KPOP will die in the West Along With BTS at this rate

  • How can the industry even kick out K-pop? As long as there's people wanting to listen to it, buy albums and go to concerts they will. The industry can't remove K-pop from YT and Spotify, nor impose a ban on K-pop imports nor deny the entry of Korean singers in US soil.

    True the west can’t do that. But they have other ways of gatekeeping foreign genres they have been doing for years

  • I agree OP, and the fact that no other group has reached BTS western success despite getting big company push from their own company and a us label like SuperM and BP have supports the claim. BTS are an exception, one that grew to big and to fast in the west for them to be denied but that won't stop the industry from blocking off others, tho tbh industry pushback isn't the only reason these groups aren't replicating BTS success.

  • Sorry if my post came off as rude. I do believe every act has garnered success in their own ways. I am just curious about whether the western industry is willing to tolerate another big non English act like BTS as they have well known for gatekeeping and BTS slipped under their radar

    I edited my post, i just answered the title and forgot to answer your post :pepe-peek: sorry kkkkk, but I said rude not you, and yes the idea of kpop disappearing when we could see the growth of others acts as well.

  • I agree OP, and the fact that no other group has reached BTS western success despite getting big company push from their own company and a us label like SuperM and BP have supports the claim. BTS are an exception, one that grew to big and to fast in the west for them to be denied but that won't stop the industry from blocking off others, tho tbh industry pushback isn't the only reason these groups aren't replicating BTS success.

    Really? :pepe-clown-gear:

  • For a fandom that loves to talk about how the American music industry gatekeeps Korea or Asian acts so much they themselves also do it...


    I mean everytime a new group promotes in the US or releases an English song it sure as shit isn't American fans trending Bts_Paved_The_Way or calling groups up on seeking" AmErIcAn VaLiDaTiOn" or whatever other bullshit they put on them for daring to try...Army love using this line about US fans doing their best to try and safegaurd the industry from 7 innocent Korean boys, but find themselves fanwarring with anyone and everyone who wants a small slither of that pie.

  • That seems exaggerated, there's no way of knowing these things. Btw Nsync hiatus and 1D there is an almost 10 year difference, in 2 or 3 years it may come a group that becomes just as a big as BTS, just like no one imagined BTS would be as big as it is today and the next big thing would be a big3 group.


    I do agree with the part that the western industry (aka US and UK) will never make it easier for Kpop groups, they will always favour their artists and make them seem bigger than than are. My hope is that BTS huge success and Kpop becoming popular made people realize there is so many great artists out there than the ones the US entertainment industry decides will become the next superstar.

  • I am just curious about whether the western industry is willing to tolerate another big non English act like BTS as they have well known for gatekeeping and BTS slipped under their radar

    The Western industry doesn't have to tolerate anything. BTS are where they are today because of their fans, and their fans didn't need the Western industry to hear about them in the first place. Or am I wrong?


    If fans tomorrow get enthralled by a brand new kpop group, then this group will be just as successful and no one will be able to do anything about it. If fans move onto other non kpop things once BTS disappears, then yes it will be the end of the kpopmania (ie. BTSmania). No conspiracy will be needed.

  • The hype will die out and it will stay the niche it is when you remove BTS.


    The presence in the media is pushed by BTS, so that will die out until another group with a similar demand shows up.


    But, as far as fans of other groups go, they won't leave K-pop because BTS no longer exists, unless BTS is their ult.

  • For a fandom that loves to talk about how the American music industry gatekeeps Korea or Asian acts so much they themselves also do it...


    I mean everytime a new group promotes in the US or releases an English song it sure as shit isn't American fans trending Bts_Paved_The_Way or calling groups up on seeking" AmErIcAn VaLiDaTiOn" or whatever other bullshit they put on them for daring to try...Army love using this line about US fans doing their best to try and safegaurd the industry from 7 innocent Korean boys, but find themselves fanwarring with anyone and everyone who wants a small slither of that pie.


