What the fuck happening in this company

Isn't JYP bang PD's bff? They even kinda "promoted" together talking about leading kpop etc.... They know each other well...

I mean, we could say the same about almost or every other company.

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The trash brother ... we're going to learn soon that that shit bag JYP forced idols to do weird stuff for his cult

I remember Jay Park saying how jype staff used to beat PHYSICALLY trainees so I never understood how people think jype suddenly is an amazing place to work like all companies are bad, but jype is in a dark level with those past actions, being involved in a cult and their pressure on body's weight for the female idols.

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Indeed i'm not surprised, but the fact is this report was made by HYBE so what is really going on at JYP to even shock people who are used to it?

Just read the whole thing, this is disgusting, and even this is just an understatement.

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Fans should really throw stones when JYP brings his baboon face to JYPE concerts

Actually he should get black oceans everywhere he goes as a form of protest for better work environment, but you know how kpop fans are dumb and will pretend that everything is ok.

Wait a second. If Hybe is full of lies like everyone says, why is this being taken as gospel?

"It's clear they've been exposed to an environment that makes it hard to maintain their mental health, which especially shows in their looks and sexual appeal."

Now what is the correlation here?

I knew that company was shit when i saw Ryujin and Lia dramatic weight loss. Two members of the same group losing weight to the point their ribs were very visible? Nah, something was wrong with that company. Boy, is so difficult to stand a group when you know their company is fucking awful.

The fact that ALLKPOP KNEW BETTER THAN TO HAVE AN ANON SECTION QUICKER THAN HYBE IS CRAZY?! Like why is there a fucking company crafted, run and sponsored yikyak?!

I don't care about JYP and what happens there, but I have to give the company credit, JYP idols are the friendliest in the industry and always support each other.

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Wait a second. If Hybe is full of lies like everyone says, why is this being taken as gospel?

"It's clear they've been exposed to an environment that makes it hard to maintain their mental health, which especially shows in their looks and sexual appeal."

Now what is the correlation here?

Actually the article says it is a collection of online comments

Bro what is going on at JYP

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Actually the article says it is a collection of online comments

So were taking a random online comment by someone and treating it as the truth, basically. That makes even less sense.

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So were taking a random online comment by someone and treating it as the truth, basically. That makes even less sense.

I have no idea tbh

They seem so sure to know which two members who left same group and had plastic surgeries are but I'm here still trying to find out

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I never understood how people think jype suddenly is an amazing place to work

Makes me think of Byeongkwan and Chan from A.C.E

Byeongkwan said he joined JYP cause Jugyeom told him when he was a trainee and Byeongkwan asked how it was going, that JYP would be "oh so fun" and Byeongkwan belived it, enough to join JYP and as soon he met Chan they both realised that JYP was not as great as they thought and left together

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Makes me think of Byeongkwan and Chan from A.C.E

Byeongkwan said he joined JYP cause Jugyeom told him when he was a trainee and Byeongkwan asked how it was going, that JYP would be "oh so fun" and Byeongkwan belived it, enough to join JYP and as soon he met Chan they both realised that JYP was not as great as they thought and left together

The list goes on, but as I said kpop fans see idols taking break to take care about their mental health and act like their work environment isn't a big reason for the break.

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The list goes on, but as I said kpop fans see idols taking break to take care about their mental health and act like their work environment isn't a big reason for the break.

Funny enough, the company where these two ended up in makes sure that this will not happen, so when they arn't prepairing for a new album or tour and not planned to do stuff (like live streams) in the evening, they are free on the afternoons and evenings, even free on most weekends (unless if on tour) and sometimes even enough days off to go see their family etc. And this is what most KPop-companies would look at and be like: "Yeah no, they need to work!"

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Funny enough, the company where these two ended up in makes sure that this will not happen, so when they arn't prepairing for a new album or tour and not planned to do stuff (like live streams) in the evening, they are free on the afternoons and evenings, even free on most weekends (unless if on tour) and sometimes even enough days off to go see their family etc. And this is what most KPop-companies would look at and be like: "Yeah no, they need to work!"

To think this is how it should be!! If they don't have schedules then let them rest!!

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To think this is how it should be!! If they don't have schedules then let them rest!!

True. I was quit shook when TWICE said their first free time was when they were debuted for 5 years and not even got vacation time as trainees. Even with other companies like SM and the rest... Like in SM when WayV debuted, Yangyang revealed after 3 years that he also had no chance to take vacations and so he wasn't in Germany since almost forever, he even said a year after debut that he was normaly going back to Germany 4 times a year for 2 weeks each, but since he debuted SM won't let him even see his family once a year

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True. I was quit shook when TWICE said their first free time was when they were debuted for 5 years and not even got vacation time as trainees. Even with other companies like SM and the rest... Like in SM when WayV debuted, Yangyang revealed after 3 years that he also had no chance to take vacations and so he wasn't in Germany since almost forever, he even said a year after debut that he was normaly going back to Germany 4 times a year for 2 weeks each, but since he debuted SM won't let him even see his family once a year

Yep, I think YGE is the one that gives more breaks to their acts compared to Jype, Hybe and SM, but even then, it's too few.

It'll be difficult to see a real change where idols get the benefits unfortunately.

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Yep, I think YGE is the one that gives more breaks to their acts compared to Jype, Hybe and SM, but even then, it's too few.

It'll be difficult to see a real change where idols get the benefits unfortunately.

Well one leader and one label was doing this until HYBE decided not having a toxic work environment was too beneficial for the group.

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Well one leader and one label was doing this until HYBE decided not having a toxic work environment was too beneficial for the group.

