Posts by Jeop


    I will give that staying on message makes for a consistent artistic identity, but musical identity and artistic identity are not the same :

    LSF could have books, sculptures, paintings made that would be coherent with that whole "FEARLESS" thing.

    Musical identity comes from the music and would only be coherent with more music.

    Without competition in Hybe anymore, Lsf has all the support, attention and resources, while NJ now has to prove if their previous success was really their own or mainly contributed by Hybe’s backing.

    1 - Illit's fans in shamble.


    2 - Why do you speak like BHS didn't participate on most if not all their most pushed tracks? Do you think he just passed on making more money from royalties just because and will go full throttle now? That it was by choice that LSF previously failed to unseat IVE and lack of motivation on BHS's part that let Aespa come back to the scene as well as they had?


    3 - Wait, this is a set-up thread isn't it?

    Just wanna ask everyone here this worst case scenario: What happens if the court decides the contract terminaton is illegal and NJZ must return to Ador? Because that scenario is not out of the question...


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    Just to be clear: what is happening right now has 0% chance of ending that way, simply because we are still at the stage of ador seeking an injunction (the court agreeing that one party's behaviour needs to be restricted for some time) to limit NJZ's activities until the actual trial relating to the statut of the contract can happen.


    And on that specific matter, for the judge to agree to ador's demands they would have to be convinced that it is actually more harmful/less profitable for NJZ to be active (with the possibility of having to cut ador back in depending on the later court stuff) than to be restricted to hell and back.


    Furthermore as some other people pointed out, EVEN if the court decide than nothing rise to the level of legilimately ending the contract through its own writing, contract law doesn't enable slavery and at most it's either the dungeon until the first contract runs its course or paying a fine to end the contract early.

    I can't see NJ have any chance to win this, it would be scandal if they did and a break down of contract law. Still, most likely it will end in some kind of agreement and settlement, maybe a joint venture with Hybe with the girls as co-owerns in Ador or an other new company. As long as MHJ don't get a piece of the deal because it clear it's she and the parents that are behind all the trouble.

    "NJ's situation is hopeless but they will be able to turn into some form of ownership but also MHJ still badwrong" is some next lvl pre-emptive cope.

    So their decision to continue on with Ador's schedules and not taking measures to stop Ador from posting content using their likeness, won't that be argued against them?

    For the schedules and pre-recorded content, there is a difference between finishing what you have started and accepting/honoring new commitments.


    They don't need to contest what they have been scheduled to do previously by ador to contest ador's right to manage their schedule going forward.

    anyway, personally I don't see why HYBE/ADOR is so keen on proving the validity of the contract.

    I ended up watching chernobyl and there was a quote I feel is fitting : "our power come from the illusion we are powerful".


    The text NJZ is rellying on to fuck leave would be present in many if not all of their artists contracts. It could inspire other idols or groups to maybe not leave but at least press for much more in their relationship with the company.


    Plus HYBE is top lvl expert in managing the relationship between Company-Idols-Fans and they know very well that letting fans think of the company as a villain has worked very well in the past (everything a fan doesn't like about their idol of choice can be blamed on the company, leaving the idol pure and untainted). Breaking the illusion that idols are trapped, that leaving would be near-suicidal, and that revealing that idols are infact active participants in their careers may harm that existing Company-Idols-Fans relationship/fantasy.


    Finally, what else is ador going to do? You can't exactly fill the time by managing your other groups so might as well pay your employees to do SOMETHING even if it has a 1% chance of going somewhere.

    What mistreatment ocurred? The Hanni incident was ruled as "there was no bullying" and any mistreatment that could have happened was when MHJ was the CEO of Ador, so what mistreatment happened?

    1- There is no such ruling. It was ruled that Hanni, as a contractor, was not afforded the same protections as an employee. Which was the point of the assembly she was invited to (working conditions and protections for workers who are not covered by the standard laws of employment).


    2- It was made public that belift had obtained material from ador before illit's formation that would support the claims of plagiarism (they had to retract previous statements and modify the timeline they had previously shared), something fakedor has thus far failed to comment on even to say that a (bullshit) investigation of the timeline occured.

    1- why do you speak like public opinion on here or reddit affects the situation in anyway for anybody?

    2- are you arguing that being nice would in anyway affect what is happening on reddit for exemple ?

    3- if anybody deserves the title of head tokkis it's the people who are acting in the interest of NJZ in korea or people like @1tokki and from what I can see they aren't much less vehement than Yama

    There is also the fact that ador may own the masters of the song, they do not own the original lyrics/composition and that the girls are on the credits of quite a few songs in some way or another. That can impact what they can do with it.