this channel is one of the worst and most hypocrite channel
and their bias is so obvious
they literally took chaehyun first performance on GP999 with her voice crack and put her in the category of Idols who can't sing live but are push by companies to be presented as good singer, but then completely erase the vocals that Chaehyun show during the training for My sea performance or Utopia or even Yes or yes
and then put shana after to make it sound that chaehyun an untalented vocalist debuted because she was push
but shana a talented vocalist didn't debut because she wasn't push
and it's obviously fake because any one who watched GP999 know how great chaehyun have been in dancing, and vocals and deserve to debut '-'
Display More"Idols don't sing live in encore" isn't even true though. It isn't an "SM standard" that Music Core used a back track for aespa's win. They do it every time with every group.
NCT 127 - Music Core vs. M Countdown
Astro - Music Core vs. Show Chamption
IVE - Music Core vs. Show Champion
They said Aespa is "GOING" to set that standard. It's just starting right now, but in a couple years many groups will be singing with a backtrack during the encore stage, which I think is probably going to happen.
Same for the Aespa encore performance, she made it sound like every Aespa encore stage had loud backtrack
and then completely ignore this encore stage of aespa singing live
Lol. Loquendo? In what year we are?
They've made it legit...they have. That was unheard of prior to Aespa last year. Making it "legit now" is another way of saying "they're starting it, and more people are going to."
"The most popular soloists are also not known for being great singers. Hwasa is more known for her visuals."
If MMM are known for their visual i'm Michael Jordan. 
Like i said this channel is very hypocrite because Aespa only had 1 encore stage with loud backtrack and it was at Music core
Meanwhile there was member of Ive for example who were lipsyncing at their encore at music core too
( and if you don't trust me watch the moment they start to sing the first part of Leeseo, she's singing when the micro isn't even near her mouth, and even when she put the micro in front of her mouth her voice is still the same )
so yes this channel is very hypocrite targetting Aespa for a thing that a lot of group are doing right now
well the people using backtrack for encores don't get dragged but the ones making one mistake in their singing do get dragged.. so yes I see it becoming normal sadly. People these days expect perfection so much that lately so many groups are just lipsyncing, cause even that is not gonna get you dragged as much. I wish it was like how it was in 2nd gen, when idols weren't constantly worried about haters using one clip to prove that the idol can't sing and ignore all the other times it sounded fine.
100% agree with twice for some reasons they always get shitted by kpop stans because apparently they can’t sing while Jihyo and Nayeon proved that they are good singers.
momo she is the pushing bag of kpop stans like!/!€: she sings like 3 seconds in a 3 minutes songs and she gets dragged she isn’t that good okay I get it but but she got casted because she is a dancer not because of Her singing ability so why people don’t have the same energy for the others dancers too who can barely hold a note
Same for the Aespa encore performance, she made it sound like every Aespa encore stage had loud backtrack
and then completely ignore this encore stage of aespa singing live
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Was about to post this. Lol, someone think this is a good channel. Obviously it pick and choose.
If MMM are known for their visual i'm Michael Jordan.
Hello Michael. Did you check Hwasa the visual last solo stage ? I heard clearly her good live vocals but it's maybe an illusion.
Was about to post this. Lol, someone think this is a good channel. Obviously it pick and choose.
especially considering that Aespa only have 2 encore stage since their debut
and one live
and this channel make it sound like they have 10 different encore stage that they watch and where half of them had loud backtrack
so i find this funny that other group are doing it too, and aespa did it once, but this channel is targetting Aespa for starting this trend, like bitch a trend doesn't start because you did smt once '-'
Display MoreLike i said this channel is very hypocrite because Aespa only had 1 encore stage with loud backtrack and it was at Music core
Meanwhile there was member of Ive for example who were lipsyncing at their encore at music core too
( and if you don't trust me watch the moment they start to sing the first part of Leeseo, she's singing when the micro isn't even near her mouth, and even when she put the micro in front of her mouth her voice is still the same )
so yes this channel is very hypocrite targetting Aespa for a thing that a lot of group are doing right now
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I think music core have loud backtrack for their show in encore. This is why both ive and aespa have similar loud back track.
