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I have taken that quote from Reddit
She didn't deny the texts not being real, okay.
Another ver
"Immediately after being attacked with a patched-up KakaoTalk conversation, the members all sent me text messages of consolation. It wasn't just a text of comfort, it was full of love. The messages of comfort continued until the next morning. The reason I cried out loud was not because I was misunderstood and criticized by strangers, but because I felt sad that everyone in this situation had to go through this worst and most shitty thing. It's unfortunate that there are people who fall for a scheme with obvious intentions, but I think that's the problem of those inciting it and not the fault of those who accept it"
Let's talk about new jeans.
I love those girls.
Their haters.
Fat insecure bitches that they are.
Now, keep only the bolded lines :
Let's talk about new jeans.
Fat insecure bitches that they are.
Does the second block of lines accuratly represent the first? Because this is what MHJ/her lawyers are claiming HYBE did. Any specific texts are real, but removed from context and patched together to make them say something unintended.
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Yeah, you tried to change the subject.
Feel free to think whatever you want of me, random internet person I will never have to actually deal with in any way that matter, ever.
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Trying to change topics?
Here it comes.
I was just so sincerely moved by the obvious and potent distress ARMYs felt at hearing that HYBE had placed MHJ higher in their rankings of esteem and respect that I wished to share the good news the minute I saw it pop up on theqoo.
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This part is crazy. She admits to the texts being real and about them but they still like her??? Is MHJ lying or are NJ just as stupid as she said in those texts lmfao. On a real note, they're most likely manipulated by her but it's getting harder to fell sympathy for NJ when they STILL wanna side with her. Just how far did the gaslighting go?
Do you not notice the first words you quote?
"After being attacked with edited KakaoTalk messages,"
Wich is coherent with her lawyers dismissal of those texts as being "taken out of context".
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Not going to wade in general amount of bullshit and bad faith going on, but an article that should adress the concerns some people expressed previously in this thread (including 1st and 2nd thread when saying that) has dropped in Korea. A journalist was able to visit HYBE's headquarter.
Of note are such : "From the 2nd to the 6th floor, there are music studios for each label, a recording studio, a choreography practice room, a video shooting studio, a vocal practice room, and a styling room. The 7th to 16th floors have office space for general employees. For reasons of trade secrets, coverage of the 2nd to 15th floors was not possible. Security was so thorough that each floor required facial recognition to enter."
There, Big Hit's 15th floor is the highest floor with increased security, while the 16th floor, where ador resides, is a general office space with a library accessible to anyone.
ARMY can stop malding over BTS not being considered the top dog artists or whatever now.
[단독] 시총 11조 회사 클라쓰…BTS 집 '하이브 사옥' 가보니 [윤현주의 主食이 주식]백문불여일견(百聞不如一見). 백 번 듣는 것보다 한 번 보는 게 낫다는 말이다. 가짜뉴스 홍수 속 정보의 불균형을 조금이라도 해소하기 위해 주식 투자 경력 16년11개월 ‘전투개미’가 직접 상장사를 찾아간다. 회사의 사업 현황을 살피고 경영진을 만나 개인투자자들의 궁금증을 해결한다.…v.daum.net -
And here I thought shit was going to calm down during the injunction hearings.
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And how about you answer what I ask instead of saying things I already know...did I say MHJ asked for the albums to be pushed???? Read my last line clown.
I simply asked how come only Aespa is the only one name dropped cause Ive was a bigger competitor so Hybe/Bang should have been focussed on "crushing" them too.
Might simply be a matter of timing.
I'm not going to track down everything, but the texts BHS sent MHJ about stepping on aespa were matched with aespa winning some award, apparently. It might be that when BHS talked to MHJ about "album push", Aespa had the more recent comeback comapred to Ive.
Or maybe BHS just has a hate-boner for SM. edit : Would match with how hybe tried to attract everyone from there, and see them as a bigger competitor, company-wise, while Starship just has Ive.
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Depends on what you mean by "legacy act" but I voted yes for the following reasons :
- any group activity will have to be planned around their solo schedules
- and YG debuted a clear successor for those who want typical idol content
So even if they come back as a group pretty quickly, before it starts to feel like a "reunion tour", they are essentially at that stage of their careers where the group is a 2nd priority.
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what's weird to me is how confident they are in their court case. if everything is as MHJ says and this is a set up we're in for a comeuppance of huge porprotions if they can't prove any of this
Because they don't need to win the court case to save dozens of billions of won, as long as they can stop MHJ from executing her put options long enough their value will decrease sharply. The payout is so huge right now because the growth starts at "near 0", so ador's first 2yrs saw +500% growth. But the growth from yr2 to yr4 will be proportionaly not as exceptional.
MHJ would need to take HYBE back to court and prove that the whole current case was a sham (and not just HYBE "sincerely" reading too much into otherwise legitimate shit) to get back what she could have gotten in the first place.
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My bet is paradis was talking about the big female chat room that may be about sharing nudes of males and/or making fun of tinder profiles and warning each other about men they should be watching out for.
