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    Mental illness. I mentioned it previously with jest, but MHJ derangement syndrome might actually be a real thing.


    Edit : to those asking what link can be made to the whole hybe/nj thing (wich i dont think is much better than the people i just roasted, honestly), iirc lawmakers of both parties took turns roasting the hybe stooges but also oirc hybe received their privileged company statut following a visit from the wives of SK's president and japan's prime minister, but i cant be bothered to check if martial law dude was already president back when the award was granted.

    She has a long history of sexualizing minors, as well as newjeans when they were minors? is that not a fact? She called trainees at ador fat, ugly, and stupid. Is that not evil? as well as her trying to cover up an SA case that took place at Ador. Clearly your liking to her is not based on facts.

    She did not try to cover up a "SA case".

    - An employee filed a complaint for sexual harassment (not assault) following an incident involving another coworker (iirc it was something like they were both supposed to have a business lunch with a client but the collegue ended up leaving her alone, either completely or alone with the client),

    - HYBE HR department (then headed by the new ador CEO) decided that it wasn't an actual incident (feel free to track down the facts and build your own opinion about that).

    - MHJ berated the male colleague through text, despite HR "clearing" him

    - HYBE bullshitted and pretended they were firing MHJ over her handling of the case

    - some youtuber publicized edited texts base don that to demonize MHJ

    - Dispatch "corrected" the record (it was still a bit wrong wrt dates)

    - MHJ published some actual texts pertaining to the situation (before or after the dispatch articles, i can't remember)

    - The initial employee (the victim of harassment) has elected to pursue MHJ for defamation on the basis that the message she published provide enough information to identify to her new work colleagues.


    You may want to wonder if your other "MHJ facts" need to be reexamined.

    거래소 '심사 구멍' 인정…하이브 제재는 않기로
    한국거래소가 하이브 상장 과정에서 주주 간 계약을 보고하지 않은 것과 관련해 내부적으로 상장 심사에 ‘구멍’이 있었다고 판단하고, 심사 서류를 강화하는 방향으로 제도를 보완하기로 했다. 하이브에 별도 제재는 취하지
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    Aoparently the authorities have declined to pursue?


    Under the reasoning that the authorities should have caught it before it happened but since they didn't they can't do anything? The hell?

    For people who don't understand why NJ is acting differently wrt contract termination compared to other groups :


    First, it needs to be said that a group may choose to act one way or another not because of the contract but because of other circumstances, such as the fact that NJ is willing to fulfill their existing schedules while another group may specificaly want to get out of those upcoming activites.


    Second, NJ's contract seems to have escape clauses written in instead of it being left to general contract law.

    Another group trying to TERMINATE a contract may mean BREAKING the contract, and thus needing a court to declare that the group is not BREAKING the contract but instead getting out of an ALREADY BROKEN contract by showing that the company did not legitimately uphold the contract (in case of company failure/malfeasance).

    Instead, by TERMINATING the contract through an ESCAPE CLAUSE they are NOT BREAKING it and in some ways actually UPHOLDING IT and it is on ador to show that it doesn't count, actually.


    I think, though, that by using that escape clause they are kinda sorta waving their right to go after ador for damage? Because if dmg was done it was either solved (and they stayed) or they could have chosen to split (wich they ended up doing) thus stopping the damage from being done? I think this might be why those people who are theorycrafting NJ's ability to make ador pay are focusing on a counter-suit if ador tries to take them to court. So if fraudor stays put they should be covered, but I expect them to start shit and end up making themselves liable for defamation/harrassment or whatever.

    And when we discover all this money went to hybe stans that live 24/7 defending them on sns then what?? He is just feeding his kids!!!

    :exit-pepe:

    While I understand this is a joke, I'm still going to answer because it is actually the exact opposite : all the people that bought hybe shares the day it went public (amongst whom lot of BTS stans, I would assume), saw the valuation of their shares rapidly drop by like two third.

