YG is run by complete morons. What were they THINKING on this decision with Babymonster?

Both are bops! Shaddup

Concepts matter, and Sheesh is their vision for BMs next couple of comebacks.

They wanted a hit with Sheesh, and now that they got it, YG will continue to go down this path. Yeah, Like That is better. YG also won't want any earnings from Like That going to Charlie Puth so Sheesh is financially better choice as the title track.

Thankfully you are not the one producing their comebacks because this song is just as mid as their title track, and at least with the other one they can exploit the blinks need of blackpink to their favor, they doing any other concept will just be worse for them rn.

for a group that is considered out of the race, they keeps to be on everyone's lips.

maybe YHS will win his bet after all

YG have been doing the same mistake since Treasure resulting that both of his mew group failed to gain attentiom from thr gp.

YG have been doing the same mistake since Treasure resulting that both of his new group failed to gain attention from the gp.

What does "dated" even mean though? Why would it matter what year it is, a song that is a bop is a bop no matter what year. Like am i gonna start hating on perhaps the best rock song ever made (Thunder Road by Bruce Springsteen) cause it was released 50 years ago?

I'm not so simple and weak minded that i let the massively clapped taste of the "general public" determine what is good and not good. I dont care what's "trendy", i care what's good and Sheesh is definitely good, not great, but good.

This song Like That is utterly mediocre except for the rap which i loved.

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You're welcome.

I did the same thing for ILLIT, when everybody thought they were nugu flops before debut.

I'm more than happy to do the same for Babymonster and give them some AKP noise marketing.

I don't know why you're even remotely triggered when I'm praising one of their songs though. Weird energy.

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Honestly, idc... cause i'm not fan but since you want to talk about it :

It's not just you or akp, I'm talking about general cases online

At this point YHS doesn't even need to do promos anymore, NJ Stans will do all his job.

Keep going

I def knew like that would be good even from the teaser. BUT YG doesn’t want to deviate from their signature sound, even if it results in no GP recognition for the grp.

They sell well and have a fanbase who will stream their music. They won’t be a force like BP but they’ll be ok

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All I know is I'll like their music a lot less if it's more "SHEESH" and less "Like That"

Releasing polarizing songs worked out for BP/2ne1. But YG needs to realize we’re in 2024.

They don’t have the rep like they used to and music trends have changed

Honestly i like it more than their title song

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Concepts matter, and Sheesh is their vision for BMs next couple of comebacks.

They wanted a hit with Sheesh, and now that they got it, YG will continue to go down this path. Yeah, Like That is better. YG also won't want any earnings from Like That going to Charlie Puth so Sheesh is financially better choice as the title track.

How is it a hit when its a flop in SK?

like that is a bop wbk, i'd also like to see them doing more r&b

The girls are good, their songs sucks. Only Batter Up was kind of good. YGs songs have gone down hill since late 2NE1/early BP area.

I said the same thing. YG is an idiot for not using this song as the Title Track, but let's be honest, he didn't do it because the title of the songs is basically the shorter version of Blackpink's 'How you like that'. Maybe that's why Koreans love it because they think it's a Blackpink song. 😅

For me, this is their best song. The lyrics and the rap parts doesn't feel forced. Honestly, this song doesn't have the typical YG style, that's the other reason they didn't promote it, probably.

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You might not like "sheesh" but i least next time you heard someone say sheesh you will think about BM song

I beg to differ! 🤣

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How is it a hit when its a flop in SK?

Well, South Korea is not the only country with charts.

I'm looking at other charts like Spotify, YT, iTunes and it's doing numbers.

I think YG just wanted BM to debut that has a YG-sound in it.

Like That is a good song and deserves an MV. It sounded like some songs in 90s which I like.

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Well, South Korea is not the only country with charts.

I'm looking at other charts like Spotify, YT, iTunes and it's doing numbers.

They're doing numbers, but not good numbers, especially compared to YG standards.

Can Puth buy YG?

This is not YGs target image for them, Sheesh was a better title track for them as it is their concept, it was the right choice.

However, they need to push Like That as a second song. YG had a tradition with BP that I wish he would continue with BM is that they push a second song from the album simultaneously with the title, not after weeks.

