did not raise their children well so they should be sued

but there could be case where the children is naturally psycho

. . . Yes suing those f*cking kids is always morality correct

They are bold enough to attack idols online spread rumors and lies and say some of the most disgusting shit, making fun of Wendy's accident saying it should happen to Giselle and Karina these bastards be at least 15 yr olds they know better. I've seen 17 yr olds saying this shit I hope companies start suing international fans one day.

Minors are not above the law, but they are not judged/sentenced on the same scale as adults (in sane countries anyway). And in cases like these its the parents that will have to pay up.

Its unfortunate in many cases where something actually did happen, but still you cant just accuse someone for something and potentially ruin their life without having some sort of proof of it.

I see people commenting that just because someone is a minor doesn't mean they should spread lies that can ruin lives. The problem then becomes how can one be sure that it's truly defamation or if it's companies attempting to silence victims in order to save a career? Because in that case you have powerful companies attempting to silence minors who truly may be victims of school bullying. I'm speaking generally here by the way.

It's a really complicated issue for me to say whether I fully believe it's right or wrong.

After a certain age, being a minor should not excuse you from consequences of your actions if it's clear that you can tell the difference between right and wrong. People try to use this excuse all the time on Twitter and the fact that they're aware enough to even try this excuse tells you that they absolutely know that they're doing something wrong.

But the companies dont know if the accuser is a minor?

They sue the anon online accuser, sometimes they are the minor they claim they are, sometimes they are a 40 year old sitting behind their pc who gets a kick out of this.

Based on similar types of defamation cases, it is investigated by police. It is not treated as a civil case where whoever got the best lawyer wins. So the minor getting sued is not completely defenseless.

But I do agree in some cases it could be icky.

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Young kids shouldn't be online without parental supervision or a sibling or something I think it's neglectful to expect strangers to teach your kids morals and put up with them

Idk man

you cant supervise everything 14-18 year olds do online

They do need some privacy from their parents for their online activities

+ I think kids could be affected by so many other factors these days that parents influence is diminishing rapidly

I agree with the people here who are saying the parents should get sued.

Sure, the kid may be doing bad things that get them be to sued and they should be held accountable. However, it is the parent's duty to teach their kid and monitor their behaviour. So they need to be apart of the lawsuit too.

If it’s something that could ruin someone’s life then yes. No one cares that minors are spreading rumors to ruin people’s career until they find out it’s a minor. If it’s something small then no.

Side note how much do minors get sued for?

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Idk man

you cant supervise everything 14-18 year olds do online

They do need some privacy from their parents for their online activities

+ I think kids could be affected by so many other factors these days that parents influence is diminishing rapidly

There are more software and ways you can supervise your kid online coming out all the time, I think google now has something like that. Besides, internet safety for children has been a huge discussion. They may not work for supervising everything but they're a step in the right direction.

The last sentence is true though. Obviously, not everything is in the parent's control.

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If it’s something that could ruin someone’s life then yes. No one cares that minors are spreading rumors to ruin people’s career until they find out it’s a minor. If it’s something small then no.

Side note how much do minors get sued for?

Thats the thing from what I read on other defamation cases its treated like a criminal case not a civil case.

No one wins money, but if the verdicts goes against someone they will get probation and a criminal record.

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There are more software and ways you can supervise your kid online coming out all the time, I think google now has something like that. Besides, internet safety for children has been a huge discussion. They may not work for supervising everything but they're a step in the right direction.

The last sentence is true though. Obviously, not everything is in the parent's control.

I mean you can supervise your kid to make sure they are not taken advantage of online

You cant supervise them to the point you can catch them shit posting online

Alot of these false exposes are essentially just shit posting online

As a parent if my kid gets sued in these cases, the first thing I worry about it is if they were really a victim of bullying. If they have a good account of someone bullying them, I wont worry about them posting about it online. I would fucking go after the person who bullied my kid and bleed them dry. If they confess they made it up, I would contact the company and make a deal with them with my kid apologizing and taking the statement back.

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Nope, defamation is a civil case. It can be sued in criminal cases, but by itself, defamation is considered a civil matter at least the the USA.

I know thats the case in US, but if you read on Cube suing for Sojin and JYP for Lia, it reads like a criminal case.

The cops were investigating the cases, which is not what happens in the civil cases.

Another point was that they were investigating to the point beyond reasonable doubt. Which again is not much of a civil case.

I may be wrong