Min Heejin is a terrible person, does not respect NewJeans nor does she have a motherly nature to them like she sells herself as, her relationship with them is deeply disturbing, she will throw anyone under the bus to make herself look good, takes credit for everything good and refuses any form of accountability for when things go wrong, etc. Had she been against anybody, it'd be universally that she's a liability and needs to go
Following MHJ is going to end in a trainwreck for NewJeans, it's just going to crash out much later than if they'd stayed in Hybe
But "she's a woman" yada yada "she's an artist" yada yada "working conditions" yada yada...
Display MoreMin Heejin is a terrible person, does not respect NewJeans nor does she have a motherly nature to them like she sells herself as, her relationship with them is deeply disturbing, she will throw anyone under the bus to make herself look good, takes credit for everything good and refuses any form of accountability for when things go wrong, etc. Had she been against anybody, it'd be universally that she's a liability and needs to go
Following MHJ is going to end in a trainwreck for NewJeans, it's just going to crash out much later than if they'd stayed in Hybe
But "she's a woman" yada yada "she's an artist" yada yada "working conditions" yada yada...
Welcome to the real world. If everyone had moral standards all of society would collapse in an instant. But the fact remains is that MHJ is the devil NewJeans are more comfortable siding with them the devils at HYBE. How disgusted would the members be having men like BSH hovering around them, when they are not any better or even worse than MHJ considering men are most likely to commit vile acts than women.
Welcome to the real world. If everyone had moral standards all of society would collapse in an instant. But the fact remains is that MHJ is the devil NewJeans are more comfortable siding with them the devils at HYBE. How disgusted would the members be having men like BSH hovering around them, when they are not any better or even worse than MHJ considering men are most likely to commit vile acts than women.
That's great Shubs
MHJ isn't a saint, but NJs is her dream work, she idealized everything and chose the members herself so out of pure love or not, she is the one that did/will do everything to grow out NJs into THE group as we are seeing since debut. Do I like her? I have no personal feelings towards her, good or bad, but when comparing to Hybe I positively incline towards her bc in my mind she'll never be as bad as Hybe incels. Out of all of them she is the least worst.
Does she take the credit? Sure, it's her job, all her job, she poured herself in this. The members are still new, but I don't think they are dumb, if they are siding with her is bc she is their best option. They don't need to be with her forever, maybe after some years they'll separate, but for now she is doing all she can to secure their work, something Hybe, with proof, wants to eliminate.
Display MoreMin Heejin is a terrible person, does not respect NewJeans nor does she have a motherly nature to them like she sells herself as, her relationship with them is deeply disturbing, she will throw anyone under the bus to make herself look good, takes credit for everything good and refuses any form of accountability for when things go wrong, etc. Had she been against anybody, it'd be universally that she's a liability and needs to go
Following MHJ is going to end in a trainwreck for NewJeans, it's just going to crash out much later than if they'd stayed in Hybe
But "she's a woman" yada yada "she's an artist" yada yada "working conditions" yada yada...
This and i don't even stan anyone in hybe. I'd like to add that she comes across as very narcissistic and manipulative. Hybe is JUST as wrong as her but since this question is about her that's my 2 cents as an outside observer.
This comes just in time for her next yap session today. Stay tuned.
I hate to plug reddit but this list really is convenient if, like me, you barely knew anything about MHJ prior to this: https://www.reddit.com/r/kpopt…epy_behaviour_with_links/
I don't need to say much else because you can see from replies in here what people think on both sides, very convenient!
She just gives me a bit of the ick - problematic behaviour in the past, a massive ego and a tendency to oversell her own creative genius as the reason for her artists’ success, rather than their talent.
