Its a show by a kpop company
so yeah
Kpop ripped off Japanese concepts in the 90s.
Japan is super strict with copyright and it's harder for international fans to find regularly subbed content, thus limiting J-pop's international reach.
Japanese entertainment companies are now using models K-pop has perfected for their newer groups.
Full circle.
Well, they're following the dance practice trend at least. Two big Jpop groups are doing that nowadays.
Display MoreKpop ripped off Japanese concepts in the 90s.
Japan is super strict with copyright and it's harder for international fans to find regularly subbed content, thus limiting J-pop's international reach.
Japanese entertainment companies are now using models K-pop has perfected for their newer groups.
Full circle.
Thisssss... SM basically married the Motown system and the Johnnys system together to create kpop as we know it.
This is FNC Japanese kpop Nizi Project. Also, itโs quite offensive for you to say J-pop is following K-pop trends when K-pop took their whole identity. Even copying their animeโs for their Movies and dramas 
Japanese music charts are full with a lot of rock bands and different genres as well, why do people forget those?
I love how Japan is keeping the rock tradition alive, literally the best genre of pop music ever made 
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This is why i think JYPE is being completely moronic by not promoting Itzy more in Japan, Itzy's music has a lot more rock influence than most other groups.
Well, they're following the dance practice trend at least. Two big Jpop groups are doing that nowadays.
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Super cute, you cant deny that these choreo vids are a smart way to market your groups.
Japanese music charts are full with a lot of rock bands and different genres as well, why do people forget those?
i wonder the same. i've been following japanese charts more lately and the amount of boy/girl groups (with some exceptions) on spotify/apple music top 100 is really small. the charts are basically rock or pop bands, soloists, yoasobi and bts lmao
Its a show by a kpop company
so yeah
It's a FNC group.
Thanks i was too lazy to look them up lol. I just really enjoyed the choreo.
Yes, I have noticed the dance practices on YouTube and even the Tiktoks. Seems they are slowly trying to follow the global approach that Kpop took.
Maybe Japanese labels are realizing the same thing as Korean labels. Their respective domestic populations are skewing older and older, with less folks having kids. In fact i think their populations are shrinking or at least close to it.
They're gonna be highly dependent on foreign revenue in a decade or two or be forced to broaden the appeal of Kpop and Jpop groups to older demos.
I actually listened/listen to more Japanese music than Kpop and the charts are much more diverse than the Kpop or Korean charts. I still listen to a tons of artists and I follow it occasionally.
itโs quite offensive for you to say J-pop is following K-pop trends when K-pop took their whole identity. Even copying their animeโs for their Movies and dramas
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How is Itzyโs music rock influenced? Like how? I think NiziU is exactly what Japanese people like when stanning pop bands. I think kpop is too perfect for them as in too clean. I could see Dreamcatcher as being successful there but I am
not into Jpop (or bands) I am more in the alternative rock pop department lmao
I actually see Japan as far FAR more skewed towards rock, and particularly the harder side of rock and metal than what is traditionally offered within the confines of Kpop.
Whether there are some music execs who are trying to focus on a poppier side of thingsโฆ well, I dunno, I see that as a more general pop thing rather than K pop.
How is Itzyโs music rock influenced? Like how? I think NiziU is exactly what Japanese people like when stanning pop bands. I think kpop is too perfect for them as in too clean. I could see Dreamcatcher as being successful there but I am
not into Jpop (or bands) I am more in the alternative rock pop department lmao
Lotta rock in their B sides plus Wannabe chorus. A couple of these are straight out rock songs, while others are mixed. The mellower songs in Crazy In Love like Mirror are structured like straight up power ballads like Mirror, others sometimes disguised with trap beats like in Love Is.
Display MoreLotta rock in their B sides plus Wannabe chorus. A couple of these are straight out rock songs, while others are mixed. The mellower songs in Crazy In Love like Mirror are structured like straight up power ballads like Mirror, others sometimes disguised with trap beats like in Love Is.
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The use of rock elements =\= having a rock sound. They are more like British new pop that used a lot of rock elements mixed with pop elements. Japanese rock is really different from โWesternโ rock. It uses a lot more elements that we would call โalternativeโ. The Jpop โrockโ that we know is mostly like visual
key rock which is a special genre of Japan
Japanese music charts are full with a lot of rock bands and different genres as well, why do people forget those?
Every time I see Billboard or Oricon:rock band, soloist, Johnny's group, 46/48 group, pop band, indie band, BTS. It's so diverse. There're always different musicians every week on the chart.
That's just a show by a FNC entertainment. If you watch the show, they even speak in Korean sometimes too. It's basically like Nizi Project but I heard the system is pretty bad.
I do think Japanese is slowly beginning to follow Kpop trends, although that is mostly started because of JKpop groups like Niziu, JO1, and now INI which is created by Koreans. Jpop itself is still far from what Kpop is like right now, because most music shows sets in Japan is still configured mostly for bands and soloists and it's not really ideal for idol performances. That's why I always hate whenever JO1 performs on TV because the stages are always so dark and plain, I can barely see the performance itself lmao.
Also, itโs quite offensive for you to say J-pop is following K-pop trends when K-pop took their whole identity. Even copying their animeโs for their Movies and dramas
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If K-pop is mere an imitation of J-pop, why don't you simply follow J-pop? You tune into K-pop instead of J-pop clearly means there is some distinction that is beyond the language. And, just distinction clearly is Korean invention.
Why don't you just quit this forum of counterfeit K-pop and sign in a J-pop one. Oops. I forgot such thing did not exist.
