Changmin's depressing album sales (because of his marriage)

That sucks

I don’t think you can take that and run with it.

Kai sold more of his first mini than his second and he is not married. I hope.

Nd this was a marriage that people supported

Imagine other marriages people don't support

Geez its weird

Cant imagine denying myself joy of my fav album bc they married

orrrrrr people dont like his music

Well this sucks

The sad thing is he's been in the industry for longer than the majority of kpop fans have been alive and people STILL won't support him settling down with a family

how are we sure it's because of his marriage. Most idols decline after being active for really long

Well, declining 78% of your sales in less than 2 years is really not normal. Something is wrong indeed.

I wonder whether it can be attributed to marriage or other factors???

The hell

For everyone questioning if maybe ~Devil just sucks~ it's so flipping good. Go listen to it.

And also, let's be real here, a shit-ton of kpop fans preorder albums. Day 1 sales are normally huge and you can't say it's because we all know the album is so good; people buy before they even know if it's going to be good or not.

I don't think it's because he got married, it's just because SM Stan must have empty pockets by now. What MAX needs is to try collaborating with artists who are not from their company. He must create an image outside of SM. Jaejoong has done it. Max was always the one who followed the rules and never advertised for himself.

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And also, let's be real here, a shit-ton of kpop fans preorder albums. Day 1 sales are normally huge and you can't say it's because we all know the album is so good; people buy before they even know if it's going to be good or not.

was his last album received well? the one before this one. Cause I notice groups often grow their sales the most after their last album was liked. Maybe that isn't the problem tho, just curious if there's a reason

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I don't think it's because he got married, it's just because SM Stan must have empty pockets by now. What MAX needs is to try collaborating with artists who are not from their company. He must create an image outside of SM. Jaejoong has done it. Max was always the one who followed the rules and never advertised for himself.

Please tell me you don't genuinely believe and aren't trying to say that it's the same people stanning all of SM's artists and buying all of their albums

Correlation is not causation

Looking at Gaon numbers :

Kang Daniel less sales from 1st to 2nd Album

Taemin less sales from 1st to 2nd Album

Kai less sales from 1st to 2nd Album

G dragon less sales from 1st to 2nd album

One of exceptions to this rule was Baekhyun lol. But that’s not the norm.

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Por favor, dime que no crees genuinamente y no estás tratando de decir que son las mismas personas que apoyan a todos los artistas de SM y compran todos sus álbumes.

I see SM fans as a family unit that has many artists to root for as a casual fan. I don't think it's bad. One can see that TVXQ in Japan sells well and it has been shown that the Japanese are equally supportive of Korean comebacks. He is one of the artists who always has a low profile, but for me he is the one that stands out the most in SM.

Kfans are so petty. The way they bullied Sungmin out of Suju

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Taemin less sales from 1st to 2nd Album

ha? Press it sold more than Ace

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I don't think it's because he got married, it's just because SM Stan must have empty pockets by now.

gotta be the weirdest take here

This is comparing first week sales, the only people who buy first week sales are the core fandom

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ha? Press it sold more than Ace

gotta be the weirdest take here

This is comparing first week sales, the only people who buy first week sales are the core fandom

Oh I just saw this

Anyway sales does go down or up album over album for many reasons

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Oh I just saw this

Anyway sales does go down or up album over album for many reasons

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thats less than 1k difference

not 75 percent of your sales

how can you think of them being comparable?

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I see SM fans as a family unit that has many artists to root for as a casual fan. I don't think it's bad. One can see that TVXQ in Japan sells well and it has been shown that the Japanese are equally supportive of Korean comebacks. He is one of the artists who always has a low profile, but for me he is the one that stands out the most in SM.

You're wrong. There are company stans, but all of their groups have their own separate fandoms just like any other company. I don't know where you all come up with these narratives but just look at their artists' sales and the gaps alone should be enough to show that each group has its own fandom.

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thats less than 1k difference

not 75 percent of your sales

how can you think of them being comparable?

So? I listed a range of examples. Some less some more. All of them have various reasons.

The main point was correlation is not causation

That’s a weird and rather misogynistic assumption when no evidence points to that. His marriage has been well received by k-fans. I think you have several things happening here: the album wasn’t really promoted (certainly not the way Chocolate was), the lead single is not as GP-friendly as Chocolate was and I also think the EXO solos are giving people some false expectations on solo performances (particularly for a second Gen soloist). It would be interesting to see what sales were like for other second Gen soloist’s second albums.

I am surprised to see he didn’t see a lift coming out of the SMTOWN winter concert where people who may not have been familiar with him might have been interested enough to purchase.

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I see SM fans as a family unit that has many artists to root for as a casual fan. I don't think it's bad. One can see that TVXQ in Japan sells well and it has been shown that the Japanese are equally supportive of Korean comebacks. He is one of the artists who always has a low profile, but for me he is the one that stands out the most in SM.

It doesn’t work like that tho. For example, the average NCT fan is not interested in TVXQ, assuming they even know who they are. TVXQ music, particularly the work as a duo, is not a comparable style to NCT or even EXO for that matter. This idea that people who like one SM group like all SM groups is so far away from the truth..or that the groups are interchangeable. Hell, even SM learned that several times over..

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The point is that if you're roughly selling about the same perhaps a little less, it's not a big deal. If you drop OVER SEVENTY-FIVE PERCENT that's pretty freaking significant and something must have happened. Hmm, what happened? Oh yeah, the marriage

When numbers are that small percents look bad lol but dropping 40-50k or even 70k in sales is common. So yeah not unusual.

They gave up way too easy, I mean they clearly still have a chance...

Wow the sale decrease is huge kpop fans (the Korean fans ) will never grow up no matter their age it's really sad

Tbh i also think it's bc of his marriage. The drop is huge considering his numbers and he wasn't involved in any type of scandal neither his music is bad so the most "logic" reason it is indeed the one op said.

Sure we can have several ideas etc, but this is kpop and lbr idols do get hate and boycotted for dating and even more for MARRYING... The support online was great, but offline is showing a sad view.

But i could be wrong... Who knows....

And Devil is SOTY contender.

His music is top quality and he is insanely talented. But IMO it's better for old idols to release digital albums only. Most fans of old idols in the industry that aged with idols, won't buy useless physical albums anymore. It only exists as collectibles or as means of support. It's all fun and nice at the beginning but those who have been stans for more than 10 years just won't possibly keep doing that all their lives. Probably the percentage of fans who still kept buying useless physicals for Chocolate was the delulu who thought they had a chance hence most went away after the marriage announcement.

If this is the case for why long-term fans are not as interested, it would be really shit…. But I don’t know if you can cast-iron say it’s because of that.

I do also wonder if it’s just that two years is a long time in Kpop between albums and a lot of Kpop fans seems fairly fickle and impatient, so without frequent releases, will sometimes stop following with ad much attention?