Australia loves to hype up anything Margot Robbie achieves because she’s Australian but why aren’t they giving the same treatment to Australian Kpop idols? Like Skz is achieving big things globally, or Lily is considered the most talented vocalists ever in 4th gen, but Australians aren’t paying attention. All Japanese idols got love in their home country, but why can’t Australian idols got the same love from their people?
Is it weird Australia isn’t hyping up Australian idols like Bang Chan, Lily, Rose,…?
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Same for Hanni and Danielle. They’re probably too busy fending off crocodiles and spiders
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Kpop in the western world is perceived as only what Asian tweens get into.
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Australia loves to hype up anything Margot Robbie achieves because she’s Australian but why aren’t they giving the same treatment to Australian Kpop idols? Like Skz is achieving big things globally, or Lily is considered the most talented vocalists ever in 4th gen, but Australians aren’t paying attention. All Japanese idols got love in their home country, but why can’t Australian idols got the same love from their people?
Can tell you aren't Australian.
AFL and NRL finals are in progress in Australia. No-one cares who wins a VMA. Seriously.
Also dude compares Margot Robbie who is in a billion dollar grossing movie and a top hollywood actress to a niche musical genre group who won a c-tier musical award. Cmon man.
If they win a Grammy you may see some reporting, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
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Holy shit, a bbb998 post thats actually interesting?!
Well strike me roan! Stone the flamin' crows!
It's something I've long wondered. Australian media generally LOVES playing up the "local boy"/"local girl" gone big narrative, even going so far as to stealing New Zealanders and calling them Aussies if they get big (and then ditching them and calling them Kiwis again when they do embarrassing things.
The media here LOVES Margot Robbie and Chris Hemsworth and *dry heave* Rebel Wilson. Tones and I, who made that fuck awful Dance Monkey song that had a bit of virality a year or two back? LOCAL BAND GONE BIG.
If an Australian celeb manages to do an audible fart in an elevator in Hollywood, the media and mainstream here froth themselves into an absolute wankfest over "The Aussie whose the next big thing"
We still bang on about god damned RUBY ROSE as if she's anyone of anything anymore.
But Rose? A member of the biggest girl group in the world? A model and brand ambassador for some of the biggest fashion houses in the world? A record breaker in her own right? Someone who repeatedly has referred to Australia as home? Crickets
Dani and Hanni? Members of kpop next big thing and heir apparent to the reign of Blackpink? Also record breakers? WHO THE HELL ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT?
Felix and Bangchan? They sound like cartoon cats arent they?
Meanwhile, the media is like "Rebel Wilson STUNS on the beach in new swimsuit after amazing weight loss, learn about her diet secrets!!!!!"
Search for articles about "Most followed Australians on social media" and you get this:
We have for some reason decided that Jason Derulo is Australian because he is a judge on reality singing shows here...
But Rose isn't big enough or "Australian enough". If pressed the excuse is "she was born in New Zealand". Yeah so was Russel Crowe!
I think theres two main reasons Australian mainstream ignores Aussies in kpop. One is that kpop is really not mainstream here at all. We are one of the toughest markets for kpop acts to chart reliably in and no kpop groups (even BTS and Blackpink) are considered "household names" here or have much recognition by normies.
Second is just good ole fashioned Australian racism/xenophobia. Watch any Australian media like news broadcasts or Australian produced drama. It's a sea of Caucasian faces for the most part, with some tokenism throw in.
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Margot Robbie deleted her insta account June 2021 with 27m followers. At the time Rose had 40m. She now has 74m. It's hard to say what Margot would be at if she kept her insta open, but I dare say it wouldn't be close to Rose.
If we instead compare "musicians/singers" the most followed Australian in that regard is... Iggy Azalea
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I mean Margot robbie is a white person, these people are not so that bias will be there
Also, Australia's k-pop consumption could be less than other western countries
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Kpop isnt considered cool or mainstream among westernised societies.
In fact, my cynical opinion is that even when (most) American celebs cosy up to kpop idols, it’s either for social media clout or to seem progressive and unracist like ooh look at me appreciating this Asian music and their singers. I may be wrong tho, in fact i would love to be wrong on this.
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Because people in Australia don't know who those people are. Margot is a global A lister.
It's different than say idols from Thailand like BamBam and Lisa getting hyped by domestic media or Japanese idols like Misamo seeing the same affection. The people of Thailand and Japan know these people to some extent. They are relevant and worth hyping...it isn't the same.
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Because kpop is a niche
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Because these kpop idols aint white
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They choose what things seem cool and huge. Margot Robbie is known in Hollywood. She played significant role in big projects like Barbie and Suicide Squad. So is Chris Hemsworth. I remember they claimed Ms Philippines Catriona Gray as Australia’s Pride when she won Miss Universe 2018. I think for kpop there is still long way to go in acknowledging it as something cool or pride-boosting, it is still niche in AU.
