stan twiter criticizing IVE for seeking “western validation” for their upcoming collab with Saweetie

Stan twitter and it’s only armys.

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Stan twitter and it’s only armys.

And antis of Ive lol

Literally no one said a thing about lsf or g idle releasing an english single but ofc they are barking when its ive, the price of being the it girls of kpop

but they don't say that about hybe groups

Tina, a JUNGKOOK fan (and yapping little dog), is talking about Western Validation?

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Literally no one said a thing about lsf or g idle releasing an english single

or when some popular groups have more and more english lyrics/songs and western producer involved.

Like you said it's really dumb, and IVE don't deserve hate for this at all.

If kpop fans want to complain about "western validation" they should complain at themself first cause it's these clown who made group/songs who use the most english lyrics and western producer the most popular

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This feels like the same mentality as the toxic people here that believe XYZ don't get enough criticism, so take it upon themselves to do the dragging.

Ehh, I think those people do it for attention and self-validation.

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This feels like the same mentality as the toxic people here that believe XYZ don't get enough criticism, so take it upon themselves to do the dragging.

A couple of 4th gen groups already released english singles/collab with other artists, so why in ive's turn they have to bring up something that stayed in 3rd gen? Literally even Bp etc already did the same. That's another double standard, so yeah, if Ive is getting criticism they should also criticize TXT, Le Sserafim, G idle and etc. But of course they won't, they have to target the gg everyone loves to hate

Btw when did dives had beef with armys lol? Ig theyre doing it for their protegées

Ironically reminds me of sm stans against army fanwar around 2016 lol

Lol, those twitter armys by like: How i make this about my faves?

I don't get this criticism at all. Clearly IVE is aiming for the Billboard Hot 100 chart and the American audience. So what? A bunch of Kpop groups have tried that like TXT, Ateez, Fifty Fifty, Gidle, Aespa, etc. and most recently Le Sserafim

I'd say let IVE have their moment, why so pressed? But then again this is Kpop stan twitter so not really surprised about the responses tbh

I am actually really excited for this. I feel like it will go very viral

Anytime someone promotes in the US Army get strange about it.

Like someone tell the little 7s on Twt that no one cares.

stans twitter =armys...twitter is just land without law, is not that important...the question is, is gonna give baddie vibes? Because if this is theirs idea of western music, this will be tragic

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stans twitter =armys...twitter is just land without law, is not that important...the question is, is gonna give baddie vibes? Because if this is theirs idea of western music, this will be tragic

Its a remake of this song

how is it western validation when the person that IVE is featuring not even that popular as she used to ?!?!.

nothing wrong with IVE going after that western validation

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Its a remake of this song

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Well, welcome 2010 pop, I guess

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BP did what?

Don't tell me you really believe IVE is the only other group besides BTS to get criticism (on Twitter no less) for "western validation".

Thats the point. We are talking about 4th gen. Name any other 4th gen group besides IVE that received hate for "western validation"? Armys are beefing with a gg that didnt even exist when this thing was a thing and after several other groups from the same gen already did it. Embarrassing fr it's only because it's Ive

Pretty much everybody's faves have collabed with a western artist, I don't know what all these twitter stans are angry about. All they do is complain. BTS, Blackpink, Stray Kids, NCT, etc etc have all collabed with a western artist. Like everybody at some point wanted "western validation".

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Pretty much everybody's faves have collabed with a western artist, I don't know what all these twitter stans are angry about. All they do is complain. BTS, Blackpink, Stray Kids, NCT, etc etc have all collabed with a western artist. Like everybody at some point wanted "western validation".

Again, it's only because it's IVE

Very rich coming from armys like i had no idea there was any interaction between these fandoms at all until this

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i feel like they’re just pointing out the hypocrisy of kpop stans idk🤷🏽‍♀️

And decide to do that with a gg that didnt even exist when western validation drag was a thing? That doesnt make sense Lmao there is no intention of pointing out hipocrisy, if it was they would have done it to txt, le sserafim, aespa, g idle etc first

I cant see any proper reason to only decide to do this with ive besides a very obvious reason

BTS in the army, what else they have to do but be annoying (they always were btw)

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I don't even need twitter to counter this. When Aespa performed at the Macy's Day Parade and went to Coachella, what do you think twitter (and AKP for that matter) were screaming? And other groups have faced it too.

Hate to be the one to tell you, but IVE is not all alone in the 4th gen in getting dragged for almost everything - including western validation.

If that was the only example you have then you just proved my point, because even mys hated all the forced promotion sm made them do in us, this isnt a good example at all lol

If you can only think of aespa, then where was the hate for their english single hold on tight?

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Anytime someone promotes in the US Army get strange about it.

Like someone tell the little 7s on Twt that no one cares.

because for the ⁷s on twitter, no one can go for the US market after BTS. They claim BTS paved the way but go batshit crazy when another kpop group does take the "paved way".

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armys on twt do this with every group. ive is not special

Then show me the hate tweets for lsf, txt and g idle or other 4th gen group, otherwise it didnt happen (accept receipts from anyone reading this btw!)

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Is this the victim olympics to you or something? IVE is not alone in getting dragged for western validation.

All talk and no receipts

There is a big ass receipt in op so I expect the defenses to be in receipts as well!

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BTS in the army, what else they have to due but be annoying (they always were btw)

Well they are taking their revenge in the name of their 7 hokages in the leaf village, born in poverty, they invented civilization in their ascension to the throne, they defend the legend of the kpop benders in twitter

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i’m not taking time out of my day to go on twt and search for hate tweets for groups.🥴

Exactly, if its that hard to find then that doesnt happen that often like yall claim

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Thats the point. We are talking about 4th gen. Name any other 4th gen group besides IVE that received hate for "western validation"?

Stray Kids and several times lol

There was one viral tweet rationing their VMA performance hating on it and accusing of western validation here, but the account got suspended

And It's on top of my head now

Western validation accusation is just a regular tuesday on stayville