Given China and Korea’s tension, do you think companies should stop accepting Chinese trainees?

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Impossible. Practically anything can potentially be "hurting the feelings of the PRC".

Exactly which is another reason amongst a million others that our country needs to stop any association with China we have already proved many times we don't need Chinese. BTS ATEEZ BtoB monsta x stray kids all top groups all pure Koreans. These agencies just see that dirty Chinese money and simp for it its pathetic.

China has far surpassed Japan in the hate department here in Korea to the point that even today's younger generations are becoming more intolerant of Chinese and more right wing nationalist because of them. This for you Americans would be like everyone you know becoming Trump supporters overnight because of some known outside threat that is convincing everyone, as you watch the majority slowly convert to that mindset.

There's many reasons the landscape is nearing the levels we have had with north Korea which means diplomatic ties are getting dangerously close to hostility and war being the second best alternative a thing most do not want but will do if it came down to it

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I mean, personally, if I was in charge of a company in Korea, I wouldn't use C-idols. It's better to use Japanese or SEA idols. In fact, they should use more SEA. Hiring Chinese idols would just be an unnecessary risk. If I did take such a risk, the idol would have to be damn exceptional or be from Taiwan or Hongkong.

edit: Or, another option could also be including it in their contract to refrain from certain activities that could cause political controversy.

The best comment I read here! Thank you!

I really don't care about the nationality of kpop idols

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Exactly which is another reason amongst a million others that our country needs to stop any association with China we have already proved many times we don't need Chinese. BTS ATEEZ BtoB monsta x stray kids all top groups all pure Koreans. These agencies just see that dirty Chinese money and simp for it its pathetic.

China has far surpassed Japan in the hate department here in Korea to the point that even today's younger generations are becoming more intolerant of Chinese and more right wing nationalist because of them. This for you Americans would be like everyone you know becoming Trump supporters overnight because of some known outside threat that is convincing everyone, as you watch the majority slowly convert to that mindset.

There's many reasons the landscape is nearing the levels we have had with north Korea which means diplomatic ties are getting dangerously close to hostility and war being the second best alternative a thing most do not want but will do if it came down to it

BTS is a top group but none of the other boy groups u mentioned is?? also twice and blackpink have Non Korean members

The only time kpop needed China was when Korea send t-ara into exile. As long as Korea doesn't treat the idols like they did to t-ara, there is no need to appease China.

With China become more and more aggressive, force their politics onto everyone. I definetly could understand if kpop companies would stop recruiting Chinese trainees. There is simply no need for that additional drama.

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BTS is a top group but none of the other boy groups u mentioned is?? also twice and blackpink have Non Korean members

Failed to mention them as I'm not a girl group fan but true we don't need Chinese in our girl groups either

Ah, the normal crop of sinophobes....

Also, the so called "outrage" about the Olympic opening ceremony is classic insane nationalistic claptrap

South Koreans - Hanbok is our national dress and part of our heritage!

Ethnic Koreans who live in China - okay, that is what we will wear as our national dress in a parade of different Ethnic groups who live in China .

South Koreans- HOW DARE THEY! China trying to steal our culture!!!

Funny enough, there were Kazakhs, Mongols, Kyrgyz, and Tajiks in their national costumes, but I don't hear any outrage there.

Xi Jinping will make the decision for them, soon enough. I expect in the near future Chinese citizens will no longer be allowed to travel outside the country without special government permission, which will not likely be granted to young entertainers without a large international following.

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Xi Jinping will make the decision for them, soon enough. I expect in the near future Chinese citizens will no longer be allowed to travel outside the country without special government permission, which will not likely be granted to young entertainers without a large international following.

Don't you just love the internet, where people can make up claims without even the slightest bit of evidence and act as if they are a thing?

You mean like this?

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You mean like this?

What does a baseless and lazy "wumao" claim have to do with your claim?

Feel free to provide any evidence, whatsoever, for your 'travel ban' statement. I don't expect you to actually do it, as there isn't any, but hey, benefit of the doubt.

It's up to them to balance pros and cons

Groups with all korean members are still successful in other countries including Japan or China.

They must have their reason to include foreign members.

Why not? China banned kpop years ago and South Koreans can’t participate in their music industry so what’s the problem if Korea does the same? There isn’t much money to be made there as it was years ago due to the ccp. I say cut the ties.

