Im just curious, why are kpop fans convinced BB members knew Seungri's deal but give pass to Zico even though he mentioned JJY's golden phone

Zico is so bland

I have no idea why people even like him in the first place

I think because Zico was never involved legally and unless you were around at the time, you wouldn't know he is involved. Also, golden phone thing is still speculation, informed speculation but still speculation.

But people did suspect zico. At the time when his golden phone comment was made a ton of people said he was just as fishy as BB including n this forum.

However things fizzled out because nothing happened to zico. He was never officially linked with anything. Same situation as BB, highly sus but at the end of the day no actual hard evidence

It's a little weird to me, because I think BB was not exactly subtle in viewing Seungri as the odd man out. I mean, they weren't ever mean to him on TV, but the other four were noticeably closer and you can tell they viewed him as a bit snake-like with how they poked fun at him.

I suspect it may have something to do with the fact that kpop stans want to view the groups as families rather than as coworkers. Which is funny when multiple groups have made a point of saying they aren't bffs with each other.

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but BB members were not legally involved with Seungri as well?

Also I like to hear another explanation as to what other thing the golden phone may have referred to bc I cant come up with any

BB members get implicated more because they were close to Seungri and didn't they make comments that implied that Seungri was troublesome? Some people took that to mean they knew what was going on. Also, wasn't YG implicated as well. I don't remember exact details.

Also, as for golden phone...I don't know. I have never been his fan so I don't keep up. I just remember how some of his fans responded at the time. That it's all speculation. Similar to BB members. A lot of people don't think BB members are connected too.

To answer seriously, BIGBANG members openly talked about how they didn't like the people that attached themselves to Seungri.

They even called them "bad people" on TV shows.

All of the members, but I specifically remember GD and T.O.P, saying that he should edit people out of his life because they were taking advantage of him and accused Seungri of being a friend collector and would always say yes to people. Like he didn't understand that there are hangers-on that seek out famous people like in Hollywood

They knew there were bad people around Seungri, but didn't know anything specific, because they famously live very individual lives and really each had their own friend groups outside of BIGBANG.

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So there is speculation around it

but people are alot more firm on speculating on BB members rather than Zico, even though his comments also pointed toward him knowing about the phone contents

BIGBANG members didn't know all of the stuff about Seungri. Just that they didn't like the people who were around him.

The Zico stuff came from a comment he made on a TV show.

Some may extrapolate out of that.

when it first went down people did especially international fans

but people did condemn zico and for a long time, any news or articles concerning him also bought the golden phone up. he wasn't found doing anything illegal though so over time with the popularity of his music, it faded into the background. he also effectively cut contact with jjy and people affiliated with the whole burning sun scandal. his music is popular and he has kept himself out of trouble since, but if he screwed up, he'll be flamed.

big bang as a whole are shady and they used to joke about seungri being the odd one out and hanging out with shoddy people as a funny selling point on tv and even after the seungri was sentenced, they still showed covert support so...

Zico is irrelevant rn and doesn't have a lot of international fans (really, when was the last time you saw a zico stan acc??? ) but yes he deserves to be side eyed for the "golden phone"

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Zico is irrelevant rn and doesn't have a lot of international fans (really, when was the last time you saw a zico stan acc??? ) but yes he deserves to be side eyed for the "golden phone"

I remember reading somewhere that his enlistment was pretty sudden, that he still had time to continue his career (he was 27 when he enlisted). Some fans or Knetz were speculating that he ran away to the military to lay low and escape public scrutiny .

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As a funny selling point? They mentioned his shady friends as a serious concern they have. There was nothing funny about the moment.

“They” ? Showed covert support? You mean that one time GD was sitting next to a Made OT5 Poster ? And talked about memories with the Group? Or when he showed his apartment and there was a painting of BB as 5 ( which is a older painting btw). That was the ONLY time and tbh doesn’t mean that he supports Seungri’s wrongdoings. But nice how you leave out how TOP cropped out Seungri on Insta or how there was no reference to Seungri in their comeback, even though the comeback theme was about their life and nostalgia.

It’s interesting how you pick one moment of one member which is more speculative and ignore all the other moments where it’s clear they distance themself from him. This is pretty selective.

And knowing you definitely not follow them your source is not really nuanced or stan Twitter.

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I laughed at that as well bcoz I remember exactly how serious and genuine TOP was when he mentioned it but its not worth responding to those with fixed agendas in their mind.

I still side eye zico because of that

never really liked his music

We all know why I guess.. cancel culture is kinda messy

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We all know why I guess.. cancel culture is kinda messy

some of you need to stop bringing up cancel culture when there are actual crimes involved

Who told you Zico was given a pass? I recall him literally being dragged by both inetz and knetz, but he had a song that blew up and then people just forgot about him. He's actually on my shit list as well. I have quite a few idols on my shit list actually, I just don't spare much energy toward them because me being outraged at them doesn't change anything in the grand scheme of things, and quite frankly, I just can't be bothered to waste energy dwelling on them either. I prefer to just ignore them other than the occasional comments here and there if the topic is brought up.

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Who told you Zico was given a pass? I recall him literally being dragged by both inetz and knetz, but he had a song that blew up and then people just forgot about him. He's actually on my shit list as well. I have quite a few idols on my shit list actually, I just don't spare much energy toward them because me being outraged at them doesn't change anything in the grand scheme of things, and quite frankly, I just can't be bothered to waste energy dwelling on them either. I prefer to just ignore them other than the occasional comments here and there if the topic is brought up.

share the shit list

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some of you need to stop bringing up cancel culture when there are actual crimes involved

But the question is about public perception so I don’t think there’s a problem with calling it “cancel culture”. It’s true that since that yourfaveisproblematic rose to fame even tho there were benefits (raising awareness to many issues) there were a bunch of cons too, there are so many problematic behavior from kpop stars that tend to be forgotten because the idol itself isn’t famous or relevant enough to be brought into fanwars.

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share the shit list

I still want to live

I remember Zico got dragged for a long time because of the golden phone comment. But then it fizzled out after that hit song of his.

Kpop fandom politics also play a role in it

iirc zico unfollowed and cut ties with jjy in 2016 even though they used to be best friends so it's more believable that zico at least disapproved of something jjy did before he was publicly exposed

but honestly if zico even gets into a whiff of controversy again I'm sure golden phone will be brought up

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iirc zico unfollowed and cut ties with jjy in 2016 even though they used to be best friends so it's more believable that zico at least disapproved of something jjy did before he was publicly exposed

but honestly if zico even gets into a whiff of controversy again I'm sure golden phone will be brought up

On that note re: JJY - I can never see roy kim in the same way again- he was never charged with anything but him being besties with JJY for years makes me uncomfortable.

People got over it when anysong came out.

As far as I'm concerned, he's bottom of the barrel trash like his friends but even the journalists covering Burning Sun/Molka scandal were doing his dance challenge

I think ppl forgot about zico. seungri got a lot of attention and with everything going on I think ppl focused more on him. I do remember it being on the news though, but as he was cleared of anything, ppl simply didnt care? honestly I forgot about it too. but yes, I dont buy it too that bb/zico didnt know about anything. so I dont understand the hype bb got with their cb.

Because Idk who Zico is