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Ironically Dami Im also seeked a Korean career, knowing it would lead her to a greater status, appearing in various Korean programs in 2015 and 2016 but there were no takers.
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Can tell you aren't Australian.
AFL and NRL finals are in progress in Australia. No-one cares who wins a VMA. Seriously.
Also dude compares Margot Robbie who is in a billion dollar grossing movie and a top hollywood actress to a niche musical genre group who won a c-tier musical award. Cmon man.
If they win a Grammy you may see some reporting, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
literally. no one gaf about kpop LOL
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The fact y’all still think k-pop is huge outside of few groups is hilarious.
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Because people in Australia don't know who those people are. Margot is a global A lister.
It's different than say idols from Thailand like BamBam and Lisa getting hyped by domestic media or Japanese idols like Misamo seeing the same affection. The people of Thailand and Japan know these people to some extent. They are relevant and worth hyping...it isn't the same.
But Skz is possibly the biggest musical star from Australia right now? Like Thai people are proud of Lisa for everything she achieves, Japanese people are proud of what Sakura/Misamo achieves, why aren’t Australians also proud of their biggest musical artists currently, Bang Chan and Felix? You can’t think of any other Australian musicians that are currently selling 6 Million albums or wins a VMA.
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Because it's night time there they are still sleeping
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cos they are Kpop, not Apop
Korean people like their idols to become K idols, and represent Korean industry even if they come from other countries.
Even Rosé walks a fine line about that. She likes to say that at home, in Australia, she learnt to speak first Korean language, and then english at school. I know she does it: 1- because is true. 2: because koreans like to hear that
But then Australians might not like it that much...oh like we are second best to the idol: heha!
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But Skz is possibly the biggest musical star from Australia right now? Like Thai people are proud of Lisa for everything she achieves, Japanese people are proud of what Sakura/Misamo achieves, why aren’t Australians also proud of their biggest musical artists currently, Bang Chan and Felix? You can’t think of any other Australian musicians that are currently selling 6 Million albums or wins a VMA.
He's not white.
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I'm not Australian, but I live in another western country, the United States.
Mainstream U.S. media isn't necessarily hyping up its American idols, such as Yunjin, Tiffany Young, Jessica Jung, or Krystal Jung, either. They don't see it as American representation; they just see it as Asians "going back to their motherland" for career opportunities even if those Asian Americans have every right to call themselves American.
You probably see American K-pop fans hyping up American K-pop idols, especially Yunjin lately, for being relatable, but that's a niche demographic.
The simple answer is that American media doesn't care about Asian entertainment that much. It's probably not so different for Australia.
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Something I haven't seen anyone mention is that these Australian idols' careers did not have roots in Australia. They didn't train in Australia. They didn't work their way up in Australia. They moved to Korea and started their journeys there.
The key difference between them and Margot Robbie is that Margot's career was homegrown. These idols' were not. Australians did not know of them prior to the global success. Meanwhile Australians knew Margot all along due to her in-house work, so when she went big internationally, it hit closer to home.
I'm sure Australians' love for Margot is comparable to Japanese people's support for Sakura. Sakura made a name for herself in Japan prior to her K-pop idol life. I'll say that Asian countries are generally more aware about K-pop, so they're likelier to care when their countrymen or countrywomen find success in the industry.
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besides the answers already given, the fact they're australian probably isn't common knowledge either. Like, even US news reporters didn't know Bang Chan and Felix were from Australia and commented about their "English accents" in the middle of an interview. They just assume everyone has Korean nationality if they're Asian in a kpop group and don't bother looking things up
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besides the answers already given, the fact they're australian probably isn't common knowledge either. Like, even US news reporters didn't know Bang Chan and Felix were from Australia and commented about their "English accents" in the middle of an interview. They just assume everyone has Korean nationality if they're Asian in a kpop group and don't bother looking things up
Yup. The average person, even someone who's generally into pop culture, looks at K-pop and just associate it with Korean nationality. I've come across people who are even confused how a Chinese person can be in a K-pop group.
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Something I haven't seen anyone mention is that these Australian idols' careers did not have roots in Australia. They didn't train in Australia. They didn't work their way up in Australia. They moved to Korea and started their journeys there.
The key difference between them and Margot Robbie is that Margot's career was homegrown. These idols' were not. Australians did not know of them prior to the global success. Meanwhile Australians knew Margot all along due to her in-house work, so when she went big internationally, it hit closer to home.
I'm sure Australians' love for Margot is comparable to Japanese people's support for Sakura. Sakura made a name for herself in Japan prior to her K-pop idol life. I'll say that Asian countries are generally more aware about K-pop, so they're likelier to care when their countrymen or countrywomen find success in the industry.
this is a good point. I don't think it's a bad thing for Australia to focus its praise on people who came in up the Australian music scene, because it's a small and talented scene on its own
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