Now, is she any worse than any other CEO? Probably not. I don’t think you get to that position without a touch of narcissism and ego… but she’s been so in the public eye, we’re certainly exposed to it a lot!
she's the OG genius, that's why 
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mhj made njs and mhj is gonna take them to new firmaments in 2025! and that despite hybe trashes who tried to sabotage njs since they were rookies! and obviously tried to bury them and replace them with illit in 2024. (long hiatus, stolen data, short and sabotaged combacks). but mhj said NADA!
mhjs birthed njs once, and she is gonna save them and birth them again a second time 
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She's not worse than the average CEO of any company. Actually, pretty sure she's one of the best considering Hybe got YEARS of her private conversations and the worst they could find is her talking with a shaman and her swearing around with her friends, they had to manipulate screenshoots to put her in a worse position.
I'm completely sure if we could get the private convs of any other CEO we would see waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse stuff. Actually not even a CEO, but almost any individual have content in their private conversations that would put them in a really delicate situation, and that content dropped out of context could completely destroy the public image of anyone, and when I say anyone I mean literally anyone.
That being said, I don't think she's a saint, she's egotistic and I've seen her committing mistakes... But this public judgement she's living constantly has to be insufferable, she's being talked about as much or more than Bang PD or the CEOs of the Big 3 ever has when they've been involved in way more dirt. Also given the complication of the situations she has lived these last months I find the mistakes understandable, people don't empathyze when we talk about these things. People blaming her for mentioning their favs (Illit and LSFM) while defending herself after Hybe started a public campaign to destroy her public image, or shading her for swearing and making disgusting jokes or comments (who hasn't done some disgusting comment while talking with a friend? Come on) in the exposed screenshoots that were supposed to be private convs with people she has confidence with are dumb, they don't think about the context and just focus on the action itself.
And of course, NJ and their parents know way more than me or anyone here, and if they trust on her, I trust too.
And all that aside, she's one of the best professionals in Kpop, but I know it's not the topic.
Basically what Daisy said sums it up for me.
I'm on a big Warhammer 40K lore kick right.
MHJ is the Emperor of Mankind. Surrounded by fanatical followers utterly and blindly devoted to her.
Fighting an endless war against the much more evil, much corrupt forces of Chaos (Nurgle in this case to be specific, iykyk).
But much like the Emperor of Mankind, just because she is fighting an oppressively evil force that does terrible things does NOT mean she is the "good guy" at all. She's just the "better option".
Like any other human, she makes mistakes and has major flaws. But those mistakes are amplified due to the spotlight she's under. And as an artist myself, in literature, I can empathize with the obsessiveness and "taking all the credit" flaw.
And I think the bad and good judgements are lame. People are just doing what they think works in their world and given their situation.
I feel the same about Hybe as well.
But I'd rather see Hybe/BSH and MHJ duke it out in one go. I despise CEOs that are MIA when shit happens in their company. So props on MHJ for being there.
All I hope is this is over and we know what happens to NJs.
She is a terrible mentor to her group and sounds like a narcissist to me. She also does not take accountability because what tf does you being "ENTF" and "human too" have to do with the fact that you tried to tarnish other groups image.
And yet the founder of your favorite group is a confirmed lying scumbag, manipulative and malicious malcontent, who values profits and prestige over the health and well being of the many artists under his company's umbrella, who is too busy meeting up with BJ streamers and defrauding investors of hundreds of millions of dollars, while proclaiming himself the King of K-Pop, to TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY for his many, many ACTUAL crimes.
MHJ is an amazing mentor and artist, which is why so many are fiercely loyal to her even if it means offending the shit stain loser excuses for humans running HYBE. And 99.9% of people working in the idol business are narcissistic to some extent. DUH.
All this time has passed and you HYBE bootlickers are still cramming Bang's fat fucking foot down your throats to defend him and repeat the same droll and derivative nonsense he spread to defame MHJ.
And yet the founder of your favorite group is a confirmed lying scumbag, manipulative and malicious malcontent, who values profits and prestige over the health and well being of the many artists under his company's umbrella, who is too busy meeting up with BJ streamers and defrauding investors of hundreds of millions of dollars, while proclaiming himself the King of K-Pop, to TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY for his many, many ACTUAL crimes.
