be honest

I mean girls have crushes on older guys and do go after them sometimes? Same for boys might have a crush on your sisters best friend whose older etc..?

People making wild accusations and theorys like hes been into her for 11 years or something.

You say you pass no judgement yet your post is passing judgement.

Girls dont need your protection shes not a weak girl who cant say no.

Their past is irrelevant people who think he groomed her or something either provid the proof or stop baseless accusations, they are both adults.

And why do you think GD was present in her life?? When she was a trainee do you think they saw each other every week? All are you all trying to paint it like they were friends? They knew each other, but not to the point of being soooo close like some of you say. Just see GD career and see who he is friends with, not the pinks.

And yes, I would date. Feeling are not controlled.

Personally I would be uncomfortable with it but even if it was someone close to me like my sister, I would come around if I verify the person's intentions are pure & their new found romance was not "planned"

I don't care when they met, the only thing that matters now is they are 32 and 25.

Jennie is a GROWN ADULT. SHE IS 24, SHE CAN MAKE HER CHOICES. If it is a bad choice, it's on her. If it is a good choice, it's on her.

As far as I know, GD is a good man and not a predator.

In Heechul's case, Momo is an adult too, She made a choice, and I believe it was the right one.

Age gap of 18+ years, is something that lies in doubtful category.

imo

its weird for gd not for jennie

unbalanced power dynamic? lmao please, you can drop the fake concern

relationships and feelings can develop over time. You don't know what happened behind the scenes, I think it's weird that you're making it look like he purposely been prying on her since she was a young trainee and waited for her to grow up to date her

I will not lie I find it strange but it is her choice

It's the fake concern for me

how is that weird??? They could have been friends for a while and then realized they have feelings for each other once they are an adult.

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you literally have no clue what their relationship was? just like i don't. i never even tried to say they were "fiends". i said they had a cordial, friendly relationship. you rlly think they didn't see each other more than once? they worked in the same building... they filmed a whole ass mv together. but ok.

Why did you say you weren't judging him when you are???

I have no clue, but I have a clue that if she is dating him I will think it's bc she loves him, not bc he is obligating her to.

They filmed a mv together, so what? It took a less than some days, not her whole teenager life.

And why are talking about domestic violence? Toxic relationship? Just bc you saw their dating news, you thought about it? You have serious problems then. I hope you seek help.

And just say what you want to say about him and stop this "I'm not judging him, but read my whole essay about how I view their non confirmed relationship "

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i think this kind of rhetoric is rlly sad and toxic. its only "fake concern" bc im not a part of the fandom? i can't wish for the health and safety of female idols at the hands of older male idols i have never been comfortable with? just say you don't care about women and go. like who are you actually defending bc i never wished either jennie or gd ill. the behavior/circumstance is whats making me uncomfortable.

get over yourselves.

Oh, so the problem is bc you are not "comfortable" with GD, a stranger who you never saw irl, never met, he never did something to you, but somehow you are uncomfortable with him and now you are making this thread bc a female idol is dating him.... Ok ..

And you are not wishing him ill .. ok...

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i think this kind of rhetoric is rlly sad and toxic. its only "fake concern" bc im not a part of the fandom? i can't wish for the health and safety of female idols at the hands of older male idols i have never been comfortable with? just say you don't care about women and go. like who are you actually defending bc i never wished either jennie or gd ill. the behavior/circumstance is whats making me uncomfortable.

get over yourselves.

It really doesn't matter who you're comfortable with or not, you're not the one dating him. What circumstance? You said yourself none of us know what actually happened and how this r/s came to be, so. Saying I "don't care about women" is a bit of a stretch seeing as I am one.

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don't put words in my mouth, i never said that . and either way no one knows whether that was the case or not. just like you said, WE don't know what happened behind the scenes.

I never said YOU said those words. I said the way you're describing it makes sounds like that was how it appeared like from your point of view. You compared her relationship to young girls that gets trapped into toxic relationships due to different power dynamics just because of her age difference with gd

Anyways shes a full grown adult ffs. Not a young teenage girl who is vulnerable

Jennie is 25. I repeat, she is 25. A grown ass woman. She doesn't need people that usually shade her to start throwing around fake concern.

I may not be approving but its not my, or your, relationship. She is more than old enough to make this decision for herself. She's not some needy, helpless woman in need of saving.

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how are you equating a teenager having a crush to an adult having interest in a teenager..... i am not trying to insinuate jennie and gd has a relationship when she was underage anyway, and i made NO accusations. literally said i cannot pass definitive judgement on him. bc i don't know him, just like you don't. the concerning part is the behaviors just like this that put young girls around the globe at risk DAILY. it doesnt matter if a young teen is interested in an adult. the ADULT should be able to put the safety of the teen first and deny advances. what, are you just magically interested in teenagers as an adult bc they're interested in you? this is not the equivalency you think it is.

its kind of sick that you think women and girl aren't greatly under protected in this world. i never insinuated jennie was "weak" and needing protection does not make someone "weak". domestic violence survivors are some of the strongest women in the world.

i see blinks toting around "feminism" bc they stan female idols is all a farce.

you literally have no clue what their relationship was? just like i don't. i never even tried to say they were "fiends". i said they had a cordial, friendly relationship. you rlly think they didn't see each other more than once? they worked in the same building... they filmed a whole ass mv together. but ok.

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Your posts are posting judgement throughout lmfao.

Will there ever be a time where Kpop stans show basic decency and not drag the departed into completely irrelevant shit?

Protect Sulli from what?

