Somi's 1st day sales dropped from 30,798 to 9411 after 2-year hiatus (28,935 1-week, 52,612 2-week, 61,881 1-month)

were they monday/friday releases?

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If Somi doesn't dig herself out of this ditch TBL will probably push her even more into being an influencer, or into a group. Somi stated that she is still hungry for making music, so she has some work to do.

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Korea is too small of an Area for BlackPink; They should go all in for the Global Girl Group title.

ok; Hear me out, do not start hating until you read the whole plan.




South Korean is a small country, it will just hold BlackPink back in the future. Black Pink is bigger than South Korea, they are a global Group only smaller than BTS.


But Boy groups are on the way out and girl groups are on the way up.

For their next comeback in 2025, Black Pink should just go all in with English songs, English is the universal language on earth, so they should fully embrace it.



A problem with that. They have 3…

BEG4DAWIN

Aug 30th 2022

teddy is a sad excuse for a producer. it doesn't surprise me at all. whatever he's starting with new ggs and everything else is bound to fail as well because no fan in their right mind would enjoy supporting artists like that. kpop has changed and teddy sadly hasn't.

I'm halfway to calling the peak of Kpop album sales.

Oh My Girl, The Boyz, Yuri, and Eunbi have also seen moderate to huge drops in sales. Somi and The Boys have extenuating circumstances that could explain their downfall (Boyz getting into scandal after scandal and Somi disappearing for years at a time). But the drops for Yuri and Eunbi are very concerning. Not for those two specifically, they are skyrocketing in Korea popularity wise, but in terms of overall Kpop album sales.

Will be curious to see Stayc's sales soon.

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I'm halfway to calling the peak of Kpop album sales.

Oh My Girl, The Boyz, Yuri, and Eunbi have also seen moderate to huge drops in sales. Somi and The Boys have extenuating circumstances that could explain their downfall (Boyz getting into scandal after scandal and Somi disappearing for years at a time). But the drops for Yuri and Eunbi are very concerning. Not for those two specifically, they are skyrocketing in Korea popularity wise, but in terms of overall Kpop album sales.

Will be curious to see Stayc's sales soon.

Ain’t no way Stayc will decline teddy better is a hit and poppy kr version did well too. They’re pulling 500k sales this cb.

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I'm halfway to calling the peak of Kpop album sales.

Oh My Girl, The Boyz, Yuri, and Eunbi have also seen moderate to huge drops in sales. Somi and The Boys have extenuating circumstances that could explain their downfall (Boyz getting into scandal after scandal and Somi disappearing for years at a time). But the drops for Yuri and Eunbi are very concerning. Not for those two specifically, they are skyrocketing in Korea popularity wise, but in terms of overall Kpop album sales.

Will be curious to see Stayc's sales soon.

The bubble had to burst eventually.

I think the fact Yuri and Eunbi haven't had a decent hit in Korea yet is also playing a part. They are being carried by fandom power alone. I thought Eunbi would see more attention for her recent comeback after her making such a big splash at Waterbomb, but...I guess she got the wrong kind of attention. Or maybe her comeback should have been a bit sexier. Something Sistar/AOA inspired.

Not sure what happened with OMG though. Their songs have yet to truly flop, and yet...

I guess it's due to lack of any true international fanbase. Without international fanbases, I'm sure GGs would still be at the level of having hits in Korea, but lacking in album sales.

That's an interesting dip for Somi.

I guess the long hiatuses only work for some acts (in terms of physical sales).

this shows long hiatus don't always work in more case it's the opposite but hopefully it will get better with more promotions

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I think the fact Yuri and Eunbi haven't had a decent hit in Korea yet is also playing a part. They are being carried by fandom power alone. I thought Eunbi would see more attention for her recent comeback after her making such a big splash at Waterbomb, but...I guess she got the wrong kind of attention. Or maybe her comeback should have been a bit sexier. Something Sistar/AOA inspired.

