Why do most non-fans seem to think that LE SSERAFIM "lacks" a musical identity?

    I think many people confuse "musical identity" with song genre and that might be the problem because, to me, their musical identity is still very much the same and a lot of people don't get that musical identity can evolve constantly. To me, their musical identity has evolved with each song but the theme is still very much the same. Their entire musical identity since debut has been: FEARLESS. "I'M FEARLESS," it's literally in their name. You can see this recurring theme in every single one of their releases to date. I'll explain.


    FEARLESS:
    Pretty self-explanatory. It's a song about being fearless, overcoming obstacles, and not being afraid to move forward despite all the challenges one may face. The song emphasizes confidence, self-acceptance, and defiance and how those factors help us redefine our personal strength.


    "내 흉짐도 나의 일부라면" or "If my scars are a part of me" inspires the fact that vulnerability is not something to be feared or avoided because being vulnerable ultimately teaches us a valuable lesson about how we are shaped by our past and mistakes but not defined by them.


    ANTIFRAGILE:

    This a song about overcoming adversity and, again, not being afraid to move forward despite all the challenges one may face. It teaches us how our journey that may now be full of hardships and challenges but is merely a steppingstone to achieving our full potential.


    "가시밭길 위로 ridin' You made me boost up" or "Riding over the trail of thorns, You made me boost up" is a message about perseverance and resilience. In "잊지 마 내가 두고 온 toe shoes 무슨 말이 더 필요해 무시 마 내가 걸어온 career I go to ride ’til I die, die" or "Don't forget my pointe shoes I left behind, What more must be said. Don't underestimate the path I've walked. I go to ride 'til I die, die," Kazuha speaks about not being insecure or ashamed of the path that we've foraged through because those experiences make up who we are. She speaks from a personal point of view where she left a promising career in Ballet behind for something more and she feels fearless in the decision and sacrifice she made because she places full faith and trust in her past adventures and how they have shaped her as a person.


    UNFORGIVEN:

    Is a song about not being afraid to push boundaries of confinement regardless of the consequences. In today's society where anyone who deviates from the norm is persecuted and ostracized and made out to be a "villain," it is important to stand your ground and embody a confidence that requires no forgiveness.


    LE SSERAFIM says "신념이 죄면 난 villain" or "If belief’s a sin, I’m a villain" meaning that if believing and having confidence in oneself is a "sin" then being considered a "villain" is absolutely worth it. In "힘없이 늘 져야만 했던 싸움 but I ride" or "I was powerless, used to lose every fight but I ride," they say that you should rather be confident and persistent than be powerless and lose every fight.


    Perfect Night:

    Is a song about that feeling of freedom that we all experience after finding solace in personal relationships and company.


    "I got all I need, You know nothing else can beat. The way that I feel when I'm dancin' with my girls. Perfect energy, Yeah, we flawless, yeah, we free. There's no better feelin' in the whole wide world" speaks to the euphoria that descends over us when around people that we love or feel comfortable around. There's a reason why Perfect Night is their most successful single to date: the song acts as a gateway to a sort of utopia where we are consumed by a fearlessness that liberates us from the societal shackles that we were previously bound with.


    Now moving onto the iconic trilogy...


    EASY:

    Is an anthem that depicts a crazy and hot fearlessness that pushes them to overcome challenges while making everything look easy (when its really not) and being true to themselves.


    "다친대도, 길을 걸어, kiss me 쉽지 않음 내가 쉽게 easy Stage, 위엔 불이 튀어, 내 body Pull up and I rip it up like ballet Damn, I really make it look easy Yeah, know that I make it look easy" or "I could get hurt, but keep on walking, kiss me. If it’s hard then I make it easy. Up on the stage, sparks fly off my body. Pull up and I rip it up like ballet," conveys a message of embracing hardships with unbridled strength and resilience.


    When you watch a ballerina on stage performing pirouettes en pointe while exuding an unmatched level of grace and elegance, you probably think its easy...but its not.


    When you watch an idol performing on an award stage with energetic precision, you assume you can do it while thinking its easy...but its not.


    They just make it look easy.


    CRAZY:

    A song about letting go of all worries and just...going crazy with the fear of nothing.


    They make an interesting point of bringing up Galileo, who, for those who don't know was persecuted by The Church for presenting the heliocentric model..a model where the Sun was the center of the solar system and not the Earth. This, I believe, is meant to speak to his experience with The Church. Despite the fact that he was forced to be silent, he still inspired many people to think for themselves. He was one of the pioneers that sparked the cultural and intellectual rebirth of Italy in an era known as the Italian Renaissance.


