Yes, Ive is the superior 4th Gen gg. Ive can take it all👍🏼
I referred to them as the Blackpink of the 4th generation, disruptors who might be engineering a cultural reset in Kpop trends at this very minute. Ive would be the Twice of this generation, the national girl group, the biggest act in Korea right now.
Plus this all fits in the timeline of Kpop. Twice started the 3.5 generation of Kpop in Oct 2015, with BP storming in the next year on Aug 2016. Ive started the 4.5 generation of Kpop in Dec 2021, with Newbeans storming in the next year on Aug 2022.
Aespa, Idle, StayC and Itzy could be the Mamamoo, OMG, Gfriend and Red Velvet of 4th gen. With Izone being the IOI of 4th gen.
IVE have the biggest GG song of the year in Korea, a song that went top 20 on Spotify Global, has the highest UL peak for a 4th gen group and a million selling single album.
And if we wanna talk about "global" they literally demolish NJ in Japan. I'm sorry to break it to you but there's really no other answer but them. The downplaying of IVE's stats by big4 stans is quite frankly crazy and I don't believe we'd be seeing stuff like this if they were from SM or something.
IVE have the biggest GG song of the year in Korea, a song that went top 20 on Spotify Global, has the highest UL peak for a 4th gen group and a million selling single album.
And if we wanna talk about "global" they literally demolish NJ in Japan. I'm sorry to break it to you but there's really no other answer but them. The downplaying of IVE's stats by big4 stans is quite frankly crazy and I don't believe we'd be seeing stuff like this if they were from SM or something.
Yes, we know 
Ummm beat Ive without playlisting first and then we can talk. They entered top 10 on Apple Music and Top 25 on Spotify with less industry help. At least LSF can enter Top 50 without playlisting so you are more like third place right now. After Like will beat Hype Boy in longevity and your entire album was on tons of playlists. Once Ive get a mini it is over for y’all.
After like is now the fastest 4th gen song to reach 90M streams…doing it in 65 days breaking up their own record 
IVE is the new nation's GG. SNSD to Twice to IVE.
Global group? Maybe. Time will tell as things shake out between the groups.
But, to be honest, I don't think BP's success on the global front can be duplicated. It's pretty exceptional how popular they are.
Ummm beat Ive without playlisting first and then we can talk. They entered top 10 on Apple Music and Top 25 on Spotify with less industry help. At least LSF can enter Top 50 without playlisting so you are more like third place right now. After Like will beat Hype Boy in longevity and your entire album was on tons of playlists. Once Ive get a mini it is over for y’all.
Hype Boy was not the playlisted song just fyi...
IVE have the biggest GG song of the year in Korea, a song that went top 20 on Spotify Global, has the highest UL peak for a 4th gen group and a million selling single album.
And if we wanna talk about "global" they literally demolish NJ in Japan. I'm sorry to break it to you but there's really no other answer but them. The downplaying of IVE's stats by big4 stans is quite frankly crazy and I don't believe we'd be seeing stuff like this if they were from SM or something.
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Ummm beat Ive without playlisting first and then we can talk. They entered top 10 on Apple Music and Top 25 on Spotify with less industry help. At least LSF can enter Top 50 without playlisting so you are more like third place right now. After Like will beat Hype Boy in longevity and your entire album was on tons of playlists. Once Ive get a mini it is over for y’all.
Well it's look hype boy will overlast after like in Spotify global. That song still thriving even Taylor swift onslaught
Ummm beat Ive without playlisting first and then we can talk. They entered top 10 on Apple Music and Top 25 on Spotify with less industry help. At least LSF can enter Top 50 without playlisting so you are more like third place right now. After Like will beat Hype Boy in longevity and your entire album was on tons of playlists. Once Ive get a mini it is over for y’all.
Well i actually am not in third place because I’m not in New Jeans, but i mean i also like Le Sserafim and IVE so I’m okay with any of the groups doing well but tbh its getting old that any of these achievements that are just straight up achievements some salty ass little IVE stan, who by the way i have not said anything bad about because i also like their music, gets like threatened by the competition of another group being equally talented and successful.
If you ask me IVE can keep korea and stay famous there because then eventually all of the IVE stans will follow suit of ONCE and stop raining on parades they were never even invited to!
Well i actually am not in third place because I’m not in New Jeans, but i mean i also like Le Sserafim and IVE so I’m okay with any of the groups doing well but tbh its getting old that any of these achievements that are just straight up achievements some salty ass little IVE stan, who by the way i have not said anything bad about because i also like their music, gets like threatened by the competition of another group being equally talented and successful.
If you ask me IVE can keep korea and stay famous there because then eventually all of the IVE stans will follow suit of ONCE and stop raining on parades they were never even invited to!
you made a blanket statement with insane claims, now crying because someone responded?
I actually made a blanket statement with proof to follow and I’m also not crying, rather complaining.
Did you bring data or just a sassy comment?
They can disagree all they want, but numbers are numbers
hit us with numbers, then
Sis drop ur obsession with playlisting before we talk, and hype boy is already out streaming after like
AL has already 90M streams 
Hype Boy was not the playlisted song just fyi...
The song had the double of playlists than AL when AL was in the top 50 and HB out of the top 100 😭😭😭
HONG EUNCHAE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IVE > Le Sserafim > StayC > NewJeans
StayC?! This thread is a mess 😭
you are setting up nj really hard cause only place nj can compete against ive is on spotify and even after big playlisting they still couldnt reach ive's peak on spotify global chart. if we talk about youtube, itunes, apple music, qq, oricon, all charts that ive did extremely well while nj are barely to be seen... im not even gonna talk about how eleven, love dive and after like were massive hits both among kpop ifans and korea, or how they are the hottest kpop gg in japan rn. and that they broke sales records with a singles album and sold +100k units in us. yall pretend its so easy to do that just bc its ive doing it. let nj replicate everything ive did or even surpass it then we can talk
okay sis
Where tf are the newjeans stans y’all just letting your girls getting eaten in here
not stressed, newjeans have had 0 (zero) comebacks and lots of time. there are threads everyday about this group and it's not easy to keep track of it all
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