• i think this kind of rhetoric is rlly sad and toxic. its only "fake concern" bc im not a part of the fandom? i can't wish for the health and safety of female idols at the hands of older male idols i have never been comfortable with? just say you don't care about women and go. like who are you actually defending bc i never wished either jennie or gd ill. the behavior/circumstance is whats making me uncomfortable.


    get over yourselves.

    It really doesn't matter who you're comfortable with or not, you're not the one dating him. What circumstance? You said yourself none of us know what actually happened and how this r/s came to be, so. Saying I "don't care about women" is a bit of a stretch seeing as I am one.

  • don't put words in my mouth, i never said that . and either way no one knows whether that was the case or not. just like you said, WE don't know what happened behind the scenes.

    I never said YOU said those words. I said the way you're describing it makes sounds like that was how it appeared like from your point of view. You compared her relationship to young girls that gets trapped into toxic relationships due to different power dynamics just because of her age difference with gd


    Anyways shes a full grown adult ffs. Not a young teenage girl who is vulnerable

  • Jennie is 25. I repeat, she is 25. A grown ass woman. She doesn't need people that usually shade her to start throwing around fake concern.


    I may not be approving but its not my, or your, relationship. She is more than old enough to make this decision for herself. She's not some needy, helpless woman in need of saving.


  • Your posts are posting judgement throughout lmfao.

  • It's fake concern because you're literally making shit up. You claim you have no ill intention, but then built your own narrative. The only person who needs to get over themselves is you. You are obviously projecting something onto this relationship.

    "i can pass no definitive judgement on male idols like heechul and gd, bc i do not know them or their intentions. they havent done anything illegal, and i am not trying to frame it like they have. but its so concerning when stans completely ignore the same instances that get young girls trapped in toxic relationships with unbalance power dynamics. why are we pretending that these behaviors should be a social norm."



    please point to where i made anything up about gd. what did i project onto their relationship by pointing out that similar instances have caused OTHER women to end up in toxic relationship? are you saying that isnt true? you're all putting words into my mouth.




    Oh, so the problem is bc you are not "comfortable" with GD, a stranger who you never saw irl, never met, he never did something to you, but somehow you are uncomfortable with him and now you are making this thread bc a female idol is dating him.... Ok ..

    And you are not wishing him ill .. ok...

    love the illiteracy




    I never said YOU said those words. I said the way you're describing it makes sounds like that was how it appeared like from your point of view. You compared her relationship to young girls that gets trapped into toxic relationships due to different power dynamics just because of her age difference with gd


    Anyways shes a full grown adult ffs. Not a young teenage girl who is vulnerable



    what i SAID was, girls in similar instances getting into relationships with older men they've known since they were underage have been trapped in toxic, unbalance relationships. which is a fact. i never said that is what is happening to jennie, but that i wish for her safety bc this type of behavior from men like gd is concerning to me. tell me what is so wrong with my view point. pls. bc many of the responses to this thread are upsetting af to me. i just want these ladies to be safe.


    ALL women are vulnerable. just like all children are vulnerable. being vulnerable does not mean you are incapable of making smart and healthy decisions, or that you are inherently weak. it just means that people can and will take advantage of you if they get the chance.

  • You're literally infantilizing women.

    women and children have ALWAYS been under a similar vulnerability classification. do you even know what vulnerable means?



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    do enlighten me on what about this definition insinuates women need to be treated as children just bc they are classified as vulnerable. women are the overwhelming majority of domestic violence victims. the overwhelming majority of sex crimes victims. the overwhelming majority victims of sex trafficking. tell me that saying women are vulnerable is incorrect.

  • Will there ever be a time where Kpop stans show basic decency and not drag the departed into completely irrelevant shit?

    Protect Sulli from what?

    Choiza?


    Sulli, her colleagues, her friends and even her own mother have defended Choiza and the relationship they had. Nobody has ever even hinted at him mistreating her, stop projecting just because of their age gap. Ffs she dated somebody even older than him after they broke up. She just liked older guys.


    Leave her alone.


    Leave Jennie alone too. She's had enough of people telling her who she is and how she's supposed to be.

  • i could say the same about half the threads you make on this site, luv. i made this thread bc i felt compelled to speak about this. i don't care whether you think i made a point or not. that in itself proves my point anyway.

    Say it, Come on, Don't be shy. I ain't afraid.


    I already you for exposed for not being able to take an opinion in previous forum. So sad, you couldn't respond to it. Maybe you were too embarrassed to respond.

    No Filter.

  • Say it, Come on, Don't be shy. I ain't afraid.


    I already you for exposed for not being able to take an opinion in previous forum. So sad, you couldn't respond to it. Maybe you were too embarrassed to respond.

    just.. what? i have no idea what you're even talking about but keep trying to come at me sideways with non related, personal attacks. i don't understand how having a different opinion as someone else is "not being able to take an opinion", nor do i understand how refusing to respond to nonsense is "being embarassed to respond". your toxicity jumped out. again, i don't even know what exactly you're referring to but if im that impactful that shit im up to remains more vivid in your mind than it does in my own, guess i won.

  • just.. what? i have no idea what you're even talking about but keep trying to come at me sideways with non related, personal attacks. i don't understand how having a different opinion as someone else is "not being able to take an opinion", nor do i understand how refusing to respond to nonsense is "being embarassed to respond". your toxicity jumped out. again, i don't even know what exactly you're referring to but if im that impactful that shit im up to remains more vivid in your mind than it does in my own, guess i won.

    Not even a personal attack.


    You made multiple threads on stupid topics especially on Treasure (I remember), Said something about ITZY, and whatnot.



    You had me, probably, ignored that's why you don't know.



    Let me give a heads up:-


    https://www.allkpop.com/forum/…or-baekhyun.520473/page-2



    Look at your post, Unprovoked, Completely STUPID comment.


    Anyway, back to the topi,


    Oh wait----


    There isn't one.



    Anyway, Sorry for derailing your thread.

  • word of advice. grow up


  • yeah, we're rlly going to pretend like sulli's relationship with choiza didn't completely rob her of her career and cause in part a lot of the hate she recieved back then. and like he didn't write a sexually explicit, demeaning song about her. the fact that she has passed does not erase the things that happened and her story is even more important now than ever with the mental health of idols continuously being disregarded. anyway they defended choiza against accusations that he was the cause of her passing, and i agree its very unfair to say he was. i never insinuated he "abused" her or anything like that.


    do you really think me hoping for jennie's heath and safety is "telling her what to do"? or did you make up in your head what i said instead of actually understanding my post?

  • Unbalanced power my butt

    can i honestly ask, is it rlly that hard to understand what was being said here


    "i can pass no definitive judgement on male idols like heechul and gd, bc i do not know them or their intentions. they havent done anything illegal, and i am not trying to frame it like they have. but its so concerning when stans completely ignore the same instances that get young girls trapped in toxic relationships with unbalance power dynamics."


    this part of the paragraph was not about jennie and gd. im saying that similar circumstances have caused OTHER women to be trapped in toxic relationships with unbalanced power dynamics. seems like this went over many people's heads so please let me know honestly if this is badly worded.




    but also, do you rlly think gd being her sunbae of 10 years (having debuted 10 years before her), in korea, a country where age and seniority is culturally very important could not lead to an "unbalance power dynamic"? js

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