Yep, I didn't say Ador bc they are under Hybe, but yeah, Ador was good at treating the girls as humans!

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I remember Jay Park saying how jype staff used to beat PHYSICALLY trainees so I never understood how people think jype suddenly is an amazing place to work like all companies are bad, but jype is in a dark level with those past actions, being involved in a cult and their pressure on body's weight for the female idols.

Still waiting for that press conference, it's been 6 years since it was announced

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Yep, I think YGE is the one that gives more breaks to their acts compared to Jype, Hybe and SM, but even then, it's too few.

It'll be difficult to see a real change where idols get the benefits unfortunately.

I kinda get it when foreign KPop-idols who have it harder to see their family often say that even if they might not like their home country too much, they consider going back once their groups disband. Yangyang for example said that there is nothing even holding him in Korea, so once WayV disbands he already made the plan to leave, not re-debut somewhere, just move back to Germany (unless his grandma will be still alive, cause he said her state is not too well, so he said he would spend the rest of her life with her in Taiwan and than go back to Germany, but if she dies before he leaves SM than he is straight going back to Germany)

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Still waiting for that press conference, it's been 6 years since it was announced

He moved on and so did everybody

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I kinda get it when foreign KPop-idols who have it harder to see their family often say that even if they might not like their home country too much, they consider going back once their groups disband. Yangyang for example said that there is nothing even holding him in Korea, so once WayV disbands he already made the plan to leave, not re-debut somewhere, just move back to Germany (unless his grandma will be still alive, cause he said her state is not too well, so he said he would spend the rest of her life with her in Taiwan and than go back to Germany, but if she dies before he leaves SM than he is straight going back to Germany)

Yeah, I remember Lisa also saying that bc of COVID it was impossible to see her family and like "ok, we get it", but even after COVID happened YGE didn't allow her to go back to Thailand for over a year and she was clearly upset with that situation...

As I said just if you have a solid fb in Korea, I don't see foreign idols living there. Being with their family is always the best option.

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Yeah, I remember Lisa also saying that bc of COVID it was impossible to see her family and like "ok, we get it", but even after COVID happened YGE didn't allow her to go back to Thailand for over a year and she was clearly upset with that situation...

As I said just if you have a solid fb in Korea, I don't see foreign idols living there. Being with their family is always the best option.

random but I had to think of foreign idols in Japan when reading your comment and 🙈 When INI debuted, their member Fengfan, who somehow became a China-anti, was asked if he would go back to China and he said no. Than the MC of a TV show said: "But what if your parents want to see you?" and he just straight up said: "If they realy love me, they need to come to Japan!"

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random but I had to think of foreign idols in Japan when reading your comment and 🙈 When INI debuted, their member Fengfan, who somehow became a China-anti, was asked if he would go back to China and he said no. Than the MC of a TV show said: "But what if your parents want to see you?" and he just straight up said: "If they realy love me, they need to come to Japan!"

I.. priorities I guess kkkkk

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I.. priorities I guess kkkkk

IDK but dude really said once he started to dislike China when he realised that Japan and China are extremly different an that Japan is more open. He originaly came to Japan as exchange student and was set to be there for 6 months, but when he figured he likes how Japan works, he extended to fully study in Japan, which actually almost Fd his debut, cause when he was on Produce 101 Japan season 2 and won, he needed to figure out how to change his visa from student to work and he was not too happy when he heared that in the worst case he had to go back to China to fix his visa over there, if it wouldn't work in Japan ooof

Another case I remember of someone who wasn't in their home country for a long time would be Yoondong of the boygroup Orbit, he last time had been in Korea in 2021, cause for some reason during lockdown Japan forced people who have a work visa and arn't a resident of the country to screw themself in 2020 and go back to their home country, so their debut was a bit messy aswell as their 2nd single. But since being back in Japan in the end of 2021 he didn't left in 3 years. (but dude needs to go to Korea if he likes it or not sometime soon, cause he is at the age where the army might be calling)

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"It's clear they've been exposed to an environment that makes it hard to maintain their mental health"

This report probably talk about ITZY or NMIXX since these groups had a member who left or was absent recently, but it doesn't really matter here. The fact is that a shitty company itself acknowledges the psychological abuse imposed at JYP and that is very worrying because we all know that a lot of things are wrong but for even assholes to acknowledge it, it must be even worse than anything we imagine ...

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Or Hybe is simply full of shit and should worry about themselves. Just look at their bizarre wording. They think an inability to maintain mental health "especially shows in their looks and sexual appeal." What the hell does that even mean?

The entire Kpop industry is fucked up in some fashion, starting with the inhumane training system, and every fan should know this already. We all share the guilt in giving these companies the time of day, even more so if you actively contribute to the system by purchasing their products. But unless we actually have evidence of a particular case of physical or mental abuse, there's no reason to believe Hybe over anyone else. They're just as likely to be guilty of such things, if not more so given some of the other things coming to light. The fact that "even they acknowledge it" means absolutely nothing. Hybe could be ten times worse than how they perceive their competitors for all we know.

There was really no reason to tag us for this thread.

interesting

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No the article tell this :

Yeah no shit they didn't collect the report on reddit

How convenient that it doesn't matter when the statement clearly says the two members left one group... it cannot be Itzy and Nmixx

Anyway, not like I want to defend big corporations. But I was summoned here through tag and I hate being shoved nonsense in the face then said "ah it doesn't matter, just agree with my point"

"Disappointment is the start of love"

-JYpapi

The fact that this guy yells at his artists is a sign of inferiority complex.

He blames others when his shitty music doesn't work.

TW was pretty lucky not to end up in the same division as this trash