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I mean, personally, if I was in charge of a company in Korea, I wouldn't use C-idols. It's better to use Japanese or SEA idols. In fact, they should use more SEA. Hiring Chinese idols would just be an unnecessary risk. If I did take such a risk, the idol would have to be damn exceptional or be from Taiwan or Hongkong.

edit: Or, another option could also be including it in their contract to refrain from certain activities that could cause political controversy.

Japanese kpop idols are becoming more talented and bringing more to the table then their Chinese counterparts. All Chinese idols bring now is drama and visuals lmao Even idols from HK and Taiwan are a risk as Jackson, Elkie, and Guanlin have praised the ccp and started careers in the mainland. I don’t know why kpoppies think Koreans need to be ass kissing the Chinese when there is no reason to do that in this day and age lmao Korean music industry isn’t earning enough yuan now for the Chinese to still be active. Karina bar with 47k albums paid for is the biggest for 4th gen. That’s nothing compared to their entire sales

There's a lot of Chinese money pouring into Kpop companies behind the scene. Even if Kpop companies not debuting Chinese members in Kpop groups, they can still accept Chinese trainees and then later have them debut in China. Korean public sentiments are not worth their dollars or won. Look at all the controversial figures like McMong, Bigbang, and the latest drama Snowdrop. They can get really angry but it doesn't translate to much money-wise. The people who are easily anger and emotional will go online and acting like the world is ending, but they are the loud minority. The majority of people don't get swept up into controversies and still go on living their own life. At the end of the day, their job stability and their family livelihood and economic worth more than gold medals.

Tension come and go. Korea still trading a lot with China in a lot of industries. Korea is heavily dependent on exports. Feelings don't pay the bills.

some of the biggest k-ent companies are flooded with Chinese investment money (cj/mnet, etc) so until the industry as a whole are ready to let go of all Chinese money there will inevitably continue to be Chinese idols.

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Japanese kpop idols are becoming more talented and bringing more to the table then their Chinese counterparts. All Chinese idols bring now is drama and visuals lmao Even idols from HK and Taiwan are a risk as Jackson, Elkie, and Guanlin have praised the ccp and started careers in the mainland. I don’t know why kpoppies think Koreans need to be ass kissing the Chinese when there is no reason to do that in this day and age lmao Korean music industry isn’t earning enough yuan now for the Chinese to still be active. Karina bar with 47k albums paid for is the biggest for 4th gen. That’s nothing compared to their entire sales

I dont wanna post. You know Yuqi is one of the best vocal out of Gidle right? Suprise you pfp is aespa. You know NingNing is the best singer from aespa right? Have you seen any Japanese idol recently talented wise and prominent role wise is as important as Yuqi and NingNing?

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I dont wanna post. You know Yuqi is one of the best vocal out of Gidle right? Suprise you pfp is aespa. You know NingNing is the best singer from aespa right? Have you seen any Japanese idol recently talented wise and prominent role wise is as important as Yuqi and NingNing?

The Japanese are currently excelling as skilled dancers and rappers and there are more of them contributing to the group according to the roles they were given than Chinese kpop idols lmao There are barely any main vocalists who are Chinese in kpop to begin with who have been recognized by Koreans or out singing the Korean main vocalists. Knetz are showing positive reactions to niki, shotaro, hikaru, koki, mashiro, gisselle, rei, and more. Kpop isn’t even vocal driven anymore so their contribution would technically mean more than the role of a main vocalist. How is there even a comparison at this point? Chinese kpop idols are being outnumbered by the Japanese for obvious reasons when it was the other way around before all of this mess.

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The Japanese are currently excelling as skilled dancers and rappers and there are more of them contributing to the group according to the roles they were given than Chinese kpop idols lmao There are barely any main vocalists who are Chinese in kpop to begin with. Knetz are showing positive reactions to niki, shotaro, hikaru, koki, mashiro, gisselle, rei, and more. Kpop isn’t even vocal driven anymore so their contribution would technically mean more than the role of a main vocalist. How is there even a comparison at this point? Chinese kpop idols are being outnumbered by the Japanese for obvious reasons when it was the other way around before all of this mess.

And the obvious reasons is money money money. Japanese and Chinese idols are all talented in various degrees and brought something to the table. Obviously there are outstanding talents, in the midst of mediocre one. The reason why any of them were added were not their talent in the first place. You said it yourself so why acting like it's a priority.