Everything about this picture is sending me
The location looks like a community hall and the set up awful.
You then just have a bunch of old blokes which is all the members will basically see as it’s such a small gathering
Is this really what some kpop agencies are out here selling 
Which BP English release has done well on kcharts? Unless you are calling Pink Venom an English song?
You pose an interesting question I would love to see people share their thoughts on
Why stop, we can even continue to follow this logic even more.
Twice’s holy grail that is Japan. Stray Kids now sell much more than them there and will have toured to more people in Japan this year than Twice. They had 2.5m applications for their Japan dates as well whilst Twice had 1.2m applications for theirs.
Are Stray Kids the more popular act in Japan?
So does Stray Kids doing a bigger tour than Twice have ever managed in SK make them a more popular act than Twice domestically at the moment
Since it started favouring a certain subset of fandoms
Trying to take a balanced view on things isn’t the kpop way
Display MoreWell not quite, because you either paraphrased poorly or missed the point.
I said that songs with official MV's, like the recent IVE one, aren't 'b-sides'. They are singles, in this case a pre-release single.
It still doesn't invalidate my claim here that a pre-release single is hyping up the main event. It's literally the job - to serve as promotion for the group and for their upcoming album drop. In fact you could even argue that is partially even the purpose of main title songs - people like the song, think it's good, buy the album or invest in the group - that's how the group makes their money.
So yeah. It's a single, a pre-release single, and it's part of the promotional period leading up to the main album release and main title track, so people going on about 'no promo' are quite frankly - dense.
I’m not talking about what it should be doing or whether it counts as promo or not.
You mentioned charting above, inferring you don’t think it’s always comparable despite them all being singles with MVs. And I just remember, maybe wrongly, you fervently pushing the idea that if they have MVs they are singles that are comparable hence people holding them to the same standards shouldn’t be surprising to you.
Could be wrong though, too much effort to go navigate the thread to check for something I don’t care too much about so will assume I misinterpreted
You guys know pre-releases are also promotion for the main single right?
This expectation that every pre-release needs to chart as well as the main track is kind of strange.
People banging on about 'lack of promo'. The pre-release IS the promo for christ's sake.
Were you not the user that was claiming every song with an MV is comparable, regardless of whether it’s an official title or not? Or was that someone else.
I remember reading some point around that itt
It’s actually impressive how they keep doing worse every comeback.
I can see why their labels are happy for them to stay as Kepler and not go back with any urgency. Don’t think I’ve even seen a single post on their digitals 
Lisa hasn’t got the visuals Korean’s usually praise
An English title track with a Korean version, funny times
that viral archery video was the peak of her career
She is one of the members that if she didn’t renew with Twice, probably would just move into irrelevance very quickly.
Visuals only get you so far if you don’t branch out or provide something outside of that
They’re not popular still so their companies don’t care to have them back currently.
Makes sense. Might as well let someone else push and promote on the hope they do become popular and then take them back if it happens
I think it’s more she’s no longer relevant rather than not being a visual anymore
I honestly can’t recall the last notable thing she did that non-fans would be aware of or care about. Odd career path.
2018 should have been iKon not BP
no chance, hybe is not even close to be as useless, have the lack of vision and creativity and be as cheap as jyp, yg wont have that luck anymore, it will be very hard for any other company to break hybe hegemony in kpop. it took jyp 3 years to put twice discography on spotify? Newjeans has already spent more time on the biggest spotify's playlists than blackpink something jyp has not given twice 1 single day... no twice solo brand deals with luxury brands during their first 7 years allowing bp to monopolize that area? Newjeans got like 10 in their first 100 days and will eventually be the bp equivalent for 4th gen... no tiktok until 2020? no american company until 2020?
and you can count every single mistake jyp committed with twice and look how hybe completely avoids it and even do it better than yg, again yg wont have the luck of the competence being a company more occupied with recovering from their lowest point and focused on creating more successful groups, newjeans have all of hybe's attention, money and connections which is trying to making them the next bts, baemon wont be competition unless a miracle happens, they would compete with aespa, lesserafim and ive while newjeans rules the girl group market for at least the next 5 years.
This is the correct view
They have already created a more solid base. I also think people underestimate the range of their music so far and the fact that they are already known for their music beyond title tracks.
When was the last time only 1 girl group was in the daily top 10? Feels like months
I.e. they’re waiting on BP contract news before they debut them
Bruh.
Did he not live with her mum during this time. How are they going to be together all that time yet live separately.
Next time your punk ass wants to say shady shit QUOTE me. Wasn't even aware of your cowardness until I come back wanting to update with now FORTY LINKS just for your dumbass.
Note how you’re the only user that brings this level of argument to this thread with your tragic posting habits
Everyone else and other BTS fans are capable of posting in a way that’s sensible. You just spam this thread.