    Chaewon says "Yeah, me and my girls 우린 눈이 멀 것을 알아도 저 태양에 kiss, mwah" or "Yeah, me and my girls We know we will go blind, but we still give the sun a kiss, mwah" meaning that their craziness brings them to the point of fearlessness. They will look their opponents dead in the eye and still have to courage to fight while knowing the possibility of them losing the battle.


    And finally,


    HOT:

    LE SSERAFIM brings an exciting end to their powerful trilogy with a simple yet influential message to live one's life on one's own terms and without fear.


    "I'm burning hot (Hot), 내가 나로 살 수 있다면 재가 된대도 난 좋아 (좋아) So tonight, 안겨 네 품 안에 Bonnie and Clyde it, oh" or "I'm burning hot. if I can live life my own way, Turning to ashes ain't no problem. So tonight in your embrace, Bonnie and Clyde it, oh" and "Not running from it, not running from it 불타오르지, I love it 살게 해 날 (Hot) I'm burning hot (I'm burning hot)" or "Not running from it, not running from it. Flames rising high, I love it. Let me live, I'm burning hot" circling back to Perfect Night's message about finding solace in companionship.


    The song is basically a massive "fuck you" to societal norms (and haters) saying, "You can call me a villain and you can call me crazy but I will live my life my own way, without fear, tearing down your confinements with confidence that needs no forgiveness..all while making it look easy."


    That was a long rant but after reading all of that, do you still think they lack a musical identity?


    If you do then please explain why.

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    Agree that they have music identity, I think non fans are trying to say they lack originality? Seeing how some eras were really just some copy+paste from others music acts, buuuuut overall yes, I also think they have music identity. It's different from what others kpop groups are doing and yes, they have this concept where they evolve inside the concept, like BP with their sound.

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    CRAZY:

    A song about letting go of all worries and just...going crazy with the fear of nothing.

    it's not what crazy is about


    as describe by the girl crazy lyrics represent the emotion you feel when you meet someone who drives you crazy

    and the struggle of loving something so much that you would do anything for it


    "“We’re going to be talking about the struggles of loving something so much that you would do anything for it, and you would lose your mind over [it],” Yunjin says carefully"

    That's your only takeaway?


    Anyway. Yes, that's not only what Crazy is about but what I said is one of the ways in which I interpret it.

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    As a kpop fans and fearnots i don't consider message of lyrics a "musical identity"


    Cuz music is universal and to me anybody should be able to notice if you have a distinctive identity in your song without having to necessarily understand the languages in which you sing


    and this lack of musical identity is a critics that comes from the korean side which are supposed to understand their lyrics so i think how they are written and how most people translate them to make them available to the international publics makes a lot of meaning and nuances lost.


    Now i do agree on people who say Lesserafim doesn't have a musical identity


    but it's not a problem not every artist needs to have one, some artist are better at surfing on trends while other are better at create their own identity


    I think most people agree that lsrf seems to have find their own sound and musical identity with Antifragile/Unforgiven


    but after this it just seems that HYBE have made them chase after the latest trend and the latest sound that could be popular and kinda put on the side their desire to create to lsrf an identity


    and it's not just a problem that seems to appear in their music

    even their entire aesthetic seems to have been shifted since this era

    and seems to be different every comeback


    which re-enforce the impression of lack of identity


    Like you can't picture an image of something and think "It's so Lesserafim" now

    Like i could do it with newjeans, aespa, blackpink etc...

    To me LSFM has always felt like a "chasing the trend" kinda group so you could argue that's their musical identity lol. And that is perfectly okay imo.


    I mean lbr LSFM hasn't exactly reinvented the wheel with their music. But that's fine, you can lack musical identity but still be pretty good. Which is the case with LSFM.


    I'll give them one thing, I've mentioned it before, I like their consistency with including spoken word intros in every album. I think intros and interludes are underrated and we need more of them in kpop. But that's a different story.

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    Like you can't picture an image of something and think "It's so Lesserafim" now

    Like i could do it with newjeans, aespa, blackpink etc...

    Yeah I agree with this.

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    To me LSFM has always felt like a "chasing the trend" kinda group so you could argue that's their musical identity lol. And that is perfectly okay imo.