MHJ is an amazing mentor and artist, which is why so many are fiercely loyal to her even if it means offending the shit stain loser excuses for humans running HYBE. And 99.9% of people working in the idol business are narcissistic to some extent. DUH.
All this time has passed and you HYBE bootlickers are still cramming Bang's fat fucking foot down your throats to defend him and repeat the same droll and derivative nonsense he spread to defame MHJ.
Knew you would be here. Why hello.
Last I checked this thread was about Min Heejin and why I dislike her. 
And she is not a good mentor because she made those girls entirely dependant on her. Without her, they're nothing and you can enjoy that being the case but it's not really a good outcome for NJ.
Look at how the manipulative, lying scumbag of a human being (I'd say MHJ also fits this one tbh) mentored his group. Also Ive never heard him call himself ki g of kpop lol where do y'all get this stuff from? Maybe cause I don't follow him as closely as you do.
If to expose the truth tarnishes any group's image maybe the fault is not of who exposes that truth, but of the people managing those groups. Almost everything she talked about in her press conference turned out to be real and there're probably more things to come looking at Hybe's current situation.
It's always easier to find an outside target and blame her of everything I guess, sadly we're used to everybody staying quiet so they don't hurt this perfect "Kpop image" companies made and we've in our head which is completely false.
If to expose the truth tarnishes any group's image maybe the fault is not of who exposes that truth, but of the people managing those groups. Almost everything she talked about in her press conference turned out to be real and there're probably more things to come looking at Hybe's current situation.
It's always easier to find an outside target and blame her of everything I guess, sadly we're used to everybody staying quiet so they don't hurt this perfect "Kpop image" companies made and we've in our head which is completely false.
The first I heard about this fight between MHJ and HYBE was in relation to an audit due to her plans to take over ADOR. Please tell me how it evolved to this point.
And MHJ was definitely malicious. I do not understand why y'all refuse to admit it. I remember the article that came out the same day calling ILLIT an "imitation", not wanting them to be NJ's sister group or have any relation whatsoever to NJ. It was from ADOR under the direction of MHJ. And I was like "damn, but what about your evil plans tho?"
Rereading the article now there's a part about ADOR not allowing anyone to copy NJ's achievements.
How do you copy someone's achievements tho 🤣🤣🤣? Probably cause ILLITs song was a success?? But to claim that's copying achievements ? Like damn tho 😂
She won the injunction regarding the case and the court said it was literally impossible she was doing that and they told Hybe they couldn't fire her. That's why instead of firing her Hybe had to change the board of Ador and vote to remove her with the new board which happened months later. Now they're in other legal case to judge if this was legal or not.
And MHJ was definitely malicious. I do not understand why y'all refuse to admit it. I remember the article that came out the same day calling ILLIT an "imitation", not wanting them to be NJ's sister group or have any relation whatsoever to NJ. It was from ADOR under the direction of MHJ. And I was like damn, but what about your evil plans tho?"
These are literally her words, explaining the situation, if you've been misinformed I'd ask you to check several sources properly before joining a discussion about it:
She has always defended her work, like anyone would do. Does it hurt other groups image? Yes it's really possible, but it's not her fault the company is messing up. When the Hybe internal documents were exposed months later it was proven Belift indeed took Ador's content to create Illit and Hybe was talking about replacing NJ, so did you want them to stay quiet? Wouldn't you defend yourself too? It sucks other groups got involved indeed, I wish no idols got hurt at all in this mess because they've no fault of anything, but it's not realistic and impossible to explain the MHJ/NJ situation without naming them, we're talking about court cases and millions of dollars in penalties and fees, not about Twitter fanwars among 15 years olds, they HAVE to mention them.
Edit: Let's remember all this started with an INTERNAL COMPLAINT of MHJ, and Hybe was the one who started to make everything public btw.
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Last I checked this thread was about Min Heejin and why I dislike her.
And she is not a good mentor because she made those girls entirely dependant on her. Without her, they're nothing and you can enjoy that being the case but it's not really a good outcome for NJ.
