Yeah I personally don't wanna have to do anything with stays as a fandom ever again... nasty mfers
Agree. Some stays here in akp alone terrified me a lot as they didn't show any remorse or trying to apologize at all for the drama they put me into and told me to 'grow up' instead. From that alone, I know a lot of them share the same traits and I was right. The ego lol, kpop over morals...
FACTS !! This is the same bullshit they use to justify hate on idols especially when they are not responsible for how you act 🤡 now when they are the subject they want to play victim. Is what certain fans of an idol doing justified? Hell no BUT that doesn't absolve the other group of fans from the same thing. If Chan apparently owes you a apology due to no fault of his own then yes you too should apologize for trashing him too Both fans are responsible for hate if the Idol is somehow responsible for you then it would only be fair for ive members to apologize on your behalf. Right? If no then you are hypocrites and selective.
FACTS !! This is the same bullshit they use to justify hate on idols especially when they are not responsible for how you act 🤡 now when they are the subject they want to play victim. Is what certain fans of an idol doing justified? Hell no BUT that doesn't absolve the other group of fans from the same thing. If Chan apparently owes you a apology due to no fault of his own then yes you too should apologize for trashing him too Both fans are responsible for hate if the Idol is somehow responsible for you then it would only be fair for ive members to apologize on your behalf. Right? If no then you are hypocrites and selective.
Lmao can't believe you stays are really asking ive for apology 🤡
yeah victim blaming
I apologize to the dude whom his fans made a deep fake video of me
nah fuck that
Sue them
Scary...
FACTS !! This is the same bullshit they use to justify hate on idols especially when they are not responsible for how you act 🤡 now when they are the subject they want to play victim. Is what certain fans of an idol doing justified? Hell no BUT that doesn't absolve the other group of fans from the same thing. If Chan apparently owes you a apology due to no fault of his own then yes you too should apologize for trashing him too Both fans are responsible for hate if the Idol is somehow responsible for you then it would only be fair for ive members to apologize on your behalf. Right? If no then you are hypocrites and selective.
He apologized for HIS MISTAKE. He is not obligated to apologize on behalf of his fans, and vice versa for IVE and their fans. There's absolutely no reason for IVE to make an apology. This is male group fans once again trying to deflect the blame.
I never thought I gonna say this but they make even fandom like Armys and Blinks look like a 'normal' kpop fandom next to this one 🙃
The logic lol, help...
I never thought I gonna say this but they make even fandom like Armys and Blinks look like a 'normal' kpop fandom next to this one 🙃
The logic lol, help...
Lol. I remember an amount the blinks start thi apologizetoLisa for the incident with Dahyun. Every fandom have nasty people. You cant blame all for this ones.
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Lol. I remember an amount the blinks start thi apologizetoLisa for the incident with Dahyun. Every fandom have nasty people. You cant blame all for this ones.
'Normal' kpop stan... Which of that word you don't understand? It's crazy but it's what 'normal' in kpop fandom world.
But what is really crazy even for kpop stans level are when a fandom ask a group of a teenager to apologize bc their oppa apologize to them for his mistake that make his fandom attacking them.
FACTS !! This is the same bullshit they use to justify hate on idols especially when they are not responsible for how you act 🤡 now when they are the subject they want to play victim. Is what certain fans of an idol doing justified? Hell no BUT that doesn't absolve the other group of fans from the same thing. If Chan apparently owes you a apology due to no fault of his own then yes you too should apologize for trashing him too Both fans are responsible for hate if the Idol is somehow responsible for you then it would only be fair for ive members to apologize on your behalf. Right? If no then you are hypocrites and selective.
You are stupid. IVE and dives didn't start anything. The ones who did were stays based on something Bangchan said. Asking IVE to apologize for anything is blaming the victim. It's not the same as Bangchan apologizing since he's the one who started the mess, regardless of intention.
And I thought bringing up suicide was stupid. Now we got fascism thrown around
A battered gymnast couldn't do the mental gymnastics that kpoppies perform on the reg
Is the same principle use for racists, fascists, xenophobics, supremacists etc, etc. They see something bad made for some individuals and they blame the entire group. Is not the same that is happening here with stays? You must be very dishonest or stupid to not see this. Anyway. To the people trying to portray the entire fandom as bad. Congratulations, now you have something in common with every group of hate.