    I mean lbr LSFM hasn't exactly reinvented the wheel with their music. But that's fine, you can lack musical identity but still be pretty good. Which is the case with LSFM.

    I completely agree


    People always take lack of musical identity as a critic when it's not the case


    Yes we need some groups who stand out with their identity to bring us some freshness


    but we also need groups who doesn't necessarily have an identity to bring us Bops who are in adequation with what the public wants at a certain moment of time


    if you look at most kpop group very few of them have a really good establish "musical identity"


    besides Stray Kids, Nct, Riize (with their consistency at using instrument in their song), Newjeans, Aespa and maybe Blackpink to some extent


    no other group really came to my mind

    I think Enhypen falls in the same category as LSFM imo. They don't really have a "sound", but their songs are bops. I don't need more than that tbh.


    with RIIZE it's too early to tell; I'd wait for their next album to confirm but so far apart from the musical instrument theme, they seem to be all over the place with their music. but for example, their peers zb1 and boynextdoor do have a musical identity already.


    I will give that staying on message makes for a consistent artistic identity, but musical identity and artistic identity are not the same :

    LSF could have books, sculptures, paintings made that would be coherent with that whole "FEARLESS" thing.

    Musical identity comes from the music and would only be coherent with more music.

    Lyrics are not musical identity. LSFM follow trends and that's ok, they're not known for a signature sound.


    Groups with a strong musical identity don't have songs that sound the exact same and is the same genre every time, but they have a consistent quality where people immediately will say "oh this is so x". With LSFM their songs sound like they could be by any GG, nothing about it makes it clearly LSFM.


    The identity they have is in the performance aspect. That's what they're known for, that they're performance/choreo based. They are not known for anything musically.

    I do think they lack an identity--they don't have their own sound or distinct style. When I hear a specific beat, styling, etc. I don't think LSFM (or it never crosses my mind).


    I do think they have some good songs (but not targeted to my demographics, thus I'm not a fan). I think having a musical identity carves out a space for artists and allows them to be a trend setter.


    LSFM does have good lyrics; however, the rest of their visual styling, marketing, sound, etc. doesn't follow that. Also, some of their lyrics are a bit too repetitive for me (a lot of kpop songs are).


    Ultimately, there is nothing wrong with lacking a musical identity. However, groups and artists can run into the issue of blending into the background because nowadays, there's a lot of people following the trend.


    I think the girlies can deliver; however, the company just wants them to follow the trends.

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    I think Enhypen falls in the same category as LSFM imo. They don't really have a "sound", but their songs are bops. I don't need more than that tbh.


    with RIIZE it's too early to tell; I'd wait for their next album to confirm but so far apart from the musical instrument theme, they seem to be all over the place with their music. but for example, their peers zb1 and boynextdoor do have a musical identity already.

    None of the bighit group has a specific sound, I believe. BTS never had a specific concept, they used to experiment alot and did it till their recent hiatus, txt did a lot of experiment and now lesserafim is doing it. I actually prefer it over releasing the same sound for the nth time.

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    Lyrics aren't the only thing that gives a musical identity. It also includes how they are portrayed. I feel like there is a disconnect between the Fearless/Antifragile/Unforgiven era vs the Easy/Crazy/Hot era.


    I think the success of Perfect Night changed the direction of their musical identity, and their chase for international popularity. It moved them away from what I liked about LSFM. It does feel like they became trend chasers and became more generic.

    Versatility is their identity imo but that could be a detriment to them. Nobody knows what sound we're going to get with a lsf comeback because every title track is vastly different. With the current popular groups like Asepa, NJZ, Idle, Ive, and others. We can hear a song, and say that sounds like one of their songs. With LSF I am unsure we can say that unless you're into them and can recognize their vocals. I think that's what people mean when they say the lack a musical identity.


    As a LSF fan, I don't mind versatility being their identity, but that's not the best thing for the average listener. It's not just a kpop thing, and there's more of a connection with audience there's familiarity and Le Sserafim doesn't essentially provide that with their music. I think what's detrimental to them is kpop fans don't listen to albums unless it's their bias. LSF identity can easily be identified with the unique intros they have with every release but the average listener isn't going out of their way to check their intros that adds onto their lore.

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    Agree that they have music identity, I think non fans are trying to say they lack originality? Seeing how some eras were really just some copy+paste from others music acts, buuuuut overall yes, I also think they have music identity. It's different from what others kpop groups are doing and yes, they have this concept where they evolve inside the concept, like BP with their sound.

