Educate me: What is "blackfish" and are KPOP groups really guilty of this?
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What 'Blackfishing' means and why people do itThe term "Blackfishing" describes behavior by White people -- often entertainers or social media influencers -- who appear to be imitating the look of Black…amp.cnn.com -
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it really is wild watching little mix’s mvs now and knowing she’s not black like she always appeared to be lol
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Yes kpop idols do borrow fashion or artistically as is obvious but I don’t believe they’re “black fishing”. Black fishing means you look racially ambiguous or “black” by virtue of the way you dress, the make up you do etc.
K-pop’s beauty standards are very Korean. They’re not trying to look like another race even if they’re heavily borrowing from it.
Kpop fans probably mean to use appropriation and not black fishing.
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it really is wild watching little mix’s mvs now and knowing she’s not black like she always appeared to be lol
For real.
Like I actually followed Little Mix all the way from their X Factor days, and for some reason over the years I totally forgot how she looked like before and actually thought she was black
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what kpop artists do is more appropriation than blackfishing imo
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Nah. Kpop sometimes mixes up african american culture and hiphop culture but they aren’t blackfishing. It’s more a misguided attempt to look like “serious” rappers.
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Yes kpop idols do borrow fashion or artistically as is obvious but I don’t believe they’re “black fishing”. Black fishing means you look racially ambiguous or “black” by virtue of the way you dress, the make up you do etc.
K-pop’s beauty standards are very Korean. They’re not trying to look like another race even if they’re heavily borrowing from it.
Kpop fans probably mean to use appropriation and not black fishing.
you learn something new everyday
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Speaking of smokey eyes, lets appreciate the OG queen of smokey eye makeup
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Yep, bullshit is a good description to sum it all up.
Just some poor people trying to create hate and scandals.
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Speaking of smokey eyes, lets appreciate the OG queen of smokey eye makeup
She's getting married soon, I'm so happy for her
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"Catfish" is an actual species of fish that has whiskers like a cat; see below. I'm not sure where the slang term comes from.
I got curious and looked it up. Lol
Still not clear how it’s related to people lying about their identity online… but as somebody who likes fishing this was an interesting info.
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I was thinking she had descendants from Central or South America...
that's an stereotype there are latinos that also have european ancestry
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Blackfishing used to be when you try to pass yourself off as black
Now it’s just having a tan & heavy accessories
Just like how cultural appropriation used to be when someone would take someone else’s culture and credit it as theirs, or even mock it. Now simply wearing something that another totally different demographic generally has is considered cultural appropriation
Every actual issue ends up being expanded into some BS that far left wannabe activist online who just want to seek woke praise and an excuse to bully stoop down to
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Kpop fans: Idols shouldn’t borrow stuff from other cultures, it’s offensive
Also Kpop fans: *literally involve themselves in Korean culture every day*
And it’s always being picky too. Like they can use other qualities of East Asian culture or European culture, but anything that happens to come from a black or brown ethnicity must be gatekept
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Kpop fans: Idols shouldn’t borrow stuff from other cultures, it’s offensive
Also Kpop fans: *literally involve themselves in Korean culture every day*
And it’s always being picky too. Like they can use other qualities of East Asian culture or European culture, but anything that happens to come from a black or brown ethnicity must be gatekept
What the heck is brown ethnicity lol
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What the heck is brown ethnicity lol
Ethnicities with…. Predominately brown people
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I don’t think people here really get why “blackfishing” is a problem or even appropriating black culture….
The issue at hand is, black women in particular have been called ugly and less than beautiful compared to other ethnicities because of their genetically common traits of darker skin color, bigger hips, thighs, and fuller lips. Yet when other ethnicities get surgery to have these traits, all of a sudden it’s the new standard of beauty. Example: the kardashian/jenner clan.
And as for appropriation, especially when it comes to speech and how they dress…. black people have been called ghetto just for how they talk and have been refused jobs, been held back in society for how they literally been brought up even if they do get proper education, yet when other ethnicities “appropriate” speech like that all of a sudden it’s “cool” when non-blacks start talking in Ebonics. Right how cool….
Also, I can’t count how many times I’ve cringed in this forum or in real life of straight white people using tea, shade, slayyyy, yassss, kiki, read, etc etc and credit it to some white queen in Ru Paul’s Drag Race. Ru Paul can’t even give proper credit to the originators of these black gay linggos.