"The most popular soloists are also not known for being great singers. Hwasa is more known for her visuals."
oh lord I missed that
They've made it legit...they have. That was unheard of prior to Aespa last year. Making it "legit now" is another way of saying "they're starting it, and more people are going to."
The After Midnight clip happened two months before aespa won. So I guess it wasn't that unheard of.
Display Moreespecially considering that Aespa only have 2 encore stage since their debut
and one live
and this channel make it sound like they have 10 different encore stage that they watch and where half of them had loud backtrack
so i find this funny that other group are doing it too, and aespa did it once, but this channel is targetting Aespa for starting this trend, like bitch a trend doesn't start because you did smt once '-'
Lip sync are dominate most music shows these days. Hell even year end music shows, there were barely groups sing live. Even some groups concerts have loud back track. Like kpop as whole is heading into this direction.
yeah just dropping few encore who happened before even Aespa do their encore stage, but the person in the video prefered to target Aespa
Astro, obvious back track, they aren't even trying to hide it
well the people using backtrack for encores don't get dragged but the ones making one mistake in their singing do get dragged.. so yes I see it becoming normal sadly. People these days expect perfection so much that lately so many groups are just lipsyncing, cause even that is not gonna get you dragged as much. I wish it was like how it was in 2nd gen, when idols weren't constantly worried about haters using one clip to prove that the idol can't sing and ignore all the other times it sounded fine.
lip syncing, prererded tracks, heavily autotuned and pitch-corrected vocals, that's kpop today, it all about eating (fake) cd's.
momo was dragged, enhypen was dragged, other groups that didn't sound perfect were dragged, but the groups that used loud backtrack "okay, the backtrack is a bit loud but you still hear their vocals". yeah
well the people using backtrack for encores don't get dragged but the ones making one mistake in their singing do get dragged.. so yes I see it becoming normal sadly. People these days expect perfection so much that lately so many groups are just lipsyncing, cause even that is not gonna get you dragged as much. I wish it was like how it was in 2nd gen, when idols weren't constantly worried about haters using one clip to prove that the idol can't sing and ignore all the other times it sounded fine.
Your voice cracking or being out of breath or out of tune even for a moment before it's corrected will automatically get them dragged for years. Most people don't care if they can sing, they just want to know if they can't. Stan twitter is full of people pulling out of context clips to "prove" their non-faves can't sing.
All of it reminds me of people getting mad that William Hung turned American Idol airing his audition so people could laugh at him into an actual career. We were raised on mean spirited reality TV for too long.
They've made it legit...they have. That was unheard of prior to Aespa last year. Making it "legit now" is another way of saying "they're starting it, and more people are going to."
I don't think you understand. It's not them. Music Core use backtrack for encore. It happen to NCT Dream too. Before Aespa encore
Music Core (have backtrack)
MCountdown (live)
Inkigayo (live)
Of course visual is the most important. Who would have though eh? It's freaking kpop. Hello? It always have been this way. There is nothing news in the youtube video that a sane person would think differently if they are into kpop.
Kpop as awhole has been trying to sell this perfect picture of idol singing live while dancing. Anybody with ears and logic can tell right the way if lipsync or not. Music show overall have been use heavy autotune, it's not just strictly happen in kpop. Look at mask singer for example.
If you want to see youtube channel talk about lip sync and autotune in kpop industry. See below.
Display MoreI don't think you understand. It's not them. Music Core use backtrack for encore. It happen to NCT Dream too. Before Aespa encore
Music Core (have backtrack)
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This is embarrassing. Not you, the person you quoted.