    But that's what every other gg do

    Xg aespa nj concepts are different takes on y2k ( metalic futuristic core and 90s nostalgia), all trending now, why u think their agencies pic them to begin with

    But nobody said those groups are unoriginal when u can go to Pinterest and their whole imaginary is found in boards

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    Lyrics aren't the only thing that gives a musical identity. It also includes how they are portrayed. I feel like there is a disconnect between the Fearless/Antifragile/Unforgiven era vs the Easy/Crazy/Hot era.


    I think the success of Perfect Night changed the direction of their musical identity, and their chase for international popularity. It moved them away from what I liked about LSFM. It does feel like they became trend chasers and became more generic.

    Those are trilogies

    That's why u mention them as one even

    Fearless/antifragile/unforgiven was a trilogy and easy/crazy/hot is other

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    Those are trilogies

    That's why u mention them as one even

    Fearless/antifragile/unforgiven was a trilogy and easy/crazy/hot is other

    I know. And I'm saying that the 1st trilogy fits them better and the 2nd trilogy should have built upon the 1st one. In my opinion, the 2nd trilogy is influenced by the success of Perfect Night. While lyrically it stayed consistent, it is like they left the 1st trilogy behind instead of incorporating elements that made them successful. It feels like everything was stripped away to move onto something new.


    Also, Hybe's obsession with Tik tok virality clearly took over in this iteration. For example, Hot was like Katseye's Debut. Just an underbaked song that clearly had only the chorus virality in mind.


    I know the plan for the trilogy was done way before, but there are decisions at a producer level that happened where I'm questioning the overall execution and direction of this trilogy.

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    I think many people don't know what musical identity actually means.


    First of all, it has nothing to do with the concept. That's just visuals. Or the lyrics!


    Being versatile (I wouldn't use this word for LSF, btw) is also not a musical identity. I do not think LSF is a versatile group. Why? Because their music is not that different from each other. I only use this term for artist who released songs in at least 10 genres. LSF never did that, not yet! Most of their songs are dance-pop, pop, RnB or EDM.


    We could argue they have a musical identity, but if we look at other groups, I think we can find other groups who released similar music, with similar lyrics as well.


    The industry use "Musical Identity" when an artist constantly releases not only good music, but most importantly, evolving with every comeback.


    Can we really say that LSF evolved since their debut? I'm not talking about their skills, I'm talking about the production of their songs, the message of their songs. Did they ever try to do something different? I'm not so sure about that.


    This isn't even really about the girls, it's about HYBE and Source Music and their producers/songwriters. I don't think they have any identity in general. Not just LSF, but most of their groups.


    Someone already said this, and I feel the same way. I feel HYBE and its sub-labels don't want to create their own unique style, they're chasing the trends.


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    It's different from what others kpop groups are doing and yes, they have this concept where they evolve inside the concept, like BP with their sound.

    What sound? Every YG music sound the same, especially the BP songs. I mean, it's called the YG Style for a reason. Since they left YG, yes, their sound is a bit different I could say it's even better, but not at YG.

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    A theme but not an identity.


    There are certain groups with a consistent sound: like Aespa NewJeans

    There are other groups that can try new sounds but still do it in a way only they can: idle, Red Velvet

    And then there's groups that try everything at least once: LSF, T-ara etc


    But I don't think that's a con. Groups like LSF tend to be lucky as people will continue to keep checking out their new releases even if they hadn't liked the last few ones, because they can always expect something new. When groups that have a more consistent sound start to lose listeners, it's hard to get them back

    Exactly this. This is what I meant about versatility because they've covered multiple genres. I think the issue might be some people aren't checking out their b-sides to see this. I don't see any group doing a song like fire in the belly. Also having a title track like Crazy is something that is much different than what most groups are doing.


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    Exactly this. This is what I meant about versatility because they've covered multiple genres. I think the issue might be some people aren't checking out their b-sides to see this. I don't see any group doing a song like fire in the belly. Also having a title track like Crazy is something that is much different than what most groups are doing.


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    Yeah whenever I see someone claiming they can't sing and they pull up a clip of one of their title tracks im like so thats why.


    Their bsides usually showcase more vocals and variety in genre than any of their title tracks.

    I mean you are wildly incorrect about what Musical Identity is, but let's talk about your post anyway.


