Can people above 18 stan minors?

not if you decide to act like teshub and drew

I'm facing the same struggle with NewJeans, I love them, but don't sit me right to stan them. They are from another generation, it's even hard to connect with them in a more personal level

It was one of the reasons I connected more easily with Zerobaseone, most of them being older

I'm honestly considering dropping kpop once my favorite groups disbands (if ever), I can't see myself over 30 stanning 14-15 years old idols of 5th gen

Imo you can’t stan them and you’re creepy if you do.

You can be a fan and enjoy their music but you can never be a stan.

there is no justifiable reason for an adult to take personal interest in a child and “stan” them.

Edit : here stan refers to people who follow every action including behind the scenes and vlogs and personal updates of members. If you’re a grown ass adult that much interested in kids lives you’re creepy no two ways about it.

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Ew obviously no.

Then you aren’t a stan? lol. Unless you do those things you’re not a stan 💀

Stan isn’t another word for anyone who likes a group. You have to display a specific set of mega obsessive behaviors.

Change your thread to “fan”

In which case anyone can be a fan of anything.

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Wait I though stan and fan mean the same thing. Where does "stan" even come from?

Stan = stalker fan.

You’re a stan if you obsessively like a group. I do love like and follow everything EXO does vlogs, variety and everything. So I “stan” exo.

Well... there are some groups involving minors that I kind of like because of their music, but I personally don't consider myself a stan.

Yeah? Just dont be a creep about it.

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Imo you can’t stan them and you’re creepy if you do.

You can be a fan and enjoy their music but you can never be a stan.

there is no justifiable reason for an adult to take personal interest in a child and “stan” them.

Edit : here stan refers to people who follow every action including behind the scenes and vlogs and personal updates of members. If you’re a grown ass adult that much interested in kids lives you’re creepy no two ways about it.

I dont think that really makes you creepy and trying to make it sound creepy is a bit odd? A stan can also simply be a devoted and enthusiastic.

Millions of people around the world have 'stanned' plenty of minor idols for decades and the world didn't end. And I'm pretty sure people use 'stan' interchangeably with fan nowadays. The same obvious rule for minors applies to them as any other minors. Their brains are still developing and they have few rights compared to adults, and they are also more vulnerable in the world so keep a safe protective distance from them.

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Wait I though stan and fan mean the same thing. Where does "stan" even come from?

Stan originated from Eminem's song about his obsessed fan

You can get the context if you watch

Stan no, support yes

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Wtf? You guy's are just making up group names now

Stan Zerobaseone! They're debuting July 10th (same day as EXO)

I think stan came from Eminem's song 'Stan'. It should be the origin of the definition (of course the word probably appear long before that, but I think the song solidified what it means). However time changes and people who did not know the origin and meaning of the word, uses it daily to say that they really really like the group.

If you go with the original definition of a stan, it essentially the same as sasaeng. So if you're a proud Stan, you're a proud Sasaeng, in which I don't think that's a good look. But again, the meaning of the word is being interpreted differently now since people don't know its origin. Even if you tell them now, they won't care and categorized themselves as not a sasaeng.

It's KPOP, people have selective decision.

dont bother what people say

only you know if your actions have underlying meanings or not

if you think they are not out of the ordinary from real life, then you shouldnt care what others think

maybe for the sake of your mental health, keep it to yourself

people on the internet will always scrutinize every single action of others and will try to tell everyone they are wrong

if you must care about what everyone here thinks, you shouldnt even call your neighbour's toddler cute

Even if they dont look so from outside when I learn their age they feel like kids to me I can like the music but I feel uncomfortable watching MV or performances if I think it's not appropriate for their age.

If you mean by buying an album to support them yeah definitely.. If you mean eating/drinking/using whatever they like and going to cafe that they ''sit'' before then no...

I don't think there should be any problem of an adult being a fan of a minor as long as they are not weird about it, one can admire and support someone regardless of age. Now if they are being obssessed or weird about then that is a no.

I think each of us have some boundaries. For me, I think it's normal watching their variety content, buying albums, going to concerts. I draw a line for direct interactions, like fanmeetings or fan calls, I know some people defended them in other thread, the interaction is pretty short, but I'm not very excited to talk with teenagers as an adult.

Anythings okay as long as it isnt creepy or sexual.

Anyone can stan anyone, just dont be a perv or a weirdo about it by stalking them in real life or via DM/commenting on their personal social media accnts.

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not if you decide to act like teshub and drew

What a sic fucking burn lol

you can talk all you want about what people can or cannot do, but how are you gonna stop them?

i honestly am conflicted too

im 18 and i rlly like newjean's music and i watch their content sometimes, and i admire them in the sense i want to be confident and pretty like them

but like well hyein's like younger than my younger sister so i feel kinda idk rlly conflicted

i dont feel that weird with eunchae, bc well we're essentially only a few months apart and she's rlly adorable

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I dont think that really makes you creepy and trying to make it sound creepy is a bit odd? A stan can also simply be a devoted and enthusiastic.

Wdym devoted

You already sound creepy 😭

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i honestly am conflicted too

im 18 and i rlly like newjean's music and i watch their content sometimes, and i admire them in the sense i want to be confident and pretty like them

but like well hyein's like younger than my younger sister so i feel kinda idk rlly conflicted

i dont feel that weird with eunchae, bc well we're essentially only a few months apart and she's rlly adorable

Lol you are a teenager

you do not get classified in the creep category

A fan can stan minors but only at a young age themselves. Anyone over 40 especially for female idols is just wrong imo.

I think liking their work is fine (to the extent of saying "Yeah, I like her, she's a good performer") and appreciating them is fine.

If they are the only minor in the group (or minors are the miniority) I think stanning the group and other members is fine.

But actively stanning them, making them your "favorite", having a folder full of their pictures, getting their name tattooed on your chest... that raises eyebrows

Why not? That's not even a new thing. It's quite normal in Japan. Sakura even get used to having middle age uncle fan during her AKB era.

idk i have 4th gen groups i like but i can't really "stan" them or connect to them in the way i did 2nd or 3rd gen groups. not bc i think it's creepy but i guess their content is just kinda childish

i bought a nj sweatshirt bc i think their logo is cute and i like them, and i was influenced to buy a pair a sneakers that i saw in one of their ads that i thought were super cute. i like their music. but i don't think i could be more than a casual listener

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It's quite normal in Japan

Yes and no.

Those kind of middle age idle otakus ARE common, but also viewed as all a bit weird by normies

DON'T WE HAVE THIS SAME CONVERSATION EVERY OTHER WEEK!!!! DAMN!!!?!?!?!?

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DON'T WE HAVE THIS SAME CONVERSATION EVERY OTHER WEEK!!!! DAMN!!!?!?!?!?

This one, for now, has a lot less hating on male fans so thats a plus