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Just a correction: It was 16 billion, not million, in start up investment.
I was speaking in american dollars, your quote includes it.
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Because they didn't : They invested in ador by buying a 100% stake for ~16millions $, wich then decided how they would use that money.
And before someone comes along saying that's a lot of money for a debut, it's not just money for NJ. It's also supposed to pay to buy the NJ trainees from Source, pay the salaries of the staff, pay for rent in the HYBE building, possibly cover the training of new trainees for the future (ador as supposed to be set up later and start with a boy group i'm pretty sure).
Furthermore people just don't know or understand how much money shit actually costs in a MV. There was a lot of mediaplay made by YG over the MV costs of Pink venom (more than a millions $) only for everyone to end up disappoited because it looked bad. Turns out building sets and renting complicated camera rigs for difficult shots costs a lot of money, while you can make much cheaper but still nice MV by filming in already existing location.
My point is that the numerous MV of NJ ddidn't cost as much as people tend to believe. Hurt was MHJ going around filming the members and it took maybe a day to edit. Cookie is a dance performance in a box with some filters/easy post-prod slapped on it, again pretty cheap. Hype Boy got 4 MV + a dance perf, but at the end of the day they just stretched material that others would have used to make a single MV. And Attention, again, didn't require ador to create sets (and all the costs attached to it).
They also saved money by not doing much pre-debut promotion. People like to compare Nj's debut MVs with Le Sserafim's debut, but fail to consider that Le Sserafim had that whole debut documentary in the wing and that does, in fact, cost money to produce :
- an overall director for the doc
- cameras to film + light/sound engineers to record (you can skip the sound guys for MVs because you are slapping the studio sound over it anyway)
- editors (I have not watched it all, but it was several 20min+ episodes right? Around 2 hours of watchtime total?). They actually end up with more material/work to go through than for MV I would bet.
- then promoting THAT
- You can pretty much liken it to BP's "Light up the sky" overall, it's going to cost money to produce
People are seeing the reaction Nj's debut achieved compared to others and extrapolate from it that their budget/ressources allocated were out of this world, but the reality is just that the budgets were probably not too dissimilar and that its just that the choices made on where to spend money paid off better.
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Illit had content before March 16th. The album packaging was known, they had photoshoots, fashion week appearance and even a brand endorsement deal, some of wich was specifically mentioned by MHJ as being part of tracing the work she did for NJ.
Here is a google search for Illit before March 16th.
And here is an AKP article about how people are seeing NJ in Illit dating March 1st.
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Your entire account is in this thread, so 100% of your posts are about NJ/MHJ/ador and you try to drop that line?
Mirror, glass houses, pick your metaphor.
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I think that we all understand what manners are, and that the logical and respectful thing to do if someone greets you is greeting them back, the issue here is that the accusation is about mistreatment, not about lack of manners.
Someone considering not greeting as mistreatment, with the amount of shit that you to endure in kpop industry, is hilarious at the same time that concerning.
It's not about lack of manners. BHS seems quite able to act mannerful when meeting LSF, amongst others. When that sort of shit only happens to a specific target, it's singling them out. And it becomes part of something called "workplace harassment". Especially when done by the boss.
But because your oppas were treated like shit then nobody has a right to complain when the people holding their exclusive contract and future in their hand want to screw them over, I guess.
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If I wanted to drag MHJ, I would bring up the necklace she brought NJ and herself for their first christmas after debut. There was supposed to 1 for each girl and one for herself (a bit creepy but ok), but then there were only 5 ready and one that would come later. And instead of doing the obvious and waiting for hers (or just leaving it as 1 for each girl and MHJ staying out of it), one of the girls ended up having to wait for hers while MHJ got to play at being part of the cool firend group.
See how I used MHJ's own action that she shared herself and not some 4dimensional theory based on faulty translation and twitter mobthink?
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I'm going to bring in the topic of language here because I see that some people are still misunderstanding how the word 예뻐 is used. 예뻐 is not just used for pretty but also for cute, adorable, lovable. Like for example "예뻐하다", this could also means "사랑스럽고 귀엽다". 예뻐 has more meaning than just pretty; it's just a more common understanding/meaning but not exclusively used as such. You'll see a lot of this if you watched Fuabo or Bao family videos (panda bear videos) that the caretakers use this word a lot but it does not always mean that they're saying pretty. It's fine if you don't understand and rely on someone else but know that you are likely going to miss some important nuances. And that is why good translators are worth every penny. A good translator has a strong command of both languages, cultural understanding, and subject matter expertise.
You don't even need a good translator. Just a working brain to interpret what google translate is telling you. Is it really that hard to understand that when the funky translation is giving you "she was so pretty back then, even more than now" what is really meant is "cute" as in "she was so cute back then, even more than now" wich is what absolutely everyone has said about absolutely everyone they ever knew as kid. Ever.
Like, it reminds me of my high school history teacher that inevitably inserted her grandkids into every lesson she gave, but it's not exactly peak creepiness.