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Haven't heard the song but with the way Koreans are so whipped for that man, if they'd put (.prod Charlie Puth) on it, they could have easily wiped out Illit and Idle

I have zero thoughts on him, i heard he's s bit annoying but i don't follow non-bts celebs on social media, i have no idea what they are doing lol. But it's a good song, easily the best. It's not even close

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I couldn't disagree more. The target image was poorly conceived, and the ramifications of that poor choice is that Korea isn't interested in listening to their music at all, because it's a dish they've been served before, and they're ready to sample something else from the menu. But YG insists on serving them the same platter over and over.

That's the issue here. There is absolutely nothing whatsoever that would distinguish Sheesh from any other song in BlackPink's catalogue, and that was absolutely not the case when BP debuted. Whistle and Boombayah did not sound like a song I'd expect from 2NE1's discography.

Like That should've at least been pushed as a double title track and heavily promoted, to show off Babymonster's talents in a way that isn't immediately overshadowed by and compared to their predecessors. That's just how I feel at least.

Look, as a fan of the girls, I do want an image for them that is more vocal focused since 7/7 can really sing.

However, GC sound if done right is good, and would be expected (and very much liked) only from YG. I DO agree that they need to distinguish more from BP, like instead of empty choruses focus on vocal choruses, but not to abandon Girl Crush, as the girls really suit it.

And girl crush does not need to be rap focused like BPs. Shooting Star type of concept or Shut Down type would be best, Girl Crush with focus on vocal.

I do agree on the double title, thats what I said that I wish YG would adopt fromBP as they did double titles or if not a second title a heavily pushed b side from Day 1 (forever young, pretty savage, etc)

Like That is soooooo good, but would be away froma GC concept, thats why its better as a 2nd title/pushed b side.

This is what a fan (like me) would want, as opposed to a casual listener like you would want from the girls.

actually this is such a Smart/Easy situation.

Everybody liked Smart more, but it is not Lesserafim concept, Easy is. So what Source did is the best, week later nad they started to promote Smart. While keeping their image!

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What does "dated" even mean though? Why would it matter what year it is, a song that is a bop is a bop no matter what year. Like am i gonna start hating on perhaps the best rock song ever made (Thunder Road by Bruce Springsteen) cause it was released 50 years ago?

I'm not so simple and weak minded that i let the massively clapped taste of the "general public" determine what is good and not good. I dont care what's "trendy", i care what's good and Sheesh is definitely good, not great, but good.

This song Like That is utterly mediocre except for the rap which i loved.

You don't call songs released ages ago dated. They reflect the time they were made in and what was popular back then. Songs that are called dated are songs released today but sound like they were made back then. Dated and inspired by certain decade aren't the same. Newjeans songs don't sound dated, kiss of life's midas touch doesn't sound it either. But sheesh sounds like it was made 5 years ago, their composers didn't even try to arrange it differently and make it sound modern.

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actually this is such a Smart/Easy situation.

Everybody liked Smart more, but it is not Lesserafim concept, Easy is. So what Source did is the best, week later nad they started to promote Smart. While keeping their image!

Easy is better

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Easy is better

I really like both, lesserafim has that touch on me

Easy/smart/swan song are alternating for my fav song of the album

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So this is just my read on everything I've read and watched regarding Baemon's debut and now subsequent comeback:

YG had the perfect opportunity to zag, when everyone expected them to zig, but they wasted it by deciding to zig as expected.

Basically, when there was still immense interest and excitement over what the next YG girl group, Babymonster, would bring to the K-Pop soundscape, a lot of people were expecting YG to give them essentially a BP song but hoping it would be something different and outside their expectations.

But that's exactly what he did, and a lot of people, myself included, were disappointed. And these were sentiments I saw expressed by Korean netizens in translated articles, and their charting there reflects that.

Babymonster ARE talented, and Ahyeon in particular blew me away. To me, songs like Like That suit them so much better than forcing girl crush down our throats for another generation, and it's so different from what BP put out as well.

I'm just a consumer with an opinion at the end of the day, not a company executive, but I can't help but feel it was such a misstep.

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I do agree that they need that extra special thing to really shine, YG did miss to add that.

well I can't see this one as a title track