Yes Crayon Pop is here because they were that damn good.
NewJeans doesn't belong in the conversation yet since they just debuted but I included them just so I wouldn't have to hear WHERES NEWJEANS?????
I knew I was forgetting someone. Added 4Minute.
rv 
Did Spica reach the success like their peers?
(g)i-dle
and they're the best 6-member gg too
F(x) of course.
Where’s Le sserafim and G-idle?
Spice girls
(g)i-dle
and they're the best 6-member gg too
They are in a Schrodinger's state 
The cake girls
F(x) and
Each of these groups released songs that defied the trends of their generation with timeless songs
The criteria for inclusion in this poll seem a bit arbitrary.
If a group had to *debut* with five members, then Kara and Red Velvet shouldn't be included.
If a group just had to have five members at some point, then (G)I-dle and Le Sserafim should be included.
The criteria for inclusion in this poll seem a bit arbitrary.
If a group had to *debut* with five members, then Kara and Red Velvet shouldn't be included.
If a group just had to have five members at some point, then (G)I-dle and Le Sserafim should be included.
Adding a member =/= losing a member
Don't sleep on Baby VOX but for my money it's Red Velvet thus far.
Adding a member =/= losing a member
that's arbitrary as shit. Especially when Kara so consistently lost and gained members.
that's arbitrary as shit. Especially when Kara so consistently lost and gained members.
Nothing arbitrary about it. Losing a member is always a black mark on a group. A clear negative, both literally & figuratively. Gaining a member, especially only a year into your career, is not (unless you're T-ara.) Kara is best known for their previous 5-member lineup, but they didn't even become a 5-member group until after losing a member, then they eventually lost two more, necessitating bringing in another new member on the tail end of their original run just to make it four. And that's not even considering what happened after that. Simply too inconsistent to compare with the longevity & stability of a group like RV.
And I'm certainly not going to praise you as a great 5-member group when you spent most of your career as six members but then lost one due to a bullying scandal. It just ain't happening.
Nothing arbitrary about it. Losing a member is always a black mark on a group. A clear negative, both literally & figuratively. Gaining a member, especially only a year into your career, is not (unless you're T-ara.) Kara is best known for their previous 5-member lineup, but they didn't even become a 5-member group until after losing a member, then they eventually lost two more, necessitating bringing in another new member on the tail end of their original run just to make it four. And that's not even considering what happened after that. Simply too inconsistent to compare with the longevity & stability of a group like RV.
And I'm certainly not going to praise you as a great 5-member group when you spent most of your career as six members but then lost one due to a bullying scandal. It just ain't happening.
You say that losing a member is consistently considered a black mark... yet both groups that person listed, LSF and GIDLE... had substantially greater success following the member leave.
And Kara lost a member before they gained the two that led to their iconic run. So did that lost member cause a black mark too?
You can spin it all you want, shit's arbitrary as hell.
Display MoreYou say that losing a member is consistently considered a black mark... yet both groups that person listed, LSF and GIDLE... had substantially greater success following the member leave.
And Kara lost a member before they gained the two that led to their iconic run. So did that lost member cause a black mark too?
You can spin it all you want, shit's arbitrary as hell.
You make it sound like those groups had greater success BECAUSE they lost a member, which is ridiculous. LSF released one friggin' song with their full lineup!
There's something to be said for a group's stability, whether you realize it or not.
Red Velvet just has too many songs I like
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Even if Crayon Pop is my favorite group in list, it's a bit hard to vote for them, so I must say Wonder girls. But for me personally Crayon Pop gave me more fun and good music, but it's hard to call them "the best" when going up agains groups like Wonder Girls and KARA.
Both Red Velvet and Itzy. But I voted Red Velvet 
Black Pink dude
everyone knows Teddy is the fifth member.
DAHHHHH 
The criteria for inclusion in this poll seem a bit arbitrary.
If a group had to *debut* with five members, then Kara and Red Velvet shouldn't be included.
If a group just had to have five members at some point, then (G)I-dle and Le Sserafim should be included.
OP was probably going with what their most famous or popular line up was, like the line up everyone thinks of when they think of that group
Sulli wasn’t there for the end but when you think of f(x) it’s hard not to think of her. Same with Soojin and (G) IDLE, who have fallen off massively since she left tbh
OP was probably going with what their most famous or popular line up was, like the line up everyone thinks of when they think of that group
Sulli wasn’t there for the end but when you think of f(x) it’s hard not to think of her. Same with Soojin and (G) IDLE, who have fallen off massively since she left tbh
????
(G) IDLE's best performing years in literally every metric are after soojin
Yeah ok lol
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