Newjeans losing Daesang to Seventeen due to misogyny?

Dear god, just go away

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Not this being how I found out they lost

Did they get ANY awards?

They got a bonsang and Listeners Choice Award.

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Not this being how I found out they lost

Did they get ANY awards?

artist of the year bonsang and listeners choice.

there's always next time

Seriously I said, Nj might become Bp 2.0 and stop attending all these awards show if they got no daesang this year.

As for svt winning the daesang, I think it's because they're the only senior group attending that award show. So, I guess the judges give them that Daesang to respect their seniority and attendance because other senior groups didn't care about that show anymore.

0 judge point is too much

at least make it less obvious ?

They lost it due to seniority more than anything else.

But the fact they had to give NewJeans ZERO judge points to make that happen is absurd.

Just give the most deserving group the award. Imagine if the Oscars or Grammies handled on who's been in the industry the longest

who cares, its just one award

their performance was an incredible change-up tho

The only awards show that NewJeans is all but guaranteed to win AOTY is the Melon Music Awards.

MAMAs will go just like The Fact Music Awards did.

also, the maths there doesn't add up. the judges could give a 30/10 split to Seventeen and Seventeen would still come out on top. It doesn't have to be 0% to NJ, not everything is a conspiracy, Seventeen had a great year

NJ: 42 + 10 = 52

SVT: 27 + 30 = 57

it's nbd, it could have been super close

Just give it to Seventeen 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏻

welp time to log out again

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who cares, its just one award

their performance was an incredible change-up tho

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Seventeen had a great year too, even in digitals they're doing well (something that most bgs lacks)

The Fact Award = Boy Group > Girl Group

Award shows always prefer to give the awards to the groups with the bigger fandoms, it has been happening forever. The judges points is always ridiculous it doesn't make any sense a hidden score that can be chosen how they wanted is valued a 40% (actually I don't think the judges point should even exist if you're giving the rest of the points by objective numbers), however most award shows have it so they have the final choice.

Expect this to happen several times more this year. NJs is the most impactful artist this year anyway and anyone that bothers to make some research know it.

It is a bullshit award. No reason to waste time on it

They don’t want to disappoint seventeen since they’re a senior group. Not many 3rd gen groups are attending. That’s all

I'm surprised people are even arguing about the TMAs lol.

I remember when it 1st started, it was considered on the same level as the AAAs.

Basically 2nd tier awards. Now, it seems to be at the point of being taken seriously.

This award season is about to be interesting.

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I'm surprised people are even arguing about the TMAs lol.

I remember when it 1st started, it was considered on the same level as the AAAs.

Basically 2nd tier awards. Now, it seems to be at the point of being taken seriously.

This award season is about to be interesting.

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We are always like this, this forum even argue about AAA results. That's the beauty of being a kpop stans, we can called all these awards bias and rigged but still tuned in.

Its not mysogny when the women have played themselves. A tip from the gamer crowd " get good noob"

When 90% of all kpop fans are women and the majority of women world wide and kpop fans are usually straight women that like men. Also coincidentally favor male idols and thus buy vote etc for them. This is the results,most popular group wins which happens to be a boy group. Interesting how BTS BigBang exo seventeen stray kids etc all end up with higher popularity and awards than girl groups? Hmm only one thing in common both gender groups have massive female fans yet only one gets the most votes and ultra dedicated fandoms hmmm gee I wonder why? Could it be sex sells and agencies know women like men more? Holy shit Batman

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I think it has more to do with Seventeen being the bigger Group and not Misogyny.

They do have more than twice as many members. You might be right.

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They do have more than twice as many members. You might be right.

They could have matched their numbers if Ador hadn't dropped all those girls who trained with newjeans.

girl no one bothered about their sleeper songs lbr here…

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I Was one of those girls

My Great Aunt Debra was too! You know her?

Didn't SVT sell 5 million plus albums?

Opps it was 6,266,467

I'm seeing Ive catching strays as well, with Ryan Meat Jun getting exposed again and with NJ fans tying him to Ive.

Seventeen is currently the biggest kpop group imho

I see no issue with them winning. They had an amazing year