Is the same principle use for racists, fascists, xenophobics, supremacists etc, etc. They see something bad made for some individuals and they blame the entire group. Is not the same that is happening here with stays? You must be very dishonest or stupid to not see this. Anyway. To the people trying to portray the entire fandom as bad. Congratulations, now you have something in common with every group of hate.
I'm not even gonna spend time arguing over why this is stupid. Argue with yourself
BLINKS who are success stans (wich is like 99% of the fandom XD):
'Normal' kpop stan... Which of that word you don't understand? It's crazy but it's what 'normal' in kpop fandom world.
But what is really crazy even for kpop stans level are when a fandom ask a group of a teenager to apologize bc their oppa apologize to them for his mistake that make his fandom attacking them.
I dont care for that 12000 or more dumbass weirdos, fuck them. But im NOT going to stay quiet if some shitty people try to use this to categorize an entire fandom as evil while they use the victim card. Thats fucked up, just like those stays are doing. Both are shit.
I crafted an amazing apology for IVE let me show you
"Hi, this is IVE. We are sorry for existing, which caused fans from another group to hate on us which causes our fans to retaliate, simply for existing.
We promise to rectify our existence so that our existence will not cause such tension in future
Sincerely, IVE's existence"
I'm not even gonna spend time arguing over why this is stupid. Argue with yourself
Hahaha, girl, just say your brain is tOo stupid to make a contrapoint. BTw, what i say about blinks was a joke, a use to exaggerate to makes jokes, i do this very often.
Now, im going to sit and wait for you to tell me why demonize an entire group is different when kpoppies does this that when groups of hate does.
y'all got to leave stay alone, you gots to, cause they be defending who they stan, and you would do the same for your fave. people out here dragging stays, but they real people, they real, and we all gots problems in our heads, just look at army, they crazy, we all crazy. got to support crazy people, gots to. just not okay, leave stay alone, they dealing with a lot, they is, just got to pray for them. #stopspreadinghate #loveall
I dont care for that 12000 or more dumbass weirdos, fuck them. But im going to stay quiet if some shit people try to use this to categorize an entire fandom as evil while they use the victim card. Thats fucked up, just like those stays are doing. Both are shit.
Pffttt... yeah... yeah... When you're here acting exactly like this... What a nice joke, tho. Do you guys at least have a 'normal' stays in here so you can prove yourself? I keep meeting the 'generalized' one then since yesterday...
People fighting the not-a-stay in this thread 
Then you are the problem if you cant find a nice stay. Lol, the audacity you must have to imply there is not normal stays. Look, im going to think you are making a joke, im fine with that. 
Why would Ive apologize? Whichever group actually did the thing should apologize for not owning up to their shit and letting Ive take the fall.
Is the same principle use for racists, fascists, xenophobics, supremacists etc, etc. They see something bad made for some individuals and they blame the entire group. Is not the same that is happening here with stays? You must be very dishonest or stupid to not see this. Anyway. To the people trying to portray the entire fandom as bad. Congratulations, now you have something in common with every group of hate.
I love how you're comparing a fan war to severe societal problems. You must be sheltered as hell to allow yourself to say some dumb shit like this.
People fighting the not-a-stay in this thread
Are you calling NmiXXSupremacist not-a-stay????
don`t be so dramatic gurl
i see my faves and my bias being bombarded by the most powerfull fandom. Calling her a monkey on her instagram account, nasty fans exist. But they are like a 3% of the fandom.
We tend to think they are all like that. The bad ones tend to be the most visible.
and my faves are thriving.
Put your big girls pants on and party. Your faves are such Queens they will pass this storm well
Hahaha, now you avoid completely my question. Lol, is so funny to see how you cant make a contraargument.
Im comparing intentions. Btw, you think the people involve in this fanwars, with all the nasty they can be, are not affected by this "severe societal problems"? Lol, i saw fans being racist, xenophobic, etc, etc. Dont portray fanwars like something benevolent. Sometimes there is true malice there. Dumbass
Hahaha, now you avoid completely my question. Lol, is so funny to see how you cant make an contraargument.
Okay eugenicist
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