I thought about but stans and companies music shows etc are that obsessed by perfection that even some of the best vocalists in kpop get auto tuned or edited. Like in the west there are so many terrible performances are still being bought but guess what most of the time people use a joke, they are just funny because they don’t determine the artist singing ability Mariah,, Christina A. etc have a voice crack but that still doesn’t change the fact that they are some of the best singers. While in kpop once you have your bad moment people will pull the same encore stages how many times twice encore stage has been bought ? back in day BP were dragged for the MR videos while they proved many times they can hold a note.
well the people using backtrack for encores don't get dragged but the ones making one mistake in their singing do get dragged.. so yes I see it becoming normal sadly. People these days expect perfection so much that lately so many groups are just lipsyncing, cause even that is not gonna get you dragged as much. I wish it was like how it was in 2nd gen, when idols weren't constantly worried about haters using one clip to prove that the idol can't sing and ignore all the other times it sounded fine.
I think they get dragged because their singing is below average because I know a member that crack his voice during an encore and he didn't get dragged. Singing live doesn't need to be perfect but there's already a low expectation for idol singing and if they perform below that expectation, then...
Also, Aespa didn't get dragged because they are not the only group who perform encore w backtrack in Music Core. All the group encore from Music Core that I saw use backtrack.
I agree with you for the bold part. As someone who used to stan 2nd gen idols, I can relate. People are too critical with idols now.
yeah just dropping few encore who happened before even Aespa do their encore stage, but the person in the video prefered to target Aespa
Astro, obvious back track, they aren't even trying to hide it
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they just used one aespa encore stage as an example, they didn't say aespa were the only one to do it. Is it using an aespa video for an example targeting aespa for you?
also at the very beginning of the video the conter creator said is that everyone mentioned in the video sings well, they are just stating their opinions about the current sate of live vocals in Kpop.
In a pervious comment you said this channel was biased, but all I see you is being biased agiainst the channel, like chill not everything is done to go against your faves
Also, let me just drop this
kthxbye
Display MoreCan't relate with the thread title because
1. My faves are confident in their vocals, so confident that they always sing the wrong lyrics and get caught llllllllooooooollllllllllll backtrack can't save their embarassment
2. My faves are enlisting and we won't hear them in 2022
I loved your comment, you're so funny
btw as someone that dealt (and is dealing) with their faves enlistment is that time passes very quickly and I used that time as a detox from the kpop community :)
I'll survive this. When my ults enlist, I still have many other faves, they will keep me company
I'll survive this. When my ults enlist, I still have many other faves, they will keep me company
great 
This industry has always been obsessed with perfection since the super polished stage presentation is indeed a major part of k-pop's appeal.
What amplified this into starting to normalize pre-recorded vocals is the batshit crazy community of people who cannot wait to drag an idol over a missed note or two.
I think they get dragged because their singing is below average because I know a member that crack his voice during an encore and he didn't get dragged. Singing live doesn't need to be perfect but there's already a low expectation for idol singing and if they perform below that expectation, then...
Also, Aespa didn't get dragged because they are not the only group who perform encore w backtrack in Music Core. All the group encore from Music Core that I saw use backtrack.
I agree with you for the bold part. As someone who used to stan 2nd gen idols, I can relate. People are too critical with idols now.
well I think that if you stan someone who always lipsyncs you can't compare that person with the one who sounds less good but doesn't lipsync. That's all I'm saying and it's a fact that idols get dragged for nothing lately, to the point of everyone talking about it. I'm not talking about aespa not getting hate by the way, but in general idols don't get much hate when they lipsync which is weird to me. In america it's the opposite. Many singers there have days they don't sound so good but it's not a big deal, but when they lipsync and it's obvious..that's when they'll be in trouble. Singers lipsyncing will make you go viral instead. Some kpop fans also don't know how real live vocals sound so they'll drag everyone who doesn't sound like the audio. And I think if you're willing to drag everyone who doesn't sound amazing it's fine, but if you close your eyes to every idol who lipsyncs I can't help but think it's hypcritical. By the way, who's the idol you're talking about who didn't get hate?
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