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I don’t think people here really get why “blackfishing” is a problem or even appropriating black culture….
The issue at hand is, black women in particular have been called ugly and less than beautiful compared to other ethnicities because of their genetically common traits of darker skin color, bigger hips, thighs, and fuller lips. Yet when other ethnicities get surgery to have these traits, all of a sudden it’s the new standard of beauty. Example: the kardashian/jenner clan.
And as for appropriation, especially when it comes to speech and how they dress…. black people have been called ghetto just for how they talk and have been refused jobs, been held back in society for how they literally been brought up even if they do get proper education, yet when other ethnicities “appropriate” speech like that all of a sudden it’s “cool” when non-blacks start talking in Ebonics. Right how cool….
Also, I can’t count how many times I’ve cringed in this forum or in real life of straight white people using tea, shade, slayyyy, yassss, kiki, read, etc etc and credit it to some white queen in Ru Paul’s Drag Race. Ru Paul can’t even give proper credit to the originators of these black gay linggos.
The solution to this should be ending stigma of black people expressing themselves how they want to & giving them credit when they do. Not gatekeeping everyone else from doing similar things. Cuz like that’s kindergarten logic, “If I can’t have it, then no one can
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I do, which was why I said black & brown instead of just black, cuz Kpop fans make similar accusations for them too
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a catfish is an ugly fish
it means:
lure (someone) into a relationship by means of a fictional online persona.
cos you thought you were dating someone nice and you got a catfish (see the fish above)
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Well that isn’t happening anytime soon since nearly everyone who appropriate black culture can’t even give credit, and also society as a whole find black people to be the least attractive in general.
Example, CL hasn’t given one bit of credit to any black artist yet she based her whole career and persona on “acting black” as if she’s from the ghettos of America. lol ooppp….
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Because a catfish is a fish that looks like a cat. So not a real cat, but an ugly fish… so yeah, someone using a fake persona/photos online then once you see them in person suddenly they’re not what they appear to be.
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To be fair, though, about giving credit, it would be awkward as hell to randomly declare, “Yes, my life is inspired by black people.”
Race isn’t something people want to bring up or focus on unless there is an opportunity to talk about it, as people just want to see each other as people first and foremost. Focusing on it too much makes it seem like we’re fixated too much on skin color as opposed to intrinsic qualities that make us human — transcending race, color, nationality, or ethnicity.
Sometimes it matters more how you treat the people around you and the people you come across regardless of race.
And if there’s an opportunity to speak out in injustices, you take it, just as CL did.
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I don’t think people here really get why “blackfishing” is a problem or even appropriating black culture….
The issue at hand is, black women in particular have been called ugly and less than beautiful compared to other ethnicities because of their genetically common traits of darker skin color, bigger hips, thighs, and fuller lips. Yet when other ethnicities get surgery to have these traits, all of a sudden it’s the new standard of beauty. Example: the kardashian/jenner clan.
Only in countries where black people are not the majority and also weren’t native.
In African countries having any other genetic trait than what they are used too, they will consider you less attractive. I’m African, my parents are from Ghana and over there other ethnicities are considered less attractive. If you live in a country where everyone looks like you, where your beauty standards are specific to your race, you view things differently.
The perspective of this is extremely different if you discuss this with a black African or a black American.
An African sees people from different ethnicities getting bigger lips, hips, braids etc and they see it as appreciation, because that is what they find beautiful as well.
While an American Black person will view this as appropriation and problematic because they have never been the beauty standard.
The only place where people will see black as being ugly is if that place didn’t had black characteristics as their beauty standard.
The only way to get rid of that stigma in a multi-cultural country is to embrace every type of beauty. White characteristics in predominantly white countries became the norm because that’s what has been pushed as a the standard and even minorities tried to fit in. There is now a shift and people see the beauty in other ethnicities too and are copying the looks. This is a good step in the right direction and as long as these people don’t claim they are black or are being disrespectful, why not let them ? Gatekeeping it will never lead to view black fashion or genetic characteristics as beautiful if you won’t allow it to become a beauty standard for everyone too.
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Not true, she always did!
And if there’s an opportunity to speak out in injustices, you take it, just as CL did.
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