Objectively speaking what Wendy did was worse than Giselle

lol it was

I don't think Wendy got let off easy from what I see she's still labelled a racist or racially ignorant today :shyy:

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I don't think Wendy got let off easy from what I see she's still labelled a racist or racially ignorant today :shyy:

But she never apologized

Giselle was wrong but I know she isn’t racist she didn’t do on purpose

But Wendy clearly didn’t feel ashamed she did it twice with a straight face

She already paid. Literally ksksksks

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But she never apologized

Giselle was wrong but I know she isn’t racist she didn’t do on purpose

But Wendy clearly didn’t feel ashamed she did it twice with a straight face

Because she’s not popular and SM doesn’t care about RV’s international fans. When it doesn’t affect her why address the issue.

People are allowed to think these idol apologies are genuine but for me everything is about PR.

Been wary of her ever since. Like Water was one of my favorite songs this year but I'm just never gonna be into her as a person

People literally always bring that up just like you always do and there's literally a decent amount of the fandom that exclude her like she doesn't even exist and you think she got off easy? Liar.

It’s weird cause she got more backlash during the last 2 years than when it actually happened

This shit again

What's the purpose of this thread ?

Try to get apology from her or hate her or cancel her ?

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are you Asian by any chance?

Ohh, Asians don't know abt how serious Racism or any other discriminations?

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Because she’s not popular and SM doesn’t care about RV’s international fans. When it doesn’t affect her why address the issue.

People are allowed to think these idol apologies are genuine but for me everything is about PR.

I kinda agree, SM doesn't care Red Velvet international grow. So that's why doesn't make Wendy apologize probably.

objectively stop speaking

shut up and stop with the fake concern

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Now your fandom is trying to act like Giselle is so brave and righteous for apologizing even thought y'all were literally saying there was nothing to apologize for. But I digress

shut up and stop with the fake concern

i think wendy should know better bcos she is american but i dont think giselle did anything wrong

as someone who loves Wendy, I agree

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All you have to do is say you have no reasonable argument.

We are here to discuss, not measure caring

actually, nvm

you can keep crying and pretending to be a justice warrior until you yourself believe you're being serious

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i think wendy should know better bcos she is american but i dont think giselle did anything wrong

She's Canadian but I do agree

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There's this little thing called fairness and justice. Oh yea, those existed BEFORE sjws were even conceived in the soviet union

there's also this little thing called "stop with the fake concern"

Care to give the gist of what she did? Sorry I wasn't a KPOP fan back then and yes I am lazy to search it.

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I'm trying to give you an analogy. Imagine a white artist making "jokes" on national TV about Asians eating bat soup and sneezing during this time where a lot of anti-Asian hate crimes due to corona. How would you feel about the artist? Knowing that peoples lives are literally in danger due to the spread of malicious stereotypes. It's the same for black people, many black men and women lost their lives, they lost opportunities, because of stereotypes about them being aggressive, which is what Wendy was doing

This is offtopic: I am not even Asian but why would they have to "imagine" anything? Both Black & White entertainers had said a lot of stereotypical and problematic shit about Asians without losing their careers - Snoop Dogg (racist joke in his Insta), YG ("Meet the Flockers"), Ice Cube ("Black Korea"), Donald Glover (history of fetishizing Asian women), Steve Harvey (https://www.hollywoodreporter.…s-asian-men-jokes-963735/), Jay Leno (funny how the person who reported his racist jokes got fired, not him, lmao), Stephen Colbert ("I am willing to show #Asian community I care by introducing the Ching-Chong Ding-Dong Foundation for Sensitivity to Orientals or Whatever."), Marky Mark (was a literal neonazi who attacked and brutally beat two Vietnamese men, permanently blinding one, with his gang in his youth), etc. And they live in a supposedly diverse & racially aware country.

In terms of Wendy & Giselle - as far as I know, the former never apologized and even continued doing that after getting called out?

I actually don’t agree. I think slurring the n word was worse, but it’s not my place to say anything about these incidents.

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Or maybe Wendy didn't even show the will to apologize? Every one acting shook Giselle delivered an apology when SM is supposedly forcing them not to but no one is considering the possibility that those before her simply didn't want to...

Giselle’s incident was way worse than wendy’s in the international scale and it was literally all over the internet. I think sm saw the shitstorm it caused and therefore acted on it.

She could literally cure cancer and stan twitter will still be "but u did a silly voice"

we comparing scandals now

Yes it’s worse but it’s not a competition.

Is this the new teshubs section?

It's not my place to say if Wendy deserves to be forgiven or not but others idols in SM or in general said ignorant and offensive things like Wendy did. They did not apologize too but their case is not always remembered like Wendy.

OP is weirdly obsessed with her anyways and is a Irene akgae.

what wendy did was worse yes i know but that doesn't mean giselle is excused

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BUT deliberately acting out two harmful stereotypes that caused violence to people of color on public broadcast

This is a dishonest and subjective observation. What are you even talking about? "Caused violence to people of color"? What?! People create their own stereotypes based on their own behavior and culture. Turn on the news. Even the heavily slanted MSM cannot hide the truth and fool people into thinking that "white supremacy is the existential threat facing America".

I wonder if this hyper victimizing of blacks or "people of color" and selective, overly judgemental condemnation has anything to do with the rise in Asian hate crimes all over the US. Most of these atrocities aren't being committed by Trump supporters, as much as the mainstream media wants you to think that they are, because our reality is curated by the media.

Wendy has a heart of gold and did nothing wrong so doesn't need to be forgiven. What Giselle did was completely innocent as well. I hate to get into the social justice and identity politics topics because I came to All Kpop for the exact opposi but the header of this thread made that impossible so...i had to add my thoughts this entire conversation is ridiculous.