That's just a show by a FNC entertainment. If you watch the show, they even speak in Korean sometimes too. It's basically like Nizi Project but I heard the system is pretty bad.
Nah. It's more similar to Sixteen with major and minor teams. I don't think such system is that bad it's just felt too odd to those familiar with Produce. Also, the execution and the presentation could be better.
I watch videos on youtube where Japanese people talk about this show, and they seem to be really hate that system. They feel like the system and the teacher is just unnecessarily harsh.
Display MoreKpop ripped off Japanese concepts in the 90s.
Japan is super strict with copyright and it's harder for international fans to find regularly subbed content, thus limiting J-pop's international reach.
Japanese entertainment companies are now using models K-pop has perfected for their newer groups.
Full circle.
This exactly. I never understood why Japan is super strict with copyright. It's so limiting.
I watch videos on youtube where Japanese people talk about this show, and they seem to be really hate that system. They feel like the system and the teacher is just unnecessarily harsh.
And, they like GP999's masters who did nothing better? Total bullcrap.
The trainer is just basically textbook Korean survival show dance trainer.
i dont know about this show
i barely see it on the japanese news
im not even sure if they even broadcast it to japanese audience?
in nizi case they broadcast it on hulu
and jo1, INI come from produce 101 japan
i dont know about this show
i barely see it on the japanese news
im not even sure if they even broadcast it to japanese audience?
in nizi case they broadcast it on hulu
and jo1, INI come from produce 101 japan
I believe it's being boardcasted on TV, but it's in the middle of the night. It's not really popular either.
Well, they're following the dance practice trend at least. Two big Jpop groups are doing that nowadays.
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idk about perfume, but akb48 has done quite a few dance practice videos, esp for earlier songs like uza (2014) and flying get (2011)
this isnt really anything new. recently though, a lot of those videos were taken down, but they were reuploaded by other peopleuza for instance, even had a "dance version" of the mv (that has like 5x the views of the actual mv)
here's a reuploaded dance practice video of beginner (2011)
here's one for river (2009)
the reason you wont find these anymore (only mirrored versions uploaded to avoid copyright strike) is
a. akb48 is going through rebranding because the 46 groups have built a much better image than them (they were set up as rival/sister groups) so they're trying to go with the energetic dance focused theme for akb48 as well, and it's not copying kpop since nogi46 has been doing this concept since 2011.
it was last month that on cdtv akb48 announced they were going to work harder and all that stuff so they're basically going for a brighter/more cheerful 46 concept.
b. because these were broadcast on akbingo/nemouse/akb show! and removed from youtube since this practice content was bringing the shows a lot of views.
a lot of people seem to just assume jpop is following kpop and i have no clue why they think that.
The bonding story could not work in WIP situation. Contestants had been together for some time before the show. They were no stranger, neither to the trainer. I like WIP trainer way better as she did not make total absurd comments like GP masters and actually coached them.
I totally agree that the show hardly showed any individuality but, that is what I like in a way. To narrate one's individuality in turn results biased edit and unnecessary drama.
Japanese entertainment companies are now using models K-pop has perfected for their newer groups.
honestly, where?
its true that twice/niziu are insanely popular in korea, but no one seems to be copying them (maybe the boygroups are, i wouldn't know, so im only speaking of girl groups)
the popular groups are mostly the 48 and 46 ones and a few like =LOVE or โ ME(produced by rino so basically 48 again)
the only concepts remotely similar to kpop in the jpop scene rn (that cant be traced back to jpop) is this group
doing a gfriend esque concept.
the only catch? theyre dudes...
The bonding story could not work in WIP situation. Contestants had been together for some time before the show. They were no stranger, neither to the trainer. I like WIP trainer way better as she did not make total absurd comments like GP masters and actually coached them.
I totally agree that the show hardly showed any individuality but, that is what I like in a way. To narrate one's individuality in turn results biased edit and unnecessary drama.
Yeah, unfortunately that format doesn't work with Japanese audience. I don't see this show go well in Japan since people seems to be turned off by it.
Is Japan capitulating and finally following the Kpop trends:
To answer this, nope.. japanese music still following their own trend and music. They didnt follow kpop, most of the popular local act there sound nothing like kpop. They have their own trend. And rock is still popular there. The top artist there like Kenshi, Yoasobi, Aimyon, Lisa, Official Higedandism just to name a few isnt same like kpop. And they are not idol either. Idol Is big in Japan but they are not mainstream like the artist i name. They are popular on their own niche. They sell a ton but their song rarely stay long in chart.
The Kpop style u see like Niziu, Jo1 and INI is make by kpop label collabrating with japanese label. It isnt make by japanese label so i dont know why u say japan is following kpop lmao. They are made bcoz kpop is big in japan and the japanese label want their own local group with that style.
Is Japan capitulating and finally following the Kpop trends:
To answer this, nope.. japanese music still following their own trend and music. They didnt follow kpop, most of the popular local act there sound nothing like kpop. They have their own trend. And rock is still popular there. The top artist there like Kenshi, Yoasobi, Aimyon, Lisa, Official Higedandism just to name a few isnt same like kpop. And they are not idol either. Idol Is big in Japan but they are not mainstream like the artist i name. They are popular on their own niche. They sell a ton but their song rarely stay long in chart.
The Kpop style u see like Niziu, Jo1 and INI is make by kpop label collabrating with japanese label. It isnt make by japanese label so i dont know why u say japan is following kpop lmao. They are made bcoz kpop is big in japan and the japanese label want their own local group with that style.
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ok, the question is, is befirst music sound like kpop? i leave for u to judge 
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