How important REAL LIVE singing for you at a Kpop concert?

As a paying customer especially in this economy where ticket prices are so high, I think live singing is literally the BARE MINIMUM

Either sing live or fuck off

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I think it's obvious to everyone, especially for the older fans that new music lovers not just Kpop fans care less about live singing these days. If someone is popular enough, nothing else matters.

Hence why it will die

I would never go to a concert by an artist who I know doesn't sing live.

Live performances are important to me because they bring together the song and the artist in a unique and intimate atmosphere, creating a completely different experience. Without that feeling and experience, going to a concert wouldn’t mean anything to me.

It's important but my expectations are low depending on the company.

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It's important but my expectations are low depending on the company.

If it's SM I expect them to be 80% lipsync 20% live, and fans coming to tell me that SM artists don't need to prove themselves and sing live because they have already proven themselves to be good singers before

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If it's SM I expect them to be 80% lipsync 20% live, and fans coming to tell me that SM artists don't need to prove themselves and sing live because they have already proven themselves to be good singers before

Yup. With its SM, I can be sure that the artists are mostly lip-syncing as far as the song has a choreo, even when the choreo is just doing the most basic thing ever.

And despite SM having some of the industry's talented vocalists, JYP is more consistent with letting the artist actually showcase talent. That's why WE stan DAY6

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Yup. With its SM, I can be sure that the artists are mostly lip-syncing as far as the song has a choreo, even when the choreo is just doing the most basic thing ever.

And despite SM having some of the industry's talented vocalists, JYP is more consistent with letting the artist actually showcase talent. That's why WE stan DAY6

That's right

But for real groups like Day6, NMIXX, ITZY, Stray Kids have been widely praised for their live singing

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That's right

But for real groups like Day6, NMIXX, ITZY, Stray Kids have been widely praised for their live singing

Yeah, JYP groups never disappoint.

And in my opinion, SM is overhyped. JYP is where the REAL talent is at.

This is why I want to go to a stray kids concert. 😭 The live singing gives energy.

I don't understand how people can get hyped to 100% backtracks/lipsync. It's the fact we are seeing them live in the concerts that makes me hype. Backtracks and lipsync take out the LIVE Engagement part completely out of the equation. And even performers as great as BTS make me bored from a 100% lipsync.

I don't think kpop fans in general have seen enough live performances to truly understand what a joy it is to watch them

I want live singing. I don't care if there's a loud backtrack, but I want to at least hear some vocals. I feel that should be the bare minimum especially in this economy. I would honestly feel cheated if a group lipsyncs majority of the show.

the more kpop concerts I attend, the more I want and crave live vocals. I've been to concerts where 90% of the singing is lip synced and to others where there is a ton of live singing and I always enjoy a lot more the latter ones, by far. I feel much more connection with the artists when I can tell they're singing live, even if the singing isn't pitch perfect (which is often not when it involves dancing/walking around).

live band is also something I appreciate a lot in kpop concerts.

david u will probably like to know this, but mamamoo is far from being by fav kpop artists in terms of music but their music bank paris set is one of the most memorable kpop performances I've attended. it was fully live and f*cking amazing. and u could tell the audience, who was there mostly for other groups, were totally into the performance exactly because they were singing live and interacting with the crowd. it goes a long way.

Very, I wouldn't pay a lot of money to see someone not singing live.

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This is why I want to go to a stray kids concert. 😭 The live singing gives energy.

They're so worth the money! They were great in London. Seungmin and Changbin especially sounded amazing, their voices were very loud and clear.

I prefer it but I don't think it'd ruin the experience for me if it wasn't live, though I've only been to 2 kpop concerts so I can't say for sure. Also, in the moment, I'm just enjoying getting to see my faves live and hearing the music I love with other fans around having a great time. That is to say, I'm not really thinking too hard about the actual vocals and performance at the time, just having a good time.

For kpop concerts in specific it doesn’t matter at all. Especially for the more theatrical sections. If there are some acoustic/ballads/slower sections of the concert, yes live singing is required

But for those more choreo heavy section it’s not required at all. That’s all about how fun the stages can be. How the lighting special effects sets and choreo are used. If kpop doesn’t have such high energy section it wouldn’t be nearly as interesting.

Take for example twice concerts I would say like 70% of twice concerts are completely lip sync’d and even when it’s live it’s mostly like 2-3 people with mic on. But those stages are highly entertaining and the concert feels very high quality and worth watching.

Imo for kpop in specific, where vocals never mattered anyway, having an interesting stage is far more important than live singing. I also don’t believe vast majority of kpop concert goers are interested in the live singing and it’s the really the theatrics that make kpop cons special.

Btw you can interact with the crowd with a little bit of mic on and be engaging while the rest of the performance being completely lip sync’d with loud backtrack. A lot of the clips kpop fans have linked claiming live singing is almost always this type of a scene.

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No other concert either other than Kpop?

If you see Babymon, you don't have to be afraid of lip-syncing anyway, so...

Been to other concerts, not many but they were all for rock bands.

And yea Babymon was definitely LIVE when I saw them, and I think it definitely did enhance the experience but I probably would've had a good time seeing them regardless.

Like last week I saw BLACKPINK in NY and I don't think it was all live (though I could be wrong, I'm not an expert on what is and isn't live) but still had a very good time.

A concert should have majority live singing especially at paid concerts. There shouldn't even be a discussion.

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Let's not overexaggerate. Just because SME don't let their Idols sing live 80% of the time doesn't mean they're not talented. A lot of SME Idols can easily outsing anyone at JYP. The only difference is that JYP actually let them sing live most of the time.

I have often wondered if the quality of their voices would be the same if they were dancing. Like can they hit the same notes while they're out of breath. The NMixx girls definitely can but are the SM idols trained for the same situation?

Do you want dancing or singing, because kpop coreo's are hard.

I guess if they are going to sing a slow song, I would want them to sing live.

If their performance includes the dance, they can have playback other wise it would sound kind of bad.

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Let's not overexaggerate. Just because SME don't let their Idols sing live 80% of the time doesn't mean they're not talented. A lot of SME Idols can easily outsing anyone at JYP. The only difference is that JYP actually let them sing live most of the time.

Most SM idols can sing but can't dance for shit. The same thing is for rapping and I can't even bring up stage presence because its apparently a joke SM can never take seriously. A lot of them don't even play any role in production.

You'd be surprised how much "a lot" of SME vocalists are overrated, talent-wise.

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Nonsense! Want to see their faves up close? Are you for real? Unless they perform for 100 people, 99% of the crowd won't see them up close.😂

The whole point of a concert is to hear ANY artist perform live, not just Kpop Idols. Like, come on now, it's like saying you want to see your favorite food from up close, but you can't eat it. What's the point of paying for it, then?

They want to see their faves up close while being 100m away from the stage wow such up close

stanning Stray Kids makes it a decision I would've never needed to make.

People have been so completely fooled by autotune/pitch correction software that 99 percent of folks cant even distinguish true live raw singing from lipsync, backtrack, or autotune.

The covers of Golden are a perfect example. I've seen literally ONE and ONLY ONE example of a truly live raw cover, and that's Lily's version. Every other version has been autotuned 10000 percent to the point where you cant even distinguish one cover from the other.

Live vocals are absolutely wasted on Kpop. There is no need for it. Go to a Morissette concert if you want vocals.

Real human voice singing

Computer singing