I mean, Eunbi's newfound attention was always unlikely to translate to a mass uptick in sales. I don't think the bubble has burst at all, every other major group is having massive upswings (incl. NMIXX). I think some people just back the wrong horses and use that to call trends

Digital is on the rise and people seem to be hyping/talking about her so that's all good...but yeah sales are a disaster. Can only hope it's distribution issues right now and they ll pick up in the week.

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I mean, Eunbi's newfound attention was always unlikely to translate to a mass uptick in sales. I don't think the bubble has burst at all, every other major group is having massive upswings (incl. NMIXX). I think some people just back the wrong horses and use that to call trends

I didn't think it would necessarily translate in sales directly but streams.

If the song is good, a viral moment can get you a hit, which then may or may not lead to an increase in sales. Unfortunately, I don't think her new song was catchy enough to have her benefit from the attention she got. Just my own take.

The bubble has yet to burst for groups coming from the Big 3 and those big groups like G-IDLE, IVE, and even STAYC, but I think we can see signs of KPOP fatigue catching up to midtier groups. We see it from album sales and touring numbers too. I wouldn't be surprised if NMIXX's numbers lag on the next comeback. Especially if they comeback a 3rd time this year, but it's hard to have a conversation about that anyway given most people will just say the lag is due to sajaegi rather than anything else.

Oh that’s sad. But I feel like she’ll go more viral get a fandom again only to drop off the planet for another two years RIPPPPP

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Teddy is intentionally sabotaging Somi's solo career to give her no choice but to join his next group.

His next group? hum.

HardcoreBLINK what label do you say is going to sign BlackPink?

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I didn't think it would necessarily translate in sales directly but streams.

If the song is good, a viral moment can get you a hit, which then may or may not lead to an increase in sales. Unfortunately, I don't think her new song was catchy enough to have her benefit from the attention she got. Just my own take.

The bubble has yet to burst for groups coming from the Big 3 and those big groups like G-IDLE, IVE, and even STAYC, but I think we can see signs of KPOP fatigue catching up to midtier groups. We see it from album sales and touring numbers too. I wouldn't be surprised if NMIXX's numbers lag on the next comeback. Especially if they comeback a 3rd time this year, but it's hard to have a conversation about that anyway given most people will just say the lag is due to sajaegi rather than anything else.

actually i saw that IVE's sales also slowed down this year as well, maybe you're right, and it'll hit less privileged groups first

As someone who stan Somi since Sixteen, I just accepted she's more an influencer now than a singer. Her brand is too strong even before she had a solo hit, and I'm sure her income is more from cfs and things like this. I do miss idol Somi and I would prefer her in a group, but she's happy in tbl and has more freedom than the average idol.

K-pop feels like nothing more than a side gig for Somi. Kind of like in college when I’d go sing karaoke on a Thursday night at a local pub.

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Somi will lose a lot of her fame that supports her influencer activities if she flops a few times as an idol, unless she pivots to something else, like acting. Somi has shown no interest in acting so far and says she's still focused on music.

I think her influence is more impacted by digital results than album sales results. At least the song is rising on the charts (but this release is too weak after a long hiatus).

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I'm halfway to calling the peak of Kpop album sales.

Oh My Girl, The Boyz, Yuri, and Eunbi have also seen moderate to huge drops in sales. Somi and The Boys have extenuating circumstances that could explain their downfall (Boyz getting into scandal after scandal and Somi disappearing for years at a time). But the drops for Yuri and Eunbi are very concerning. Not for those two specifically, they are skyrocketing in Korea popularity wise, but in terms of overall Kpop album sales.

Will be curious to see Stayc's sales soon.

K-pop album sales were up 30% in 2022 compared to 2021 with $80m in revenue. I don’t know what the forecast is for 2023, but if it’s below expectations it will be easy to argue that inflation and a slowing economy was the culprit.

