K-pop needs another NewJeans or Blackpink

It definitely hurts that there's no monster group right now, but I think Kpop's popularity would have been declining regardless -- at least internationally.

Kpop need Lee Soo Man

Without NewJeans. It feels... flat. Hopefully, aespa will be able to inject some life back into it...

What doesn't help when it comes to having another Blackpink-like group is that you now have several GGs from the YG family, and extended family. Before, there'd only be a one. Now, all the efforts from Teddy and YHS are spread out to 1... 2... 3... 6 GROUPS (including that one funded by YG or smth)?! It doesn't help to have so many, when that time, effort, and attention, could've been paid to just creating on GG.

Kpop is in a dire state without them. They brought life into the industry and are the perfect starter group. Hopefully Aespa can fill the void but I have my doubts with how the teaser sounded. We don't really have many groups pushing music forward and NewJeans was the popular group doing that. It also hurts that NewJeans was the group that people included among pop acts and didn't separate them with the kpop label. Many music publications I read included NewJeans when talking about top songs of the year.

The industry will continue to crumble without NewJeans, and I will celebrate its demise until they return to full power.

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The industry will continue to crumble without NewJeans, and I will celebrate its demise until they return to full power.

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Kpop is in a dire state without them. They brought life into the industry and are the perfect starter group. Hopefully Aespa can fill the void but I have my doubts with how the teaser sounded. We don't really have many groups pushing music forward and NewJeans was the popular group doing that. It also hurts that NewJeans was the group that people included among pop acts and didn't separate them with the kpop label. Many music publications I read included NewJeans when talking about top songs of the year.

Tbh, I can't really process your points in the last 3 sentences. Yet, my insomnia's got my brain in airplane mode now, so maybe it's just me.

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HELL NO! Again, HELL NO! What Kpop needs is a normal group with great discography and small fandom without toxicity! Not overhyped groups with average or worse songs.

No, I'm not talking about NJ or BP, I'm saying this in general.

The MAIN REASON Kpop is BORING is because it's too Westernized. Only smaller groups doing actual Kpop music.

BTS, TWICE, BP and NJ maybe popularized Kpop in the West, but that's not really a good thing, and I wouldn't say they should represent Kpop even tho this might hurt the feeling of some fans. Especially, because pretty much all of them are basically a Western group not a real Kpop anymore. Except maybe NJ, because they didn't even have a real journey yet.

Kpop needs great groups music wise, concept wise and funny wise. Before BP we had fun in kpop regardless of their international position imo. The same with njz, but now we are stuck with groups that while have good music, lack passion and personality. Kpop as a whole isn't iconic anymore.

BP and njz sure helped kpop, but I count Twice, RV, MMM, Exo, AOA, SNSD, wonder girls, BB etc etc etc the vast kpop groups as important to bring happiness and fun again.

Kpop never counted just in one group, it was always the combination of so many different and iconic groups and idols. Nowadays we don't even have iconic soloists (from groups) from new gens like we had in the past gens.

Why do you think we are in the trench ?

Because BP and NJ have too many copycats and it doesn’t help that they’re inactive.

Companies are going for the easy path and don’t want to innovate anymore, just copypasta and expect results.

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Tbh, I can't really process your points in the last 3 sentences. Yet, my insomnia's got my brain in airplane mode now, so maybe it's just me.

It's all good. I was trying to state they're the kpop group western publications would include among western pop acts. It's rare for a kpop group to get that treatment and NewJeans were the group getting that treatment.

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Why do you think we are in the trench ?

Because BP and NJ have to many copycats and it doesn’t help that they’re inactive.

Companies are going for the easy path and don’t want to innovate anymore, just copypasta and expect results.

Now that you mention it, I just realized most girl groups these days are either BP- or NJ-inspired. That actually works in Aespa and Ive’s favor I guess. They definitely stand out more.

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Why do you think we are in the trench ?

Because BP and NJ have to many copycats and it doesn’t help that they’re inactive.

Companies are going for the easy path and don’t want to innovate anymore, just copypasta and expect results.

No offense, but both BP and NJ are copycats as well. They didn't invent anything. BP is basically the pretty version of 2NE1 or even Brown Eyed Girls.

And what NJ did concept wise is basically just a 2YK concept that many others did before them. The only difference is both BP and NJ was (and maybe still) more popular.

Kpop already has fifty thousand Blackpink and NewJeans clones. The LAST thing we need is another one. Maybe you should ruminate on the reasons why none of them are as popular instead of asking for even more.

It's better with a broad top than some few super groups. Have BTS been good for the boygroups?

We need some of the 2nd generation magic back.

Need another of them? Well... no. Teddy and YSH are busy flopping in trying to generate the next BP, and will fail again and again.

As for another NJ? Wait another ten years for that to happen again. I'd rather have another MHJ x LSM collab with something experimental, like how the production of f(x), who are superior to NJ.

NJ is nowhere near the same level as Blackpink.

Is there a Kpop fan that doesn't know all four members of Blackpink? Not many.

NJ on the other hand...

Almost everything Jennie did, wore or said is news since her debut.

The level of interest is far lower for NJ.

We now have Huntrix to fill the void

"another" NJs and BP will do nothing but plague kpop with an endless cycle of recycled formulas.

Kpop needs an Izone reunion tbh.

Ive ranted about this many times before, but i will reiterate it yet again.

We need a visionary like BangPD to sell his shares of Hybe and use the billions to buy out the contracts of all the members. Just reform the group already. Make Girl Groups Great Again.

As long as an SM group is on the top of kpop this will never happen. We need another HYBE or YG group to rise up to get international fame again.

Or we can start listening to nugus or any group we usually wouldn't give a chance. Fandoms can be great but oftentimes I find that kpop fans lock themselves into boxes too much... Kpop isn't boring, y'all are just looking in the wrong places!! And I think everyone doomposting about kpop being over or dead or failing only keeps y'all from enjoying what is being put out!!

Blackpink were the last group to capture the interest of both Asian and Western markets with the members and New Jeans were the last to capture these markets with music. I don't see any current groups capable of either. As we all know 4th gen music has been either too niche (i.e. "noise music") or too generic and everyone is bored to tears. And there are few groups like IVE and AESPA with 1 or 2 extremely popular members but none with the stacked line-up of a Blackpink or BTS where every member had significant fame and solo potential

I think ppl are over the all the drama. It’s becoming hard to deny kpop is a largely inauthentic product , exploitative of its artist and ran by old men. I expect to see more non kpop artist like qwer and day 6 become more popular in sk.

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I'm not even doomposting smh but please feel free to stream these nugus

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I meant other posts on this site, it feels like every other day there's a thread about how kpop is done for.

But I will happily stream, especially SMORZ!

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Blackpink were the last group to capture the interest of both Asian and Western markets with the members and New Jeans were the last to capture these markets with music.

This is a pretty interesting statement (I agree with it too).