no nwjns member actually stand out because the group was meant to be seen collectively and not as individuals, that's why they debuted with similar hairstyles and unlike most groups they don't dye their hair often, their youth and genz persona is what the public likes and unless their ceo knows how to keep the public attention and change their image once they get older i dont think they will be a long lasting group but maybe im just being too pessimistic
Posts by Everythingoes8
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is most popular same as the most viewed??
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They lost it due to seniority more than anything else.
But the fact they had to give NewJeans ZERO judge points to make that happen is absurd.
Just give the most deserving group the award. Imagine if the Oscars or Grammies handled on who's been in the industry the longest
that's what the oscars literally do, though? young actors are rarely awarded for the main categories since the academy leans towards the older and "more experienced" actors, very often awards are not about the performance they're nominated for but their career and how it was long due for them, a recent example is gary oldman and timothee chalamet, both nominated for best actor, even though the two of them did a great performance, critics and experts were sure gary was going to win not exactly because he was better in his characterization of churchill but because he had a drastic physical transformation and after such a long career he finally deserved to win so yes, seniority can be an important factor when it comes to judge decisions to award someone
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all these collabs feel so forced and unnecessary, latto delivered so i didnt mind the song featuring another singer/rapper but jack harlow didnt add anything to the song, the ones gaining something out of these collabs are the western artists and not jungkook so i hope his next single is a solo song with korean (more interesting) lyrics
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All of them are not like they used to be in their prime years anymore. All of these are for a few reasons, like fierce competition from small to medium companies, a wider international market for kpop, social media influence, poor marketing strategy, changing of leadership in the company and also poor management and decision making. All of these lead to the decline that we all feel.
If we put album sales and revenues aside, the Big 3 is simply not as powerful as they used to be. They are still on the top but not really that wow or impressive anymore.
SM: The pioneer for big kpop company. They used to dominate the market all from bg to gg. All their older groups are extremely popular, not only among kpop fans but also, gp. Yet starting from 3rd gen precisely after RV, they started to go downhill. Exo was super successful and has lots of potential but, sm dropped them since 2018 when the competition with Bts were very tight and close. Rv is always being treated like their stepdaughter. It is a mess. Dream has a chance but has started to be put aside. Wayv? Gone. Aespa and Riize are probably gonna get their senior treatment right after they are big enough for sm standard.
YG: Nothing much to say because they don't have a solid background of history, like sm. But they having the biggest and iconic bg in 2nd gen and gg in 3rd gen make you think they know what they are doing. Funnily enough, they are not. From having bigbang to being the last in the bg competition among the big 4. Not sure what will happen to bm and if they able to repeat the success of bp with them.
Jyp: Just like Yg, there is nothing much to say but they are known as a gg company for their iconic gg with hit after hit. Twice save their reputation as the company started to decline during early 3rd gen. Itzy did great during their rookie era and suddenly boom, they have such inconsistency in their TT. Nmixx didn't have a chance since the beginning. Their gg growth are the slowest now among the big 4. Skz are doing good internationally but not much domestically. For now, Jyp are also the weaker in domestic market among top companies
this is actually wrong, bangtan was already miles ahead of any other group in terms of international success after dna release and their two cbs in 2018, fake love that got paks and became the first korean song in billboard top #10 and love yourself breaking album records cleared out any doubt about competition, exo comeback with tempo just confirmed. im not trying to downplay their success or potential but they were not comparable with bts in 2018 because a lot of reasons, including of course sm known history of mismanagement
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argentinian fans are so useless, they talk sht about american fans all the time and yet, they cant give bts a top 10 in their country, same as uruguay, the rest of latin america broke streaming records not only for a korean act but a non spanish speaking song but of couse it had to be the whitest countries in the region the ones that did the worst not surprised at all
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Go make your own thread on it if it’s that severe. The hate against Kai is so severe that we feel the need to talk about it.
idc how severe is, im just asking whether is allowed or not
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Strictly internationally? Still Wannabe.
Views: Wannabe
Spotify streams: Wannabe
International certifications: WA DA DA (RIAJ Platinum for 100M streams). Wannabe is RIAJ Gold (50M streams).
Love Dive, Hype Boy, Tomboy, God's Menu, and Next Level are also big for K-pop internationally.
youtube views for music acts, even korean ones, are decreasing, not even blackpink or bts are getting a huge amount of views anymore so wannabe record is safe for now, in the case of spotify, groups are getting more streams, even more than youtube and as we could see, itzy is not doing well in spotify which means their music isnt popular with the public or fans anymore
well, ive and lsrfm are getting those japanese certifications cause their songs are popular there and they have good stats
the only thing wannabe has is time, since is older than the rest of songs it has better streams but not for long
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still hoping there will be a world tour
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surprised she didnt get much hate for saying this
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no matter what people say, fandoms can influence in your interest for an artist. after irene scandal i was very disappointed because despite not being a fan i really liked her but watching fans trying to change the whole story and saying shit like it was a personal stylist, a man, that they gave her ugly outfits therefore she deserved it and trying to fit a feminist narrative of irene standing up for herself when we are talking about a powerful and millionaire woman mistreating other women in lower lever position. a feminism that ignores class and race struggle is a hollow feminism but what can i expect from fans with zero critical thinking?? that's why i dislike most gg stans and cant force myself to like irene anymore
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tired of the same bunch of racists trying tl deny that cultural appropiation exist and making it seem as if its something made by privileged white people on twitter when indigenous people have been speaking up about it, as if clothes brands havent been stealing indigenous traditions and culture
blackpink new video is about korean culture so theres nothing wrong about it but it's really infuriating seeing people being blatantly racist and not even being called out by others
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All the IVE singles, definitely
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I think all big companies inflate their groups physical sales, specially the ones from 4th gen. Besides USA, Japan, China and Kr, the rest of the world dont really buy albums and aespa has a strong fanbase in only two of these countries so I dont think is surprising if people dont trust their album sales
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they're the actual 4th gen leaders, they have the korean charts, the "it girls", the global streams, the album sales, everything