Look at how the manipulative, lying scumbag of a human being (I'd say MHJ also fits this one tbh) mentored his group. Also Ive never heard him call himself ki g of kpop lol where do y'all get this stuff from? Maybe cause I don't follow him as closely as you do.
You're celebrating a person guilty of a DUI in your signature and want to virtue signal about MHJ in this thread, regarding subjects you have literally been poorly informed about FOR OVER A YEAR?
I no one of the cons of the digital platforms we all connect through is the fact any ignorant opinion can be expressed and proliferate with zero fact checking or credibility, but you have had SO LONG to educate yourself. It's willfull ignorance at this point.
The girls being loyal to their mentor, benefactor and the only executive at HYBE who actually CARED ABOUT THEM being spun as them being "worthless" without her is some repugnant, ignorant trash. Typical of the most toxic members of your fandom.
You're celebrating a person guilty of a DUI in your signature and want to virtue signal about MHJ in this thread, regarding subjects you have literally been poorly informed about FOR OVER A YEAR?
I no one of the cons of the digital platforms we all connect through is the fact any ignorant opinion can be expressed and proliferate with zero fact checking or credibility, but you have had SO LONG to educate yourself. It's willfull ignorance at this point.
The girls being loyal to their mentor, benefactor and the only executive at HYBE who actually CARED ABOUT THEM being spun as them being "worthless" without her is some repugnant, ignorant trash. Typical of the most toxic members of your fandom.
Ah yes of course, attack Min Yoongi because he fell over his scooter in front of his house after drinking. Because you need to feel superior somehow. Lmaooo always the go-to of kpop stans. It ain't going to change my opinion about Min Heejin.
Display MoreShe won the injunction regarding the case and the court said it was literally impossible she was doing that and they told Hybe they couldn't fire her. That's why instead of firing her Hybe had to change the board of Ador and vote to remove her with the new board which happened months later. Now they're in other legal case to judge if this was legal or not.
These are literally her words, explaining the situation, if you've been misinformed I'd ask you to check several sources properly before joining a discussion about it:
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She has always defended her work, like anyone would do. Does it hurt other groups image? Yes it's really possible, but it's not her fault the company is messing up. When the Hybe internal documents were exposed months later it was proven Belift indeed took Ador's content to create Illit and Hybe was talking about replacing NJ, so did you want them to stay quiet? Wouldn't you defend yourself too? It sucks other groups got involved indeed, I wish no idols got hurt at all in this mess because they've no fault of anything, but it's not realistic and impossible to explain the MHJ/NJ situation without naming them, we're talking about court cases and millions of dollars in penalties and fees, not about Twitter fanwars among 15 years olds, they HAVE to mention them.
Edit: Let's remember all this started with an INTERNAL COMPLAINT of MHJ, and Hybe was the one who started to make everything public btw.
Did she ever apologise for getting these other acts involved ?
I don't give a shit about changing your opinion. I just wanted to let it be known how ignorant and uninformed it was. And yes, I will bring up the fact you're doing mental gymnastics to defend and down play the fact the idol in your signature COMMITTED A CRIME AND OPERATED A VEHICLE WHILE DRUNK, while sitting in here calling MHJ a horrible mentor and influence.
You have zero credibility. And yes, by default, I feel and am vastly superior to people who would try to sweep a DUI under the rug due to their parasocial delusional attachment to grown ass men who should fucking know better than to drink and start driving anything around.
I watched the video. She didn't apologise. And ILLIT ain't the only group implicated. I did watch the other video where they opened the floor for her to apologise but she decided to go ahead with "I'm human too". Sis is not sorry. Lol she used as many tools as she could have. Those texts were illegal ? But given the fact that they do have her plans in them sketched out, I'd say the audit was warranted. I'm not going to hold onto plagiarism accusations. I could literally say the same thing MHJ is saying for a whole lot of groups including New jeans that took inspiration from BTS. That got deals AFTER BTS.
