Kpop is DEAD (Free education inside)

I actually agree with your 2nd and 4th point and really curious to see how the point 1 play out in the future(agree with you, however).

lol i only agree with number one a little. Would be much healthier for the industry to have real competition in the BG space. That's where the devoted fans and real revenue from CD and merch and tix sales come from.

I think even BH might recognize a potential landmine for Kpop when BTS eventually retires. What's gonna happen to them as a company and the industry as a whole? BH is a publicly traded company now, they NEED to diversify like NOW to prepare for future market. Armys will leave Kpop when BTS leaves, same with Blinks, Onces, etc.

The labels must create excitement for the next generation of idols to capture the next generation of fans.

i cant read but im sure u r right, i trust u x

i would adx that on addition to 4 that china is slowly building their own c-idol groups lesrning from and building upon the korean training methods

lowkey agree with some points tbh

I sort of agree with the first one. I don't like how they say that BTS paved the way because I feel like it's the same thing as naming them the "Rulers of KPOP" for some reason. I love BTS but I don't think they paved the way. Everyone has their own reasons that they became a KPOP fan.

regarding point 1: maybe, but only for the BG side of Kpop, I dont see many GG stans caring about BG

regarding point 3: the weakest and most subjective point, you will find this exact resentment in any dicussion of old people talking about newer music

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I know! They always come into my threads and just post an acorn with the phrase "I'm just here for acorns".

Trolls >>> squirrels.

Who would have thought, that the great and mighty trolls would be surpassed by cute little animals?

I think Kpop will continue to exist, but will certainly evolve, just as it has evolved from

the “yesterday” of Girls Generation and Bigbang.

When Jordan retired, the NBA definitely took a hit, but then it rebuilt itself with cultural and entertainment icons like Kobe and later Lebron. Just they was another Jordan (Lebron), there will be another BTS-type group but it will certainly be different, as Lebron is a very different persona than Jordan.

With the globalization of culture and the nichefication of the music scene, I think Kpop will continue to be relevant but will definitely evolve. For example, if I only want to listen to Kpop r&b bg, streaming and social make it a lot easier to discover and enjoy even more than even a few years ago. However, it also means I play in the same musical sandbox and don’t tend to discover artists outside of what I like. This narrowing and nichefication of genres is part of why even the #1s on pop charts in the West are selling a fraction of the albums they sold 5 or 10 years ago.

So I think there will have to be a different way to view success - is it streaming or social buzz or views solely, with less emphasis on record sales?

Artists are continuing to find success using newer platforms, which I think will challenge the Kpop industry and its current tactics but the industry has also shown that it’s not afraid to cut bait on things or develop groups that aren’t really focused on the Korean GP but with an eye towards a global market.

I agree with the point of oversaturation

I can agree with your argument

I was surprised about point 2. Fifty new groups in a week? That's insane

I actually agree with your points Drew.

Korea isn’t really interested in idol groups that much anymore.

I agree with this. That's why my interest in K pop is waning.

Quote from Drew_B

I know! They always come into my threads and just post an acorn with the phrase "I'm just here for acorns".

Trolls >>> squirrels.

Ok, people will come with the whole squirrel thingy, only in case the thread is a very weak trolling, or just bad, as you can see no one is doing that here. Why? Because this thread is actually good, and it enriches our understanding of kpop.

Now, commenting about your post, I 100% agree with it, but I have some observations regarding some points

Point 2 - Today there is lot more competition, but some groups can still get big, if they target markets in specific (example: Blackswan focusing on Latin America). But I understand your point, alot of Ents showing up, just for a piece of the cake, and we have like tens of groups to pick from, so it gets hard, for both the parties (we, to much groups , may cause confusion, them, to much competition)

Point 4 - About China, they still way behind Korea. Like, nowadays Korea has the lead worldwide, be it on music, movies, dramas, etc. While China is slowly going international, but they don't have the same appeal as or fellow Koreans do. I don't how to explain why, but maybe due to China being more closed culturally/as a society than Korea.

Like, they have a huge firewall set up, so we don't have direct access to them. Lmao, for me, it was so hard one time to find mvs of chinese duo I was looking for, I literally spent days looking for reuploads from some people in youtube.

There is always some kind of barrier when trying to "know" more about them, while in kpop, its almost invisible.

For China to succeed in the west, they would really need to use our platforms, be it twitter, Instagram, youtube, etc (which, would be kinda hard, since they are so "separate" from the western medias, especially nowadays, and because of the said firewall). they would need to work even more on their other branches of entertainment (dramas, movies, etc), and promote their stuff somehow, because its easier to find kpop be accident (be it on a meme or a movie scene) than cpop.

5 point - About Twice, only recently I took knowledge of their slow downfall, and its kind of weird, because even with SNSD being huge back in the day, Twice seem bigger (at least from what I could getter), so when they actually fade out, it will be caos on kpop (specially in Korea), so now I'm more alert about this issue.

And if all your points are right, and the kpop reset really happen (this will just be a new phase, kpop won't die, it will just be born again from the ashes), I think it will be for the good, because imo, most of the 3rd gen was an error, but the 4th actually fixed a lot of what the 3rd gen did wrong, but I won't get too much into it.

yoo why do i agree with all of these tf

I agree with oversaturation bit