    방시혁, 4000억 따로 챙겼다…드러난 '하이브' 상장의 비밀
    하이브 창업자 방시혁 의장이 4년 전 하이브 상장으로 약 4000억원을 벌어들인 것으로 뒤늦게 확인됐다. 당시 하이브 지분을 들고 있던 사모펀드(PEF)에 ‘기업공개(IPO)를 하겠다’는 조건으로 투자 이익의 30%
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    상장 계획 없다길래 지분 판 기존 투자자 울고…새로 들어간 PEF만 횡재
    방시혁 하이브 의장과 몇몇 사모펀드(PEF)가 하이브 상장 이후 막대한 이익을 공유한 사실이 뒤늦게 알려졌다. 이들 PEF는 하이브 상장 1~2년 전에 기존 하이브 투자자들에게서 지분을 사들였다. 2020년 하이브
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    Hybe failed to disclose preexisting agreements with investors during their entry on the public stock markets in a way that led to large gains for a few closely linked insiders, amongst wich 400 billions won for BHS himself, at the expense of the new shareholders.


    Edit : they also lied to some pre-public shareholders, telling them their was no intention to go public to encourage them to sell, while others apparently knew hybe would go public and were buying the shares to sell at a huge profit the day of listing.

    Can someone here say if what they say legally works? (preferably with the least bias regardless of the sides)

    I know it's a question of breach of trust but can you easily go from having to pay a huge amount to the company paying?

    Technically, wether a group has to pay a fine for early contract termination or not and wether the company has to pay the group for damage or not are 2 separate things (even if inevitably related).


    The group, by default, has to pay a fine because they are depriving the company from the return on investment they had a right to expect. But they can argue that the company can or will not uphold their end of the contract going forward and that, as such, the company does not have a right to expect that RoI anymore.


    The company, by default, does not have to pay for damage for simply failing to deliver on every hope and dream. But if the company deliberately harmed the group's prospects then they should be accountable for it.


    (in this case we know for sure they did do so and/or attempted to on multiple occasions)

    All the girls wrote in support of MHJ for the first injunction, all the girls took part in the callout video, all the girls signed on the 2weeks notice. Doubt any is going to flip on the last stretch.


    Attrakt proved in 4k that they had fullfiled all their obligations and had been willing to negotiate at every step and that The Givers had indeed lied to 50/50 on many points (and were in general turbo-shady) and even then they only managed to retrieve 1 girl out of 4.


    And you expect me to believe that Hybe is going to manage it after deliberatly creating a toxic work environment, obviously trying to steal from them/harm their carreers, leaking stuff and running smear campaigns against them?


    Also, weren't they all supposed to be brainwashed by MoriartyHJ and their stage parents?

    Hybe have every right do an audit of it's on their own company. All this "the company worked against NJ" is mostly extrem bullshit. And even if their is some truth in it, it takes a lot to claim they have done things so much wrong so they have breached a contract and also not easy to prove.


    Hybe have done nothing wrong when it comes to NJ, it's just the fans that have some kind of weird fantasy they the evil company have done something wrong.


    "HYBE did nothing wrong! Well, mostly! And it's probably not that bad anyway! And even if it's THAT bad there won't be proof of it anyway!"

    - NOT a company stan! (You can believe him, totally! Well, mostly!)


    - hybe admitted to wrong doing in the LV situation and had to pay for it (reimburse LVMH or smthg like that).

    - hybe treat to pull Apple away from newjeans and that Apple told them to gtfo, it wouldn't take 3yrs to get some testimony from them.

    - The judge, in the first injunction, felt comfortable putting to writing that HYBE had indeed not treated ador/NJ as well as other sublabels/groups.

    - We know that hybe send the pre-debut videos and material to dispatch, because dispatch had to come out and admit it openly when hybe tried to imply thatthey had npothing to do with it and never gave dispatch permission to publish said material


    And I don't need to write more becuase it's all that's needed to show that hybe/ador refuse to hold up part of their responsability to NJ, actively acted AGAINST NJ and that as such NJ should be able to end the exclusivity contracty without owing anything in damages.