When BTS was confronted with copying allegations it almost ruined their career. The fans were definitely trying. When people copying BTS was brought up in conversation JK said "it's fine we dont do the same thing twice anyway" 😂 yall really thought NJ was gonna get buried just because of the success of magnetic song? Lool
Anyway I'm not here to write long winded replies lol. Trust me I can write a WHOLE lot. But the point is. The lady was malicious AF and she didn't apologise.
I watched the video. She didn't apologise. And ILLIT ain't the only group implicated. I did watch the other video where they opened the floor for her to apologise but she decided to go ahead with "I'm human too". Sis is not sorry. Lol she used as many tools as she could have. Those texts were illegal ? But given the fact that they do have her plans in them sketched out, I'd say the audit was warranted. I'm not going to hold onto plagiarism accusations. I could literally say the same thing MHJ is saying for a whole lot of groups including New jeans that took inspiration from BTS. That got deals AFTER BTS.
When BTS confronted copying allegations it almost ruined their career. The fans were definitely trying. When people copying BTS was brought up in conversation JK said "it's fine we dont do the same thing twice anyway" 😂 yall really thought NJ was gonna get buried just because of the success of magnetic song? Lool
...what? You know, I wished you used as many tools as you could have. Starting with critical thinking and common sense, because both are notably and painfully absent from any of your messages I have ever had the misfortune of reading on this topic.
There was no feasible fucking way for MHJ to defend herself against the very public and shameless slander HYBE THREW AT HER than to mention the groups involved in the INTERNAL dispute that triggered the fall out.
HYBE went nuclear first, and now you want to demonize and villify a creative for standing up to the multi billion dollar conglomerate that thought it was above the law (a take of mine that has aged like the finest wine) and bully her into absolute RUIN?
NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT BTS'S copying allegations. Given that the CROOKS behind Big Hit and now HYBE were involved, there is probably some semblance of truth to them anyway. They're utterly incapable of being original, which is the true genesis of this dispute.
They blatantly stole and copied MHJ's work and then tried to sabotage and destroy her career and the group she led to the greatest debut in the history of the industry. Those petty, insecure, and downright evil men running the company you're willing to die on a hill for are the true villains in this story, but you have been obsessing over MHJ, as if we all wouldn't fucking know who she was talking about if she said Girl Group A, B, or C.
Be for real.
I smell a WP 
I watched the video. She didn't apologise. And ILLIT ain't the only group implicated. I did watch the other video where they opened the floor for her to apologise but she decided to go ahead with "I'm human too". Sis is not sorry. Lol she used as many tools as she could have. Those texts were illegal ? But given the fact that they do have her plans in them sketched out, I'd say the audit was warranted. I'm not going to hold onto plagiarism accusations. I could literally say the same thing MHJ is saying for a whole lot of groups including New jeans that took inspiration from BTS. That got deals AFTER BTS.
When BTS confronted copying allegations it almost ruined their career. The fans were definitely trying. When people copying BTS was brought up in conversation JK said "it's fine we dont do the same thing twice anyway" 😂 yall really thought NJ was gonna get buried just because of the success of magnetic song? Lool
Anyway I'm not here to write long winded replies lol. Trust me I can write a WHOLE lot. But the point is. The lady was malicious AF and she didn't apologise.
I'm not sure what you didn't understand about what I explained.
The court ruled it was impossible for MHJ to take over Ador, forget about the (doctored and revealed by Kim Jinho btw) chats.
We're not talking about people arguing in Twitter about plagiarism, it was exposed in the national assembly Belift took Ador's content without consent. NJ was not gonna get buried by the success of Magnetic or any song, I repeat, did you check the tweet? MHJ explains perfectly the problem and you're straight up ignoring it and talking about other things.
I have no idea about BTS' plagiarism cases but I'm pretty sure it had nothing to do with their own label stealing documents to create other group and then replace them. I'd also ask you not to bring BTS into the discussion because they're completely unrelated and we know how it turns out, I'm not a hater of the guys.
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