Choiza?

Sulli, her colleagues, her friends and even her own mother have defended Choiza and the relationship they had. Nobody has ever even hinted at him mistreating her, stop projecting just because of their age gap. Ffs she dated somebody even older than him after they broke up. She just liked older guys.

Leave her alone.

Leave Jennie alone too. She's had enough of people telling her who she is and how she's supposed to be.

no one cares

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don't put words in my mouth, i never said that . and either way no one knows whether that was the case or not. just like you said, WE don't know what happened behind the scenes.

then There absolutely no reason to make this thread. Made no points here.

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i could say the same about half the threads you make on this site, luv. i made this thread bc i felt compelled to speak about this. i don't care whether you think i made a point or not. that in itself proves my point anyway.

Say it, Come on, Don't be shy. I ain't afraid.

I already you for exposed for not being able to take an opinion in previous forum. So sad, you couldn't respond to it. Maybe you were too embarrassed to respond.

Snowflake culture will be the death of Western society.

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just.. what? i have no idea what you're even talking about but keep trying to come at me sideways with non related, personal attacks. i don't understand how having a different opinion as someone else is "not being able to take an opinion", nor do i understand how refusing to respond to nonsense is "being embarassed to respond". your toxicity jumped out. again, i don't even know what exactly you're referring to but if im that impactful that shit im up to remains more vivid in your mind than it does in my own, guess i won.

Not even a personal attack.

You made multiple threads on stupid topics especially on Treasure (I remember), Said something about ITZY, and whatnot.

You had me, probably, ignored that's why you don't know.

Let me give a heads up:-

https://www.allkpop.com/forum/…or-baekhyun.520473/page-2

Look at your post, Unprovoked, Completely STUPID comment.

Anyway, back to the topi,

Oh wait----

There isn't one.

Anyway, Sorry for derailing your thread.

Unbalanced power my butt

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word of advice. grow up

Thanks for advice.

One for you too :- Get a life

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yeah, we're rlly going to pretend like sulli's relationship with choiza didn't completely rob her of her career and cause in part a lot of the hate she recieved back then. and like he didn't write a sexually explicit, demeaning song about her. the fact that she has passed does not erase the things that happened and her story is even more important now than ever with the mental health of idols continuously being disregarded. anyway they defended choiza against accusations that he was the cause of her passing, and i agree its very unfair to say he was. i never insinuated he "abused" her or anything like that.

do you really think me hoping for jennie's heath and safety is "telling her whyat to do"? or did you make up in your head what i said instead of actually understanding my post?

You're telling a romanticized version of story you don't even understand

People are responsible for their own trashy actions. If someone's response to a girl dating somebody older is "no wonder she's lazy on stage" and other disgusting sex "jokes", that's the result of their own shitty character. It's very odd that you're pinning that on him. Or acting like there weren't a ton of reasons she was getting hate. Remember her IG? Or her "braless" issue? Or the fact that SM forced her into this innocent, pure virgin image that attracted her a crazy ass incel fanbase that went ballistic after she "betrayed" them and hounded her until the end? Or her decision to be a progressive, feminist woman in a conservative, misogynist society

She promoted that comeback, nobody ever said that song was even about her and she was hella open about their relationship, despite the backlash it got her. Even 2 years after their break-up, Sulli said she didn't regret a thing, even how public the relationship was and that she was completely fine with him.

Her relationship with him wasn't an issue, it was people's sense of ownership over women and a slut-shaming culture that was. Tell it like it is instead of making up your own narrative

Respect Sulli.

Respect her story as it is, because there's so much to be gleaned from it and more pressing things that contributed to her poor mental health, starting from her childhood.

Her dad abandoned her, her mom pushed her into show business and dumped her in SM dorms when she was 10, she suffered from low self-esteem and social anxiety since she was a kid, she was put in a group she wasn't right in or comfortable with. She was forced to be somebody she wasn't and was constantly dragged for being herself. Her family used her for money and disowned her once she became financially independent. Her mother didn't even go see her after her suicide attempt. Her friends abandoning her. The media and her "fans" constantly hounded her just because she wanted to a carefree adult. The rumors. The slut-shaming. The misogny. The constant harassment from journalists. SM's failure to act on her behalf despite her repeatedly begging them too. A poor mental health structure.

There were a lot of people and things Sulli needed protection from.

Choiza just wasn't one

Stop projecting

A perfect time to plug this epic quote from Yeeun

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You wrote this comment while pretending to be wise, but do you know how pathetic what you’re saying is? Sulli wasn’t an inexperienced person who needed to be guided; she was a respectable adult and an honest person who was true to her emotions and thoughts. The problem wasn’t the sincerity of their love for each other, it was the malicious commenters who looked at the relationship of these two people with bias, said unspeakable things, and were envious and obsessed. Why was a culture created where people in hip hop view women as an accessory of their success? It’s probably because of society’s perspective where women are seen as accessories of men. Instead of seeing women as independent entities, they suppress their rights and quiet them while defining them as someone’s woman, someone’s wife, and someone’s mother. How does society act towards men? The man should’ve helped her, the man should’ve led her, the man should’ve stopped her—Does a woman’s decision have to be dependent on a man? What is your view on relationships between men and women? Is man the sky and woman the earth? Freedom of speech is a good thing, but be aware of the time and place. Write your shallow thoughts in a diary or in a KakaoTalk chatroom. Don’t throw salt at someone who’s in an unspeakable amount of pain. You don’t have the right to do that.

Your thread is disgusting.