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  • I don't think dying is the right term. I think recede is more correct. K-pop didn't magically show up in the West with BTS. It has a niche following here and once BTS is long gone it will still have a niche following here. The niche just got slightly larger. I always look at it like anime which flirted with being mainstream with Pokemon and Naruto, but ultimately retained it's niche following.


    I also do think you can never say never. People thought no one would able to break through with a Spanish language song again despite a fair portion of the US speaking it and then we had Despacito.

  • if youre talking about heights, I agree


    But kpop as whole wont suddenly lose its appeal because of one group. There are many casual kpop fans and fans of other kpop groups

    Kpop is definitely not losing its appeal or fans. I am more curious about the industry POV whether they will tolerate another big non English act or this is all just a ruse and they are just cashing in on the moment

  • For a fandom that loves to talk about how the American music industry gatekeeps Korea or Asian acts so much they themselves also do it...


    I mean everytime a new group promotes in the US or releases an English song it sure as shit isn't American fans trending Bts_Paved_The_Way or calling groups up on seeking" AmErIcAn VaLiDaTiOn" or whatever other bullshit they put on them for daring to try...Army love using this line about US fans doing their best to try and safegaurd the industry from 7 innocent Korean boys, but find themselves fanwarring with anyone and everyone who wants a small slither of that pie.

    Please keep this thread civil. I don’t want this to turn into a fanwar. And also the “Seeking western validation” has always been a BTS drag since they started promoting in the West in 2017

  • Kpop is definitely not losing its appeal or fans. I am more curious about the industry POV whether they will tolerate another non English act or this is all just a ruse and they are just cashing in on the moment

    It’s not up to the industry but music listeners.


    I don’t care if bts is Korean. They have catchy songs and make great mv.


    Same with Daddy Yankee. And I don’t understand Spanish.


    But the foreign acts better make music in english😂.

  • I agree with this. They'll probably use some of KPOP's marketing and promotional techniques, but few acts will be able to crossover like BTS.


    I also like how you brought up ABBA because that was the same comparison I was about to use. They're pretty much the biggest Swedish act of all time, selling millions of copies globally and snatching several hits, but this did little to help the Swedish music industry as a whole. Some acts get their few minutes of fame but that's all, they don't see any real, long-term success in the West.


    I think this is what we'll see with KPOP going forward(maybe to a smaller extent), as BTS disbands or something like that.

  • Kpop is definitely not losing its appeal or fans. I am more curious about the industry POV whether they will tolerate another non English act or this is all just a ruse and they are just cashing in on the moment

    If I'm being really honest, I don't think many even care about KPOP, they only care about BTS and also BP. Because those 2 are the top KPOP acts there and collabs probably bring them some sort of clout.


    If they really care about KPOP artists would have listened to more songs from various groups to really widen their scope.


    The industry only cares about taking advantage of what is popular and using it to their advantage

  • Please keep this thread civil. I don’t want this to turn into a fanwar. And also the “Seeking western validation” has always been a BTS drag since they started promoting in the West in 2017

    Kpop stans have selective memory lol don’t bother. Them attacking BTS and army is always forgotten. But army retaliating to that is what they will talk about while playing victims, just continue with your thread

  • Sadly after learning a lot about the western industry I’ve realized they still have so much control over what music gets to the gp. Gatekeeping is not something new to them

  • Kpop is definitely not losing its appeal or fans. I am more curious about the industry POV whether they will tolerate another non English act or this is all just a ruse and they are just cashing in on the moment

    I think it'll depend how the following non-English acts try to "push" into the west.

    One reason BTS gets the pushback from the western industry the way they do is cause they don't play by the western industries rules and their success can't be controlled by the western industry.

    They only have that distribution deal so its much harder for western companies to have any hold on BTS.

    If other kpop groups play more by western industries rules than they'll likely receive less pushback than BTS does.


    however, there will still be pushback since western companies will likely always prioritize american/english speaking acts

    i think that answers your question if i read it properly.

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