    LSF's concepts are, in the end, extremely empty. It's all very, in trying to be generous to them, "pop psychology" stuff. It's what you'd find at the checkout store or hocked by some self-help influencer.


    Their lyrics are surface level, and there's no underlying actions to support them. What's LSF's comeback? Oh it's going to be some incomprehensible lyrics with the illusion of depth, and we'll dress them in trendy street clothes. Next comeback? Oh it'll be some faux depth lyrics with... hey you guess it, trendy street clothes.


    They are a marketing focus group led kpop group. Watch me as I reveal their amazing strategy


    • Take stock of what's currently popular in Tiktok or on Spotify
    • Get their mostly male 30-40 year old producers to rework purchased songs from swedish song mercenaries
    • Throw in some absolutely indeterminable garbage lyrics that suggests there's some deep philosophy in play.
    • Here are some of the dumbass lyrics from their latest release, the 1st track, and was on their promo material -



    Lots of words, very little substance. It fails a poetry, it fails as anything evocative, it's just someone who's chat gpting some verbose sentences together to try to make something.


    LSF's entire identity is just emperor's no clothes sort of stuff. People treat it seriously, for example your post, when in reality they've got no identity whatsoever. Try to stop deluding yourself.

    Congrats.


    You did an amazingly horrendous job at masking your contempt for LE SSERAFIM. I was not aware that having a musical identity is attributed to what style of clothing they wear but sure..sure.


    Their lyrics are "surface level" yet "incomprehensible" though I'm pretty sure that's just you not being capable of literacy in its most basic form.


    Your criticisms of LE SSERAFIM not only have absolutely nothing to do with a "musical identity" but are also very likely just you projecting because you know your faves could never.


    So kindly stop deluding yourself into thinking that you're this person with all-encompassing knowledge when in reality, you are just someone on the internet being bitter about a group that couldn't care less about you.


    You know nothing about poetry, philosophy, nor literature.


    You don't get to decide what lyrics are "indeterminable," "garbage," and "dumbass," and you most definitely do not get to talk shit about a group you know nothing about.


    Jealously is never a good look :finger-heart:


    But its nice to see that this "empty" group still has you hooked for each of their comebacks.

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    Not sure, but I’m not a fan and have listened to a couple of songs, and what I’ve gathered is that LE SSERAFIM has a confident, edgy sound that leans into sleek pop with a mix of electronic and R&B influences. Their music feels minimal but impactful, often built around strong basslines and a sense of attitude. They seem to focus a lot on themes of fearlessness and self-empowerment, which fits their whole concept. Even if their sound shifts, that bold, stylish vibe seems to stay consistent.

    Name the actual titles, because I'm pretty sure I heard every LSF song, but I never heard them doing half these genres. Most of these are the sub-category of EDM, Pop, and RnB.


    Using a SAMPLE from a genre doesn't make the song Reggaeton or Rock, for example. Not to mention remixes. It's called remix for a reason!


    You can find the genres here: LE SSERAFIM - Rate Your Music


    I don't count "spoken word" as a real genre, because it's just a spoken word, not music!

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    Exactly this. This is what I meant about versatility because they've covered multiple genres. I think the issue might be some people aren't checking out their b-sides to see this. I don't see any group doing a song like fire in the belly. Also having a title track like Crazy is something that is much different than what most groups are doing.


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    How many groups do you want me to mention? I mean, the first one (Latin music) is pretty basic in Kpop since day 1. LSF is not even the 100th group who released a song like that.


    Rock is not as popular, especially with mainstream Idol groups, but let's not compare LSF with Dreamcatcher or MAMAMOO, that wouldn't be fair. This is Pop-Rock, btw, and I don't think I've ever heard so much autotune in a Pop-Rock song.


    About "CRAZY" as a title track. 4Minute, EXID, F(x) and so on, says hi!


    Not to mention soloists like: Uhm Junghwa, Kim Wansun, Chungha, or Solar.


    Just an 8 and a 9 year old TITLE TRACK:


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    I think this is enough. I applaud LSF for trying out different genres, but they have a long way to go to be in the same league with these people and groups, and I could mention more.



    As I said already, doing multiple genres has nothing to do with musical identity.