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I agree. Staying in the headlines and climbing the charts is far more important for Somi (she didn't even release an album until 2 years into her solo career), but this extremely long hiatus also hurt her digital numbers to some extent. For example, Somi's still getting the most views for her music show performances, but the difference used to be larger. Somi is also getting less comments on her MV (can't see the likes), although that would be partially caused by the BP girls not promoting the MV on their IG stories this comeback (which concerns me, as stated earlier).

The thing about hiatus is that the cb has to be explosive. Dumb Dumb was catchy, the visual of the mv was very trendy and Somi as a blonde was a new thing and trended a lot. This cb is cute, but doesn't look like a cb after a long hiatus. I hope she releases something else soon.

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The long delay seems to be partially Somi's wish,

"By the time I was composing the album, my head was hurting so much. There are a lot of strong songs, so I had a lot of concerns about how to compose them on the album, so I originally planned to do two comebacks. After thinking about it for a few days and days, I thought that an album full of songs worthy of the title would be a good album, so I persuaded the company to make it a one-time album instead of two comebacks. The process itself was challenging, but it was also a fun moment."

TBL would have divided to album into two minis/singles. I would assume the first would have released earlier, but I don't know how much earlier. Probably wouldn't have made much of a difference unless it released shortly after she hosted MAMA or earlier, and I suspect it wasn't ready at that point (or they would have released it).

smh. it's obviously not somi's wish. since structural changes were planned in 2022.

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Not at all surprised, could have been as low as 5000. What does surprise me is that they would release an album right away, instead of starting off with a digital single to build back up a fandom (like they did with pre-releasing Dumb Dumb a couple months before the XOXO album).

On the positive side, the difference seems to be largely the result of having no China Bar sales and the GP is still interested in Somi (Fast Forward climbed up from about #95 to #50 in a week), so the sales will probably have a longer tail as Somi continues promoting.

If Somi doesn't dig herself out of this ditch TBL will probably push her even more into being an influencer, or into a group. Somi stated that she is still hungry for making music, so she has some work to do.

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Teddy scratching his head at this result as if it didn't happen with 2ne1 too lol

BP is really an anomaly

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The long delay seems to be partially Somi's wish,

"By the time I was composing the album, my head was hurting so much. There are a lot of strong songs, so I had a lot of concerns about how to compose them on the album, so I originally planned to do two comebacks. After thinking about it for a few days and days, I thought that an album full of songs worthy of the title would be a good album, so I persuaded the company to make it a one-time album instead of two comebacks. The process itself was challenging, but it was also a fun moment."

TBL would have divided to album into two minis/singles. I would assume the first would have released earlier, but I don't know how much earlier. Probably wouldn't have made much of a difference unless it released shortly after she hosted MAMA or earlier, and I suspect it wasn't ready at that point (or they would have released it).

She kinda killed some of her potential with that move

Releasing a pre-release & then the EP would have atleast generated more $$$ through streams if not more sales

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That again...

Based on what I've seen, Somi has zero interest in joining a group.

Also, as far as I'm aware, "Fast Forward" is the first comeback that Blackpink girls didn't post anything to support. They usually post at least one IG story at MV release. So, either the BP girls are on bad terms with Teddy (suggesting that they are not renewing, or at least dropping Teddy as their executive producer), or Teddy is intentionally sabotaging Somi's solo career to give her no choice but to join his next group.

U do know it's the opposite right 😂

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His next group? hum.

HardcoreBLINK what label do you say is going to sign BlackPink?

U do know TBL is making a GG right??

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? What's the opposite?

Teddy & YG are not on best of terms hence BP being in the middle of a divorce lol

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So your saying that YGE prevented the pinks from posting support for Somi's comback out of spite? Isn't Teddy still their executive producer? Couldn't he just ask the girls or instruct their managers to post something for Somi?

It's just respecting the status quo till the tour ends

YG is totally spiteful,let's not act like this ain't the same man that prevented the pinks from attending award shows out of spite for how the media rightfully treated him during burning sun