    With current groups they aren't covering as many genres as them. I don't think it's a strong identity, and I did mention earlier that it's detrimental to the group. I don't think you should make the average listener to go out of their way to find their identity. With the current top groups you can know it's one of their songs by listening to it. When you hear other groups making a song you usually read people saying this sounds like an Aespa, NewJeans, Ive, Idle, Twice, Blackpink, Red Velvet, Loona, and a few other popular groups sound. However, I don't think I've seen people say that about LSF and that could be due to having weaker music identity by dabbling into many genres.

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    As a LSF fan, I don't mind versatility being their identity, but that's not the best thing for the average listener. It's not just a kpop thing, and there's more of a connection with audience there's familiarity and Le Sserafim doesn't essentially provide that with their music. I think what's detrimental to them is kpop fans don't listen to albums unless it's their bias. LSF identity can easily be identified with the unique intros they have with every release but the average listener isn't going out of their way to check their intros that adds onto their lore.

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    With current groups they aren't covering as many genres as them. I don't think it's a strong identity, and I did mention earlier that it's detrimental to the group. I don't think you should make the average listener to go out of their way to find their identity. With the current top groups you can know it's one of their songs by listening to it. When you hear other groups making a song you usually read people saying this sounds like an Aespa, NewJeans, Ive, Idle, Twice, Blackpink, Red Velvet, Loona, and a few other popular groups sound. However, I don't think I've seen people say that about LSF and that could be due to having weaker music identity by dabbling into many genres.

    I mean, the current groups (most of them) are not that different from old gen groups, except one thing: They don't try to CREATE the trends, they want to FOLLOW the trends!


    I'm not that sure if we can say that Aespa, TWICE, BP are that much different from the predecessors. I mean, pretty much every SM, JYP and YG group has the same type of sound with a bit of extra on it. TWICE is basically your average Kpop girl group sound, BP is the same old loud noise swag yolo YG sound, and Aespa is the futuristic version of SNSD, or S.E.S. Doesn't really matter. Obviously, it's easy to recognize the Aespa style, because SM doing the same thing what they're doing with other groups like Red Velvet. They use the same formula, but add their own flair.


    The same goes for NewJeans, because technically, they're more of an SM group than HYBE, thanks to MHJ.


    IVE is basically a group that sampling old songs and doing these high-pitched vocal arrangements, and Starship doesn't really have their own style. Just like HYBE, they're chasing the trends.


    LSF could've been a much better group with a real music concept, because they're not that skilled to do multiple genres, but than again, if they're an SME group, this wouldn't be a problem. So, it's all on HYBE as usual.


    Imagine Soyeon composing a song for them, or anyone at RBW. Even tho I hate that company, but their producers are probably one of the best. This is my problem with NMIXX (more like JYP) as well. Talented group, but the composers don't compliment their artists, the composition of their songs undermine them. The beat is more important than their vocals.

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    Quote from StanGIDLE

    With current groups they aren't covering as many genres as them.

    i disagree, LSFRM cover as much genre than any other gg do

    i don't know for other groups but i'll take the example of Aespa cuz it's the 5th gen GG i know the best their discography


    you use the example of fire in the belly which is latin inspired song to say that other current group doesn't cover as many genres than them


    but when these other group aren't doing latin inspired music for example

    they are covering other genre like for example aespa did with "Lingo" by dropping a music influence by country which is a genre that for lsrf didn't cover for example.


    and i bet it's the same thing for many other gg


    for each genre that lsrf is covering, there's another gg out here that cover a genre that lsrf didn't cover yet


    for example i don't remember lsrf releasing song country, hyperpop etc....


    and i bet gg with Loona and Gidle who have a big discography, must have try a lot more genres



    Quote from StanGIDLE

    When you hear other groups making a song you usually read people saying this sounds like an Aespa, NewJeans, Ive, Idle, Twice, Blackpink, Red Velvet, Loona, and a few other popular groups sound. However, I don't think I've seen people say that about LSF and that could be due to having weaker music identity by dabbling into many genres.

    No the difference is that all the group you mention understand one thing


    people who aren't your fans will only listen to your title track, so that's where they stay consistent and build their musical identity


    while your fans will listen to your bsides too, and that's where they try to expand musically, and try new genres


    the problem with lesserafim is that they completely ignore this, since the after-unforgiven era

    It could be argued that a majority of GGs and BGs don't have a musical identity. After all, a majority don't produce their own work. I'd say BTS has one because of the diverse sounds, concepts, and lyrical composition, due to all the members contributing in some way or form. It's due to what they read that it's some of their concepts originate from, like with RM and Carl Jung for Map of the Soul: 7.

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